Should we allow the weird porn threads (IE: "What turns you on" type threads with furry/vore/beastia

[LondierX]

[QUOTE=CheeseMan;46258004][B]The arguments for keeping this thread all involve sacrifices from the rest of the community for the benefit of a few people who want to retain their fetish porn[/B]

That's basically the root of the problem here. [I]"Nobody wants to moderate it"[/I]? [B]Just get a new mod![/B] [I]"Kids will see it"[/I]? [B]Ban the kids![/B] [I]"Illegal content has been posted in at least one iteration of the thread"[/I]? [B]That's the lawyers' problem, not ours![/B][/QUOTE]
I know. I'm not saying heir arguments are good, I was simply stating that some of the arguments from your side are extremely biased or misleading.

[editline]17th October 2014[/editline]

[QUOTE=ilikecorn;46258013]What con exists for getting rid of NSFW content? Other than the fact that you couldn't post it? How is keeping NSFW content contributing to the site at all?[/QUOTE]

I'm referring to the cons of keeping thread on.

[CheeseMan]

[QUOTE=Mister Sandman;46258009]It's a little more than a few people when the difference between people who want it and don't want it is less than 10 percent.[/QUOTE]

A lot of the yes votes have been joke posts - look at gerbe1 - or mistakes. Lots of people haven't read this thread and then rescinded their yes votes, as can be seen in the OP. Additionally, a lot of people don't give a shit either way.

[ROFLBURGER]

[QUOTE=LondierX;46258022]I'm referring to the cons of keeping thread on.[/QUOTE]

because it brings in a new audience

look at my thread that I made years ago. Most of the content there isn't as fetishy as it is today in the what turns you on the most. Where did all the fetishy users come from?

[Bastet]

Why do people care what goes on in the porn threads?

[Doom64hunter]

[QUOTE=Mister Sandman;46257566]OK, but guess what, [I]this thread decides neither of those things.[/I]
You wanna talk about NSFW avatars, that's fine, talk about it some other time. Besides being under the porn umbrella, it has nothing to do with the thread.[/QUOTE]

Yes it does
NSFW Avatars should be banned like all the other porn shit.

And by the way, this is literally the only forum for games that allows this kind of shit.
ZDoom, Seriously forums, Duke4, etc all have off-topic sections and are riddled with memes.
But they don't post porn there, and you wanna know why? Because it's really fucking creepy and weird to have it allowed!

[CheeseMan]

[QUOTE=Solomon;46258039]Why do people care what goes on in the porn threads?[/QUOTE]

gee i dunno maybe read the fuckin thread

[Mister Sandman]

[QUOTE=carcarcargo;46258015]But that's just ridiculous amounts of effort that garry or whoever the fuck manages the site these days has to put in just for porn.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, it's going to take effort. A 'Yes' answer is gonna take some amount of effort if we're going to change something (And I think we should)
a new section, a few clicks to make it only accessible to people who meet a certain criteria and a new moderator to watch over it aren't back breaking though

[carcarcargo]

[QUOTE=Mister Sandman;46258044]Yeah, it's going to take effort. A 'Yes' answer is gonna take some amount of effort if we're going to change something (And I think we should)
a new section, a few clicks to make it only accessible to people who meet a certain criteria and a new moderator to watch over it aren't back breaking though[/QUOTE]

Why do you think they're going to build an entirely new section and recruit moderators just for porn? They're not going to do that

[gerbe1]

[QUOTE=CheeseMan;46258034]A lot of the yes votes have been joke posts - look at gerbe1 - or mistakes. Lots of people haven't read this thread and then rescinded their yes votes, as can be seen in the OP. Additionally, a lot of people don't give a shit either way.[/QUOTE]

That wouldn't be a joke vote. I think I can justify a legitimate vote either way.

[Duckmaster]

[QUOTE=Mister Sandman;46258044]Yeah, it's going to take effort. A 'Yes' answer is gonna take some amount of effort if we're going to change something (And I think we should)
a new section, a few clicks to make it only accessible to people who meet a certain criteria and a new moderator to watch over it aren't back breaking though[/QUOTE]

So you basically want the rest of the forum bend over and cater to your selfish needs.

[CheeseMan]

[QUOTE=Mister Sandman;46258044]Yeah, it's going to take effort. A 'Yes' answer is gonna take some amount of effort if we're going to change something (And I think we should)
a new section, a few clicks to make it only accessible to people who meet a certain criteria and a new moderator to watch over it aren't back breaking though[/QUOTE]

"A few clicks"

Coding for FP isn't that easy. Remember Compwhizii's redesign? That took months or something. Stop demanding that people accommodate your single porn thread with literal back-end code just so it can exist in the face of massive cons.

[CheeseMan]

If you don't think your last five posts have literally been you demanding the forum fit to a single thread then I dunno what to say.

[LondierX]

[QUOTE=Doom64hunter;46258040]Yes it does
NSFW Avatars should be banned like all the other porn shit.

And by the way, this is literally the only forum for games that allows this kind of shit.
ZDoom, Seriously forums, Duke4, etc all have off-topic sections and are riddled with memes.
But they don't post porn there, and you wanna know why? Because it's really fucking creepy and weird to have it allowed![/QUOTE]

It was stated in the OP that this doesn't involve, nor does it affect (borderline) NSFW avatars. Only the people's reasoning to vote was affected by those.

[Spookly]

[QUOTE=CheeseMan;46258052]"A few clicks"

Coding for FP isn't that easy. Remember Compwhizii's redesign? That took months or something. Stop demanding that people accommodate your single porn thread with literal back-end code just so it can exist in the face of massive cons.[/QUOTE]

if compwhizii thought they were making a section for furries he'd have the whole redesign done in 5 minutes

[Mister Sandman]

[QUOTE=carcarcargo;46258048]Why do you think they're going to build an entirely new section and recruit moderators just for porn?[/QUOTE]
'Cause fuck it, I don't know, better to meet halfway when it's split this much, and also because roughly 40-50 percent of FP wants that is going to throw a big fat hissy fit if they don't

[Bastet]

[QUOTE=CheeseMan;46258041]gee i dunno maybe read the fuckin thread[/QUOTE]

why

[FoxMeister]

i'm pretty sure garry doesnt care about how wholesome facepunch is and is fine with porn in fast threads but the WTYO thread and threads like it still need to be banned. it's the only porn thread that causes constant problems and it's never going to stop because the bar of what is acceptable is set by the individual poster and it's impossible to moderate that.

[Siminov]

For the record I'd like to change my answer from yes to no.

If as long as the wtyo thread is the only one affected, then ok. But since this does not affect the other threads then i'll change to no.

I never go in the wtyo thread anyways...

[FetusFondler]

[QUOTE=InvaderNouga;46255867]You just don't get it. I'm not a DOGFUCKER I just fantasize about having sex with anthropomorphic human dog hybrids. Totally different. Fuckin normies.[/QUOTE]

Thank you for providing a perfect example of a post not to make

[carcarcargo]

[QUOTE=Mister Sandman;46258058]'Cause fuck it, I don't know, better to meet halfway when it's split this much, and also because roughly 40-50 percent of FP wants that is going to throw a big fat hissy fit if they don't[/QUOTE]

Why wouldn't they just ban the threads and save their time?

[LondierX]

[QUOTE=Mister Sandman;46258058]'Cause fuck it, I don't know, better to meet halfway when it's split this much, and also because roughly 40-50 percent of FP wants that is going to throw a big fat hissy fit if they don't[/QUOTE]

Said hissy fit would last only a few days, then people would forget it, and move on.

[Bastet]

I don't get why this vote is needed

[Mister Sandman]

[QUOTE=carcarcargo;46258070]Why wouldn't they just ban the threads and save their time?[/QUOTE]

I don't know. It's up to them.

To clarify, I actually don't really give [I]that[/I] much of a fuck about the thread and my world's not over one way or the other, I got in on this because people were being shitlords and it bothered me.
I'm compromise minded, but ultimately I acknowledge that it is just up to the mods (and Garry) to decide a no, a yes, or some middle road.
[QUOTE=ilikecorn;46258083]As has been said in the past. FP isn't a democracy. You can get butthurt all you want but if the mods say "hey we're fucking tired of trying to moderate porn threads, let's get rid of them", then that's what's going to happen and if you don't like it then you can leave. Plain and simple.[/QUOTE]
That goes both ways. This has [I]already[/I] been discussed once and the answer was "It's staying", and yet here we are bitching about it again.

[IlluminatiRex]

[QUOTE=Solomon;46258086]I don't get why this vote is needed[/QUOTE]
To judge how outraged the forum is going to be based upon whatever decision that Garry/Mod Staff have already decided.

[carcarcargo]

[QUOTE=Mister Sandman;46258092]I don't know. It's up to them.

To clarify, I actually don't really give [I]that[/I] much of a fuck about the thread and my world's not over one way or the other, I got in on this because people were being shitlords and it bothered me.
I'm compromise minded, but ultimately I acknowledge that it is just up to the mods (and Garry) to decide a no, a yes, or some middle road.[/QUOTE]

If they ban them the worst that will happen is a few moderator inboxes will get spammed until shit dies down. I don't think anyone can be bothered to build an entire section, it's not worth the hassle at all.

[Bastet]

Why can't it just continue puttering along in its own way. Keeps the weirdos contained to one thread.

[CheeseMan]

[QUOTE=Mister Sandman;46258092]I don't know. It's up to them.

To clarify, I actually don't really give [I]that[/I] much of a fuck about the thread and my world's not over one way or the other, I got in on this because people were being shitlords and it bothered me.
I'm compromise minded, but ultimately I acknowledge that it is just up to the mods (and Garry) to decide a no, a yes, or some middle road.[/QUOTE]

The thread has existed 6 times and 6 times it's failed or been a massive hassle. There's no room for compromise anymore, dude; it's already been banned twice, which makes it really fucking surprising that there's even a poll about it now. This is basically its final chance.

[LondierX]

[QUOTE=ilikecorn;46258072]If we can get porn banned then we can get peoples fucking idiotic suggestive avatars banned. You can't justify banning someones slightly racy "fox in positions" avatar if you literally allow people to post that same fox getting buttfucked by a horse in other threads.[/QUOTE]

It can be justified: The avatar is something a large majority of the forum sees, and therefore should be more SFW, while the porn is posted in a NSFW thread.

[abcpea]

[QUOTE=ROFLBURGER;46258006]imo thats dangerous for them if a kid sees literally anything with a vagina or tits he will be turned on and think "boy i must be a brony/furry/weaboo/whatever" and have older users encourage them to hang around[/QUOTE]

exactly, they are only just starting to develop a sexuality and are extremely impressionable. thats the difference between this and gore, etc, which they should already have a fundamental understanding of

[Mister Sandman]

[QUOTE=CheeseMan;46258106]The thread has existed 6 times and 6 times it's failed or been a massive hassle. There's no room for compromise anymore, dude; it's already been banned twice, which makes it really fucking surprising that there's even a poll about it now. This is basically its final chance.[/QUOTE]
Well, we'll see then.