Should we allow the weird porn threads (IE: "What turns you on" type threads with furry/vore/beastia

[gerbe1]

[QUOTE=gerbe1;46283177]If you assume that the poll has no bias and that the active population of facepunch (I'm saying post every day) have little difference to the inactive population of facepunch (the other 20000 or so users) then actually these people aren't completely wrong. The sample we have now is more than statistically significant. 46% of users want the threads.

Obviously they're big assumptions but I don't think the margin of error will be more than 6% so at least 40% of Facepunch I can say with relative certainty want or do not mind the threads existence. I think the number would be lower if they'd been reading this thread though, but that isn't how votes work, large portions of voters are usually uneducated and it would be a gargantuan task to make them all fully informed. So yes. Almost half of Facepunch do not mind the threads existing given their level of knowledge.

You need about 1800 people to vote on a population of 26000 to get within 3%.

If you're not convinced, all you had to do is look at the percentages from votes on the poll. Since 16 hours of the poll opening the results have been sitting at between 45-47 : 55-53 per cent yes to no. That's exactly within the margin of error. This is at a 99% confidence interval yada yada. I think the gap has slowly been widening so the result will be more like 44% to 56% and then considering null and changed votes maybe down to 43% to 57%

I don't think the final number will be below 40% in favour.

[editline]20th October 2014[/editline]

Even if you forced every Facepunch member to vote, that is, I don't think it would be below 40%[/QUOTE]

I want to emphasise that my point is: whilst yes they are a little bad at maths calling 2/5ths 50%, you are also bad at maths thinking that the voters are not representative of Facepunch's population.

[BenJammin']

oh shit I am glad I am not the only one who hates all the faggot cropped porn shit.

For a while I was starting to think FP was finally dying.

Now to purge all the anime avatars. (just kidding). [sp]not really tho, not just kidding[/sp]

Wait no purge furry avatars first. Lesser evil comes second.

[Hervey]

[QUOTE=BenJammin';46283642]oh shit I am glad I am not the only one who hates all the faggot cropped porn shit.

For a while I was starting to think FP was finally dying.

Now to purge all the anime avatars. (just kidding). [sp]not really tho, not just kidding[/sp]

Wait no purge furry avatars first. Lesser evil comes second.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Craptasket;46243448]About Avatars: Lewd drawn/anime avatars are never going to be banned, get over it. - Of course NSFW/Real Nudity/showing of genitalia both real or drawn get banned. Commonsense.[/QUOTE]

[NightWig]

[QUOTE=BenJammin';46283642]Now to purge all the anime avatars. (just kidding). [sp]not really tho, not just kidding[/sp][/QUOTE]

"Waaah, ban things I don't like [img]http://fi.somethingawful.com/images/smilies/emot-crying.gif[/img]"

[wauterboi]

Furry itself isn't bad. Furry pornography is bad.

Furries aren't bad. Annoying furries are bad.

My Little Pony isn't bad. My Little Pony porngraphy is bad.

Bronies themselves aren't bad. Annoying bronies are bad.

Anime isn't bad. Hentai is bad.

Fans of anime themselves aren't bad. Annoying fans of anime are bad.

[Lollipoopdeck]

Can I change my vote to No.

Its just not worth all this hassle tbh, Its an ok place but eh, I can live without it.

[RustledJimmys]

People saying it should be text only, that's a bad idea.

"Well I like to spank the monkey to loli girls."

And with that it's over already. That and talking about it seems just as weird.

[Silent Bang]

The threads are ok. But I hate it when I only see shark dick

[Rixxz2]

[QUOTE=Tomo Takino;46283222]I wouldn't mind text threads popping up. There have been a few of those over the years and they were quite enjoyable because I wasn't looking at enormous pictures of pornography that makes me uncomfortable every minute.

It was just a pretty friendly chat about things other people were interested in. But do people saying "porn has no place on FP" think those shouldn't be allowed as well or something? I'll be honest and say I'm not reading most of the posts here as they are just shitposting, but I am curious as to how people vehemently against the porn threads would take text threads on the same subject.[/QUOTE]

Repeating my thoughts yet again:

[quote=EarlierPost]
Realize that whatever it is that you're attracted to, this is not the place to discuss it.* No matter what it is.

*= I see absolutely no problem with having for example a gay, the "Sex & Girlfriends chat thread" and a furry thread, just don't use them as some kind of porn deposit
[/quote]

[editline]20th October 2014[/editline]

[QUOTE=RustledJimmys;46284271]People saying it should be text only, that's a bad idea.

"Well I like to spank the monkey to loli girls."
[/QUOTE]

Obviously the discussion of things that are actually illegal shouldn't be allowed

[editline]20th October 2014[/editline]

[QUOTE=wauterboi;46283666]Furry itself isn't bad. Furry pornography is bad.

Furries aren't bad. Annoying furries are bad.

My Little Pony isn't bad. My Little Pony porngraphy is bad.

Bronies themselves aren't bad. Annoying bronies are bad.

Anime isn't bad. Hentai is bad.

Fans of anime themselves aren't bad. Annoying fans of anime are bad.[/QUOTE]

Right on the money

[postal]

[QUOTE=gerbe1;46283237]I want to emphasise that my point is: whilst yes they are a little bad at maths calling 2/5ths 50%, you are also bad at maths thinking that the voters are not representative of Facepunch's population.[/QUOTE]
Uhh I'm aware if we forced everyone to vote we'd see higher numbers but the point is these are the people that actually give a shit about this situation... So yes, only ~3% of fp really really wants creepy porn threads, my point still stands, you can't push the percent to cover all of FP because the majority of people here don't give a fuck. Most just want to talk about VIDEO GAMES and such.

[gerbe1]

[QUOTE=postal;46284859]Uhh I'm aware if we forced everyone to vote we'd see higher numbers but the point is these are the people that actually really true care about this situation... So yes, only ~3% of fp really really wants creepy porn threads, my point still stands, you can't push the percent to cover all of FP because most people here don't give a fuck.[/QUOTE]

They don't give an f either way. So I'm saying that the final ratio if everyone was forced to vote would be roughly the same as it is now and therefore 2/5ths of Facepunch would vote yes.

[postal]

[QUOTE=gerbe1;46284871]They don't give an f either way. So I'm saying that the final ratio if everyone was forced to vote would be roughly the same as it is now and therefore 2/5ths of Facepunch would vote yes.[/QUOTE]
Having actually read this thread I'd say no, there's a lot of people that really do care about wanting to have creepy porn threads here lol. This thread wouldn't be so big otherwise... The point I'm making here is it's silly to drag in the entire FP population when no where near the entire population care about this. Using them to justify making new forum systems is SILLY.

[editline]20th October 2014[/editline]

[QUOTE=Lollipoopdeck;46284025]Can I change my vote to No.

Its just not worth all this hassle tbh, Its an ok place but eh, I can live without it.[/QUOTE]

FIXED

[Creec]

[QUOTE=Rixxz2;46281819]"Hot Guys", "Hot Girls", [B]"Catgirl megathread"[/B], not sure if there are any other ones[/QUOTE]

Again, why are you putting this thread under fire? It's not porn thread anymore (except maybe a couple of questionable posts that could have easily been avoided) after it was almost removed last time.

If i ask really nicely, can Craptasket or someone give a confirmation if Catgirl megathread is under fire this time? So far there have only been assumptions from other posters.

Also Craptasket how do you manage to read through all posts? I think i tried to do so but still ended up skipping like 20-30 pages at some point since discussion(?) wasn't going anywhere.

[Pnukup]

[QUOTE=creec;46285001]Again, why are you putting this thread under fire? It's not porn thread anymore (except maybe a couple of questionable posts that could have easily been avoided) after it was almost removed last time.

If i ask really nicely, can Craptasket or someone give a confirmation if Catgirl megathread is under fire this time? So far there have only been assumptions from other posters.

Also Craptasket how do you manage to read through all posts? I think i tried to do so but still ended up skipping like 20-30 pages at some point since discussion(?) wasn't going anywhere.[/QUOTE]

It doesn't give the forum a good image.

[Big Dumb Patriot]

People think that I am just having a laugh, but I'm as serious as genocide: why keep fast threads at all? While the fate of the subforum may not be the purpose of this thread, there's nowhere else to have a serious discussion about it. Fast Threads offers nothing to the forum. There is not a single thread of substance. Fast Threads may be easy enough to avoid on a personal level, but it's a deep embarrassment to the website as a whole that we let that shit go on.

[codenamecueball]

[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;46285134]People think that I am just having a laugh, but I'm as serious as genocide: why keep fast threads at all? While the fate of the subforum may not be the purpose of this thread, there's nowhere else to have a serious discussion about it. Fast Threads offers nothing to the forum. There is not a single thread of substance. Fast Threads may be easy enough to avoid on a personal level, but it's a deep embarrassment to the website as a whole that we let that shit go on.[/QUOTE]

i guess it keeps all the shite threads from spilling out into gd, but it's still a horror pit

[SinjinOmega]

While I'm not changing my vote from Yes, I won't mind either result. Just as long as if the result is Yes the moderation is a bit stricter (As much as you guys may hate it, it would be the best outcome if that would be the result.)

[Killuah]

[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;46285134]People think that I am just having a laugh, but I'm as serious as genocide: why keep fast threads at all? While the fate of the subforum may not be the purpose of this thread, there's nowhere else to have a serious discussion about it. Fast Threads offers nothing to the forum. There is not a single thread of substance. Fast Threads may be easy enough to avoid on a personal level, but it's a deep embarrassment to the website as a whole that we let that shit go on.[/QUOTE]

We tried that years ago in 08 or something and it resulted in a heap of new threads in other forums, mostly GD.

[gerbe1]

[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;46285134]People think that I am just having a laugh, but I'm as serious as genocide: why keep fast threads at all? While the fate of the subforum may not be the purpose of this thread, there's nowhere else to have a serious discussion about it. Fast Threads offers nothing to the forum. There is not a single thread of substance. Fast Threads may be easy enough to avoid on a personal level, but it's a deep embarrassment to the website as a whole that we let that shit go on.[/QUOTE]

If you're concerned with the website's reputation... I mean really that's a concerning level of patriotism. As long as it's nothing illegal, immoral, disgusting or overly offensive (depending where you draw the line). Let the stupid posts and incoherence reside there. Better that then elsewhere.

[ForNoReason]

It's still light years better than general disruption.

[Zotobom]

[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;46285134]People think that I am just having a laugh, but I'm as serious as genocide: why keep fast threads at all? While the fate of the subforum may not be the purpose of this thread, there's nowhere else to have a serious discussion about it. Fast Threads offers nothing to the forum. There is not a single thread of substance. Fast Threads may be easy enough to avoid on a personal level, but it's a deep embarrassment to the website as a whole that we let that shit go on.[/QUOTE]

There a couple of good threads. STGYM,STGYH,Auxiliary Pics.
LMAO Pics is good to have as well,otherwise there'd be way too many seperate threads.

[Big Dumb Patriot]

[QUOTE=For No Reason;46285232]It's still light years better than general disruption.[/QUOTE]

That's like saying that losing a leg is better than dying, though. I mean, yeah, maybe, but I'd rather avoid both.

[Big Dumb Patriot]

[QUOTE=Zotobom;46285266]There a couple of good threads. STGYM,STGYH,Auxiliary Pics.
LMAO Pics is good to have as well,otherwise there'd be way too many seperate threads.[/QUOTE]

I would lose no sleep whatsoever over the death of "Shit that gets you mad" and recycled reddit memes, to be perfectly honest.

[Vasili]

Can't these people find their porn somewhere else? There's many websites to discuss pornography.

[ForNoReason]

[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;46285294]I would lose no sleep whatsoever over the death of "Shit that gets you mad" and recycled reddit memes, to be perfectly honest.[/QUOTE]

"A few people are sick, therefore it must be a plague"

[fruxodaily]

[QUOTE=Fourm Shark;46285278]Fast threads isn't that bad. Really the GMF is a worse place half the time.[/QUOTE]

It's only the "worst place" if you can't behave yourself properly and act like an absolute sperg

[bobsynergy]

[QUOTE=Fourm Shark;46285278]Fast threads isn't that bad. Really the GMF is a worse place half the time.[/QUOTE]

How do you people say this with a straight face? GMF is literally just normal people posting about their lives/having a conversation.

Fast threads is a circle jerk of porn, "would you do x to the above avatar" and like 1 ok thread (unpopular opinions)

[QUOTE=Fourm Shark;46285304]I like you, but please, don't be this dense. Read the threads you care enough to want removed because you clearly do not know them well.[/QUOTE]

shit that gets you mad is users posting the same stuff over and over again, "fuck my dad/life/friends/school etc.." the only good part about that thread is when roflburger posts about games in the middle of people breaking down lol

[Big Dumb Patriot]

[QUOTE=Fourm Shark;46285304]I like you, but please, don't be this dense. Read the threads you care enough to want removed because you clearly do not know them well.[/QUOTE]

Even operating under the assumption that "Shit that gets you mad" really is a substantive thread (and, hell, maybe it is? I don't frequent it), you're attempting to justify the existence of a subforum flooded with shit based on the existence of, at best, a small handful of threads.

[QUOTE=For No Reason;46285310]"A few people are sick, therefore it must be a plague"[/QUOTE]

I feel like you're rebutting to a point that I never tried to make?

[isnipeu]

[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;46285134]People think that I am just having a laugh, but I'm as serious as genocide: why keep fast threads at all? While the fate of the subforum may not be the purpose of this thread, there's nowhere else to have a serious discussion about it. Fast Threads offers nothing to the forum. There is not a single thread of substance. Fast Threads may be easy enough to avoid on a personal level, but it's a deep embarrassment to the website as a whole that we let that shit go on.[/QUOTE] I wouldn't say the whole section needs to go but it'd be nice if those dumb "Above User" threads were banned

[Big Dumb Patriot]

[QUOTE=Fourm Shark;46285357]tbh I don't know why you guys dislike fast threads so much. I for one like many of the threads there, so the statement about the threads being shit I don't really understand.

STGYM is also a nice place you should check it out.

[editline]20th October 2014[/editline]

There are quite a few useless threads there but tbh I really do not think it justifies the removal of the entire section because of it. It would cause more harm than good to remove it.[/QUOTE]

People hate fast threads because it's, on the whole, a vapid, awkward place. It has very little to offer. It's basically just a toned down, half-assed 4chan.