Should we allow the weird porn threads (IE: "What turns you on" type threads with furry/vore/beastia

[Snickerdoodle]

[QUOTE=ChestyMcGee;46244624]i use facepunch to get my world news. sometimes i will briefly look at the world news through facepunch on, say, my lunchbreak. oh a new ebola scare, lets read up on that. hmm interesting. i wonder what the users have to say about this?

[img]http://facepunch.com/image.php?u=461038&dateline=1410451183[/img]

oh[/QUOTE]

tbh I still don't know what the hell is going on in this avatar.

[gorman]

[QUOTE=Baconator 7;46244661]...If you pulled out your phone with porn on it, that's [B][I][U]WHEN[/U][/I][/B] thing...[/QUOTE]

Grammar master.

[Spacewolf]

[QUOTE=Jimbomcb;46244686]imagine you had a child, would you be fine with them visiting a "what turns you on" thread known to be full of people who post sexual images involving children? is there seriously anyone out there who thinks that's a perfectly ok thing?[/QUOTE]

I don't really get this point, are you saying anything you wouldn't want your child to see on the internet shouldn't be allowed here?

[Zero-Point]

[QUOTE=Baconator 7;46244627]being pleasured by [url=http://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1256313&p=46221091&viewfull=1#post46221091]old widows who lost their children slaughtering zombies and other human beings, and then actively encouraging that behavior,[/url] is pretty fucked up, too.[/QUOTE]

You're comparing being emotionally attached to a character in a television drama to wanting to fuck a little kid. Do you even remember what you're arguing for at this point?

[WishesForFishes]

[QUOTE=NoobSauce;46244650]I agree. I never talk about my fetishes or anything I do in my personal time. I hate getting into other people's personal business too. It's just not right.[/QUOTE]

Because it makes you feel a bit more self confident. You learn that you aint the only one into this freaky bullshit, and the other people into it aren't necessarily weirdos besides the fact that they're into the same weird shit you are.

[axelord157]

I can't really defend the wtyo thread. I sometimes posted there, mostly funny pictures. Yet, there's no way I can stand by people who defend drawn CP. Yeah, it's not illegal, but I'll look at you funny if you consume it.

Give Dai a break, don't demod him. We're all humans who make mistakes and have terrible ideas. This whole thing is just making me sad. My favorite forum is at war and I'm watching the flames burn.

[Ownederd]

[QUOTE=Katatonic717;46244724]Because it makes you feel a bit more self confident. You learn that you aint the only one into this freaky bullshit, and the other people into it aren't necessarily weirdos besides the fact that they're into the same weird shit you are.[/QUOTE]

l m a o

[Baconator 7]

[QUOTE=fruxodaily;46244666]Did you even bother to understand the context of that episode, the people in that area trapped her own people and it was up to her to save them. That in no way relates to people wanting to fuck dogs or fuck children.

You're drawing comparisons out of your ass now, you might as well say people who enjoyed Breaking Bad wanted to start cooking and using meth. Nobody is actively jerking off to that shit, you guys are.[/QUOTE]

the context of drawn child porn: the guy jerking off to it is using that in place of real children even though he's obviously got some problems that need to be dealt with [sp]or maybe he is a suck fuck who fucks kids, but that hentai sure isn't real[/sp]

the context of twd: carol murdered several people, even leaving one of the WOMEN to be eaten alive by zombies while she's begging for mercy. you, man, you're one sick fucker for liking that.

[Jimbomcb]

[QUOTE=Fippe;46244703]i wouldn't be ok letting a child anywhere near the internet

they could visit ANYWHERE[/QUOTE]

not really, that can easily be controlled?

if this was on some fucked up site i wouldn't care but this is a gaming focused forum based around two games with young userbases, there's obviously going to be more children here than a lot of other sites?

[ROFLBURGER]

[QUOTE=Handsome Matt;46244676]avatars like this should be banned, in fact I thought they were? I've seen this guys too much.[/QUOTE]

idk what the fuck happened either

most people that I put on my ignore list changed their avatar to something else but some of the newer additions still have some pretty dumb shit

[t]http://facepunch.com/image.php?u=151251&dateline=1411918773[/t][t]http://facepunch.com/image.php?u=63029&dateline=1402247276[/t]

[Slim Charles]

[QUOTE=ChestyMcGee;46244688]there are some people here who are being vocal about having an issue with furries yeh but that isn't what the vote is about and that isn't what the majority of users are about[/QUOTE]

i don't have a issue with furries per say, but when they try to compare people expressing disdain towards them and comparing it to things like homophobia and trans phobia it's just downright disrespectful and wrong.

also i honestly don't see why the furry thread was closed yet the dragon thread what is essentially the same thing still exist

[Pokeman493]

[QUOTE=fruxodaily;46244695]Baconator 7 I think you've forgotten that Facepunch is a business and the forums reflect on that business. If potential investors go on here and see all these porn threads and fucked up shit like furries and loli, you think that's going to look good for Garry and his business?

Answer: Fuck no.[/QUOTE]

I was going to vote yes after asking a mod about something relating to the vote process, but thinking of it that way, I have no problem seeing them go.

[paramud]

[QUOTE=Hezzy;46244712]IT IS ILLEGAL TO POSSESS HENTAI / MANGA DRAWINGS DEPICTING SEXUAL ACTS ON CHILDREN UNDER UK LAW

[url]http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2009/25/section/62[/url]

SECTION 62 CORONERS AND JUSTICE ACT 2009[/QUOTE]

Yes thank you Hezzy I was wondering about whether or not child porn was legal, can you post the laws about what constitutes a full stop at a stop sign because I have to be at court next tuesday and I don't want to pay the ticket so I'm wondering if there's a way out of that

[ChestyMcGee]

[QUOTE=Katatonic717;46244724]Because it makes you feel a bit more self confident. You learn that you aint the only one into this freaky bullshit, and the other people into it aren't necessarily weirdos besides the fact that they're into the same weird shit you are.[/QUOTE]

there's self confidence and then there's circlejerking that makes people think it's okay to be borderline into beastiality and pedophillia

obviously that is a minority of cases but it isn't the kind of chance that should be taken on the official forums for a video game developer

there's plenty of outlets out there on the internet to talk about fetishes

[ROFLBURGER]

[QUOTE=Katatonic717;46244724]Because it makes you feel a bit more self confident. You learn that you aint the only one into this freaky bullshit, and the other people into it aren't necessarily weirdos besides the fact that they're into the same weird shit you are.[/QUOTE]

If you maybe need someone else to confirm that you're fetish isn't weird then maybe it is weird

[Zero-Point]

[QUOTE=Rhenae;46244653]We already don't allow "underage beastiality" porn anyway, there is certainly some weird shit in the thread but nothing illegal.

Besides look at the last few days place is practically sparkling with "normal" porn.

If it does go away are we allowed to have a normal furry porn thread? Because that is a lot of the posting in there that wouldn't go elsewhere anyway.[/QUOTE]

It shouldn't go anywhere other than "away from here". There's plenty of sites for that, google search it and go be weird somewhere else.

[Dr. Gestapo]

[QUOTE=Katatonic717;46244724]Because it makes you feel a bit more self confident. You learn that you aint the only one into this freaky bullshit, and the other people into it aren't necessarily weirdos besides the fact that they're into the same weird shit you are.[/QUOTE]

pretty sure you can do that somewhere else though?

like someone said before, facepunch is not only a business that needs to keep an image, it's also a gaming website that is frequented by minors. not a porn site.

this is REALLY not that hard a concept to grasp, dude!

[Arc Nova]

only way we can be rid of these people is build a time machine, kill all the mods, go back to 2006-2007, bring those mods to the present and begin operation get back to work

[Trafficman]

Hezzy will personally come to your house and smack you with his baton if you have loli on your computer

[Netsui]

[QUOTE=Paramud;46244743]Yes thank you Hezzy I was wondering about whether or not child porn was legal, can you post the laws about what constitutes a full stop at a stop sign because I have to be at court next tuesday and I don't want to pay the ticket so I'm wondering if there's a way out of that[/QUOTE]

nice one, you got him bud

[Arnold]

Ban weirdo porn threads.

[fruxodaily]

[QUOTE=Hezzy;46244712]IT IS ILLEGAL TO POSSESS HENTAI / MANGA DRAWINGS DEPICTING SEXUAL ACTS ON CHILDREN UNDER UK LAW

[url]http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2009/25/section/62[/url]

SECTION 62 CORONERS AND JUSTICE ACT 2009

[B]POSSESSION OF PROHIBITED IMAGES OF CHILDREN[/B]

(1)IT IS AN OFFENCE FOR A PERSON TO BE IN POSSESSION OF A PROHIBITED IMAGE OF A CHILD.

(2)A PROHIBITED IMAGE IS AN IMAGE WHICH—
(A)IS PORNOGRAPHIC,
(B)FALLS WITHIN SUBSECTION (6), AND
(C)IS GROSSLY OFFENSIVE, DISGUSTING OR OTHERWISE OF AN OBSCENE CHARACTER.

(3)AN IMAGE IS “PORNOGRAPHIC” IF IT IS OF SUCH A NATURE THAT IT MUST REASONABLY BE ASSUMED TO HAVE BEEN PRODUCED SOLELY OR PRINCIPALLY FOR THE PURPOSE OF SEXUAL AROUSAL.

(4)WHERE (AS FOUND IN THE PERSON'S POSSESSION) AN IMAGE FORMS PART OF A SERIES OF IMAGES, THE QUESTION WHETHER THE IMAGE IS OF SUCH A NATURE AS IS MENTIONED IN SUBSECTION (3) IS TO BE DETERMINED BY REFERENCE TO—
(A)THE IMAGE ITSELF, AND
(B)(IF THE SERIES OF IMAGES IS SUCH AS TO BE CAPABLE OF PROVIDING A CONTEXT FOR THE IMAGE) THE CONTEXT IN WHICH IT OCCURS IN THE SERIES OF IMAGES.

(5)SO, FOR EXAMPLE, WHERE—
(A)AN IMAGE FORMS AN INTEGRAL PART OF A NARRATIVE CONSTITUTED BY A SERIES OF IMAGES, AND
(B)HAVING REGARD TO THOSE IMAGES AS A WHOLE, THEY ARE NOT OF SUCH A NATURE THAT THEY MUST REASONABLY BE ASSUMED TO HAVE BEEN PRODUCED SOLELY OR PRINCIPALLY FOR THE PURPOSE OF SEXUAL AROUSAL,

THE IMAGE MAY, BY VIRTUE OF BEING PART OF THAT NARRATIVE, BE FOUND NOT TO BE PORNOGRAPHIC, EVEN THOUGH IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN FOUND TO BE PORNOGRAPHIC IF TAKEN BY ITSELF.

(6)AN IMAGE FALLS WITHIN THIS SUBSECTION IF IT—
(A)IS AN IMAGE WHICH FOCUSES SOLELY OR PRINCIPALLY ON A CHILD'S GENITALS OR ANAL REGION, OR
(B)PORTRAYS ANY OF THE ACTS MENTIONED IN SUBSECTION (7).

(7)THOSE ACTS ARE—
(A)THE PERFORMANCE BY A PERSON OF AN ACT OF INTERCOURSE OR ORAL SEX WITH OR IN THE PRESENCE OF A CHILD;
(B)AN ACT OF MASTURBATION BY, OF, INVOLVING OR IN THE PRESENCE OF A CHILD;
(C)AN ACT WHICH INVOLVES PENETRATION OF THE VAGINA OR ANUS OF A CHILD WITH A PART OF A PERSON'S BODY OR WITH ANYTHING ELSE;
(D)AN ACT OF PENETRATION, IN THE PRESENCE OF A CHILD, OF THE VAGINA OR ANUS OF A PERSON WITH A PART OF A PERSON'S BODY OR WITH ANYTHING ELSE;
(E)THE PERFORMANCE BY A CHILD OF AN ACT OF INTERCOURSE OR ORAL SEX WITH AN ANIMAL (WHETHER DEAD OR ALIVE OR IMAGINARY);
(F)THE PERFORMANCE BY A PERSON OF AN ACT OF INTERCOURSE OR ORAL SEX WITH AN ANIMAL (WHETHER DEAD OR ALIVE OR IMAGINARY) IN THE PRESENCE OF A CHILD.

(8)FOR THE PURPOSES OF SUBSECTION (7), PENETRATION IS A CONTINUING ACT FROM ENTRY TO WITHDRAWAL.

(9)PROCEEDINGS FOR AN OFFENCE UNDER SUBSECTION (1) MAY NOT BE INSTITUTED—
(A)IN ENGLAND AND WALES, EXCEPT BY OR WITH THE CONSENT OF THE DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC PROSECUTIONS;
(B)IN NORTHERN IRELAND, EXCEPT BY OR WITH THE CONSENT OF THE DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC PROSECUTIONS FOR NORTHERN IRELAND.[/QUOTE]

It is also illegal in Australia to have drawn photos of Children in both NSW + Commonwealth of Australia

State Legislation
8 Section 91H(3) of the Act creates the offence of possessing child pornography, carrying a maximum penalty of imprisonment of five years. Child pornography is defined as follows –
“child pornography means material that depicts or describes, in a manner that would in all the circumstances cause offence to reasonable persons, a person under (or apparently under) the age of 16 years:
(a) engaged in sexual activity, or
(b) in a sexual context, or
(c) as the victim of torture, cruelty or physical abuse (whether or not in a sexual context).”
9 Section 4 of the Crimes Act provides a definition of “person” as including any society, company or corporation, while s 21 of the Interpretation Act 1987 (NSW) provides –
“In any Act or instrument:
individual means a natural person
person includes an individual, a corporation and a body corporate or politic.”

Commonwealth legislation
10 Section 474.19 of the Code creates the offence, inter alia, of using “a carriage service to access [child pornography] material” and provides a maximum penalty of imprisonment for ten years. “Child pornography material” is defined in s 473.1 (so far as is relevant) as follows –
“child pornography material means:
(a) material that depicts a person, or a representation of a person, who is, or appears to be, under 18 years of age and who:
(i) is engaged in, or appears to be engaged in, a sexual pose or sexual activity (whether or not in the presence of other persons); or
(ii) is in the presence of a person, who is engaged in, or appears to be engaged in, a sexual pose or sexual activity;
and does this in a way that reasonable persons would regard as being, in all the circumstances, offensive …”

11 Section 22(1) of the Acts Interpretation Act (1901) (Cth) provides –
“In any Act, unless the contrary intention appears:
(a) expressions used to denote persons generally (such as ‘person’, ‘party’, ‘someone’, ‘anyone’, ‘no-one’, ‘one’, ‘another’ and ‘whoever’) include a body politic or corporate as well as an individual:
(aa) individual means a natural person …”

[url]http://www.lawlink.nsw.gov.au/scjudgments/2008nswsc.nsf/6ccf7431c546464bca2570e6001a45d2/ef4625a9db3003f1ca25751500066d48?OpenDocument[/url]

[WishesForFishes]

[QUOTE=fruxodaily;46244695]Baconator 7 I think you've forgotten that Facepunch is a business and the forums reflect on that business. If potential investors go on here and see all these porn threads and fucked up shit like furries and loli, you think that's going to look good for Garry and his business?

Answer: Fuck no.[/QUOTE]

Actually this makes a ton of sense.
Yeah fuck it, axe the thread.

[fippe]

[QUOTE=Jimbomcb;46244732]not really, that can easily be controlled?

if this was on some fucked up site i wouldn't care but this is a gaming focused forum based around two games with young userbases, there's obviously going to be more children here than a lot of other sites?[/QUOTE]

easily controlled, lol. there's billions of sites and ways for a kid to be subjected to porn and fucked up shit, and that's impossible to control, unless you cut off the whole supply.

no internet for my kids. they might see a porn spray in an online game or something.

[postal]

Boy there sure are a lot of people trying to be sneaky and use alts to vote YES. Yeah I totally wouldn't have suspected a 4 year old account with zero posts of being an alt, you guys TOTALLY fooled me

[Rhenae]

[QUOTE=ROFLBURGER;46244664]what the fuck is a normal furry porn thread[/QUOTE]

Just anthro characters having the average sexual encounters you would see in any of the other porn threads, just anthro. No inflation, no loli, no ferals (aka 4 legged animals), etc.

Furries really arn't inherently all [I]that[/I] weird, everything considered, its just a more fetish accepting community so a lot of the weirder stuff gets in there too.

[Snickerdoodle]

[QUOTE=farmatyr;46244759]Ban weirdo porn threads.[/QUOTE]

Ban all porn threads while we're at it.

[Baconator 7]

[QUOTE=Killuah;46244685]Did you just say you suffer when you can't have a thread where you share your dragon-kid double penetration images?[/QUOTE]

No, I said that I don't feel any need to go into that thread, thus it doesn't bother me that it's there and to know that there are people who's views differ from my own.

[sp]jk lol i can't go 5 minutes without my dragon dildos[/sp]

[Hezzy]

[QUOTE=Paramud;46244743]Yes thank you Hezzy I was wondering about whether or not child porn was legal, can you post the laws about what constitutes a full stop at a stop sign because I have to be at court next tuesday and I don't want to pay the ticket so I'm wondering if there's a way out of that[/QUOTE]

how about you suck my dick, pedo

[JohnFisher89]

Confine to OIFY = Problem solved

anyone who can post there and is warded out by what is posted needs a ban.

Just don't break any laws or shit, and damn keep it above 18 and no furfag shit