Should we allow the weird porn threads (IE: "What turns you on" type threads with furry/vore/beastia

[Invadernouga]

[QUOTE=hexpunK;46257585]and a lot of people who voted no have said they'd prefer if it covered avatars too, but this is a nice stopgap to bringing FP back to something resembling its "glory".

again, what does the ability to post pictures of animals fucking lolis or whatever actually bring to the forum? it's explicit content, which we aren't able to post any other form of any where else at all, not even in threads for it as they get shut the fuck down. why are your cartoon porns someone special?

[editline]17th October 2014[/editline]

it really was though. we've gathered a fucking ton of awful posters who just aren't banned any more. the strict moderation made people actually try to not be fucking mongs.[/QUOTE]

This last part so much.

[Wootman]

I don't understand why suggestive avatars aren't banned. I really love browsing Facepunch when there are people in the room only for a weird drawn shirtless fox drawn in a suggestive pose to be right next to a quite shitty post.

[Radio Flyer]

[QUOTE=Mister Sandman;46257566]OK, but guess what, [I]this thread decides neither of those things.[/I]
You wanna talk about NSFW avatars, that's fine, talk about it some other time. Besides being under the porn umbrella, it has nothing to do with the thread.[/QUOTE]
Then people need to stop bringing up banning all nsfw content
Because it brings avatars into it then we go in this huge circle AGAIN

[carcarcargo]

[QUOTE=Wootman;46257600]I don't understand why suggestive avatars aren't banned. I really love browsing Facepunch when there are people in the room only for a weird drawn shirtless fox drawn in a suggestive pose to be right next to a quite shitty post.[/QUOTE]

I've had to explain to people in the past that they're just avatars of other people and had nothing to do with me when other people were in the room, it's kind of embarrassing.

[Mister Sandman]

[QUOTE=Radio Flyer;46257570]Okay.

Because every section a pretty much a hobby or lifestyle, either that or games and news which everyone can benefit from, porn falls under none of these and therefore has no place here as a section.[/QUOTE]
Just because every section can be, sometimes [I]very[/I] loosely defined as a hobby, doesn't make it the rule. Garry could start a section for taking a dump right now.
Maybe it's less 'hobbies' and more 'people want to talk about this enough that it deserves it's own section.'

[QUOTE=hexpunK;46257585]and a lot of people who voted no have said they'd prefer if it covered avatars too, but this is a nice stopgap to bringing FP back to something resembling its "glory".

again, what does the ability to post pictures of animals fucking lolis or whatever actually bring to the forum? it's explicit content, which we aren't able to post any other form of any where else at all, not even in threads for it as they get shut the fuck down. why are your cartoon porns someone special?[/QUOTE]
Don't bring up 'animals fucking lolis', nobody wants that here. Anyway, as for what it brings to the forum, I don't know, what does Deviantart Appreciation Station bring to the forum?
It brings up stuff here that people like to see and like to talk about. That not enough for some reason?

[Wootman]

[QUOTE=carcarcargo;46257613]I've had to explain to people in the past that they're just avatars of other people and had nothing to do with me when other people were in the room, it's kind of embarrassing.[/QUOTE]

A long time ago I had my mom yell at me for some shitty avatar some user had.

[LondierX]

[QUOTE=Radio Flyer;46257609]Then people need to stop bringing up banning all nsfw content
Because it brings avatars into it then we go in this huge circle AGAIN[/QUOTE]
Banning all NSFW content would also prevent this shit from happening again.

[ROFLBURGER]

seriously? 53%?

Like I expected like a 65% for NO

[Radio Flyer]

[QUOTE=Mister Sandman;46257615]Just because every section can be, sometimes [I]very[/I] loosely defined as a hobby, doesn't make it the rule. Garry could start a section for taking a dump right now.
Maybe it's less 'hobbies' and more 'people want to talk about this enough that it deserves it's own section.'

Don't bring up 'animals fucking lolis', nobody wants that here. Anyway, as for what it brings to the forum, I don't know, what does Deviantart Appreciation Station bring to the forum?
It brings up stuff here that people like to see and like to talk about. That not enough for some reason?[/QUOTE]

Because the porn section would literally be the busiest part of facepunch. Flooded with guests

[editline]17th October 2014[/editline]

[QUOTE=LondierX;46257630]Banning all NSFW content would also prevent this shit from happening again.[/QUOTE]

And thats how the circle starts up again :v:

[LondierX]

Unless the poll changes with voided/changed votes, I'm sure that poll is inaccurate, and is mostly voting no.

[DokVis]

[QUOTE=carcarcargo;46257613]I've had to explain to people in the past that they're just avatars of other people and had nothing to do with me when other people were in the room, it's kind of embarrassing.[/QUOTE]

I do agree with removing lewd avatars, as that IS forcing people to see your fetishs, but, threads no, you don't need to look at those threads.

Also, about FPs rep, you know a bunch of people I know who don't post here, that know about FP, think we have a bunch of nazi mods that ban for the fun of it, without reasons, etc. That already scares people away and makes us look bad. How would porn threads being added to that even make a difference?

[Mister Sandman]

[QUOTE=Radio Flyer;46257633]Because the porn section would literally be the busiest part of facepunch. Flooded with guests[/QUOTE]
So don't let guests view the section? We do that with Fast Threads. Hell, I know we can hide sections visually, from what I recall the GMF used to be hidden from view of non-gold members.

[Radio Flyer]

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[Hotline]

[QUOTE=Mister Sandman;46257615]Just because every section can be, sometimes [I]very[/I] loosely defined as a hobby, doesn't make it the rule. Garry could start a section for taking a dump right now.
Maybe it's less 'hobbies' and more 'people want to talk about this enough that it deserves it's own section.'[/QUOTE]

that still doesn't get rid of the fact that there would be an [b]entire section of the forums dedicated to discussing porn[/b].

i mean jfc is it really that hard to just go onto one of the other hundreds of websites you could go to to talk about your porn

[Radio Flyer]

[QUOTE=Mister Sandman;46257665]So don't let guests view the section? We do that with Fast Threads. Hell, I know we can hide sections visually, from what I recall the GMF used to be hidden from view of non-gold members.[/QUOTE]

Yeah this is true, my bad.

[hexpunK]

[QUOTE=Mister Sandman;46257615]Just because every section can be, sometimes [I]very[/I] loosely defined as a hobby, doesn't make it the rule. Garry could start a section for taking a dump right now.
Maybe it's less 'hobbies' and more 'people want to talk about this enough that it deserves it's own section.'

Don't bring up 'animals fucking lolis', nobody wants that here. Anyway, as for what it brings to the forum, I don't know, what does Deviantart Appreciation Station bring to the forum?
It brings up stuff here that people like to see and like to talk about. That not enough for some reason?[/QUOTE]

Never said I was fond of DAAS either. I'd be happy to see all of fast threads just burn if I'm honest, every thread on the front page in there is just the worst thing on the forum (yes I know DAAS isn't in there, but whatever).

Again, what does the ability to post fucked up shit in a form of "see how fucking WEIRD I am you guys????" actually bring to the forum other than tell people "you're totally not a fucking weirdo who is in denial about it". What can you even discuss about weird shit other than "no that doesn't make me hard" or "yes that makes me hard"?

And I will be ramming that "explicit content" thing till the cows come home because it's pretty fucking important. We don't have threads dedicated to pictures of cows blowing up or whatever, it's explicit content. As is porn. Why do we have porn threads? Facepunch has multiple kid-friendly game prototypes in the works, so there is a high chance more younger people will be registering soon, as much as I dislike the "think of the children" thing, it's a pretty important point too.

[Hinterlight]

[QUOTE=Intoxicated Spy;46257655]I do agree with removing lewd avatars, as that IS forcing people to see your fetishs, but, threads no, you don't need to look at those threads.

Also, about FPs rep, you know a bunch of people I know who don't post here, that know about FP, think we have a bunch of nazi mods that ban for the fun of it, without reasons, etc. That already scares people away and makes us look bad. How would porn threads being added to that even make a difference?[/QUOTE]

Because with the porn threads the forum will be known as a place that has a bunch of Nazi mods that also harbors people that have extremely socially unacceptable sexual fetishes?

[Mister Sandman]

[QUOTE=TheWhiteFox1;46257670]that still doesn't get rid of the fact that there would be an [b]entire section of the forums dedicated to discussing porn[/b].

i mean jfc is it really that hard to just go onto one of the other hundreds of websites you could go to to talk about your porn[/QUOTE]

Yes, that would mean there would be an entire section of the forums dedicated to discussing porn. Oh no.

and i mean jfc is it really that hard to just not click the thread

[LondierX]

[QUOTE=TheWhiteFox1;46257670]i mean jfc is it really that hard to just go onto one of the other hundreds of websites you could go to to talk about your porn[/QUOTE]

Paraphrased:
"The facepunch community is more stricter on the content posted on porn threads.
We don't want to have to deal with "lolrandom idiots."
"

I think they had more arguments, but that's all I can remember.

[Wootman]

I don't get why you guys are so defensive about porn jesus, if you really want to discuss that bad with your fellow Facepuncher make a Steam group god damn.

[Tools]

[QUOTE=ROFLBURGER;46257631]seriously? 53%?

Like I expected like a 65% for NO[/QUOTE]

It's messy as fuck tho'.

I voted yes because I don't want FPS to be as strict as a religious forums, I want the freedom to post explicit stuff.
That doesn't mean I want the weird stuff staying around, but as long as it's drawn I don't care.

[DokVis]

[QUOTE=Hinterlight;46257693]Because with the porn threads the forum will be known as a place that has a bunch of Nazi mods that also harbors people that have extremely socially unacceptable sexual fetishes?[/QUOTE]

And so? Do you really give a fuck what reddit/4chan/whoever else thinks of us? at all? Really.

[Wootman]

[QUOTE=Intoxicated Spy;46257707]And so? Do you really give a fuck what reddit/[B]4chan[/B]/whoever else thinks of us? at all? Really.[/QUOTE]

[img]http://facepunch.com/image.php?u=242836&dateline=1409521777[/img]

[carcarcargo]

[QUOTE=Intoxicated Spy;46257655]I do agree with removing lewd avatars, as that IS forcing people to see your fetishs, but, threads no, you don't need to look at those threads.

Also, about FPs rep, you know a bunch of people I know who don't post here, that know about FP, think we have a bunch of nazi mods that ban for the fun of it, without reasons, etc. That already scares people away and makes us look bad. How would porn threads being added to that even make a difference?[/QUOTE]
I don't think most people would be bothered if they banned porn thread tbh. If any of the people I know knew who don't like FP knew about the porn threads they'd be even more convinced that it's full of weirdos than they already are.

[DokVis]

[QUOTE=Wootman;46257704]I don't get why you guys are so defensive about porn jesus, if you really want to discuss that bad with your fellow Facepuncher make a Steam group god damn.[/QUOTE]

Its because when majority doesn't like something on FP, even if it doesn't effect them, they want it gone. Look at MLP threads. Oh wait, you can't since majority don't like it.

[Mister Sandman]

[QUOTE=Intoxicated Spy;46257707]And so? Do you really give a fuck what reddit/4chan/whoever else thinks of us? at all? Really.[/QUOTE]

From what I understand, the Facepunch reputation is either 'left leaning hivemind full of elitist cunts' [I]or[/I] 'shittier Something Awful'
clearly, we must protect this shining rep

[LondierX]

[QUOTE=hexpunK;46257692]
Again, what does the ability to post fucked up shit in a form of "see how fucking WEIRD I am you guys????" actually bring to the forum other than tell people "you're totally not a fucking weirdo who is in denial about it". What can you even discuss about weird shit other than "no that doesn't make me hard" or "yes that makes me hard"[/QUOTE]
People find it interesting to explore the psychological implications of those fetishes, and discussing said psychological effects or how their psychology could lead to that fetish.

[DokVis]

[QUOTE=Wootman;46257715][img]http://facepunch.com/image.php?u=242836&dateline=1409521777[/img][/QUOTE]

Okay? So I have an avatar that shows my support to GamerGate.

[Wootman]

[QUOTE=Intoxicated Spy;46257722]Its because when majority doesn't like something on FP, even if it doesn't effect them, they want it gone. Look at MLP threads. Oh wait, you can't since majority don't like it.[/QUOTE]

So what, go somewhere else once your weird shit gets laughed off of FP.

[Wootman]

[QUOTE=LondierX;46257730]People find it interesting to explore the psychological implications of those fetishes, and discussing said psychological effects or how their psychology could lead to that fetish.[/QUOTE]

Jesus