• Should we allow the weird porn threads (IE: "What turns you on" type threads with furry/vore/beastia
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[QUOTE=EcksDee;46249644]Or have someone who does frequent it be like an invisi-mod who can only moderate anything in that thread. Though tbh that is a bit too much trouble. Majority convenience overrules minority inconvenience after all.[/QUOTE] For that you would need dedicated section mods again in any case; it wouldn't work since all FP mods now have super mod privileges.
[QUOTE=Gwoodman;46249646].[/QUOTE] Can't change what? That he's more progressive than you? Yeah, can't change that.
[QUOTE=Manibogi;46249657]And instead of countering my post you jump to a completely different topic to try and derail a conversation. Congratulations, your special talent in life is: Terrible arguer![/QUOTE] there's nothing to counter, it's been proven by past events that letting users get away with this shit will eventually lead to catastrophe time and time again, and given weve had members as extreme as hqrse or jwj here it can really only get worse
[QUOTE=Gwoodman;46249661]Do you know what JWJ is about?[/QUOTE] All I have to know is that it's not related to the discussion I was trying to have. I'm not interested in knowing what it is on the basis of irrelevance.
I know what JWJ did, but who is hqrse?
[QUOTE=Zonesylvania;46249658]When you sort of put it this way one understands how it's more trouble than it's worth to keep such threads around. This is an example of a good argument that doesn't devolve into thinly veiled ad-hominem against users simply for their preferences.[/QUOTE] because it's impossible to explain to them that wanting to fuck dogs/babies/dog babies is not an acceptable thing to talk about amongst a children's video game forum in any human way. we have to bring it down to barebone logistics. [editline]16th October 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=Manibogi;46249675]All I have to know is that it's not related to the discussion I was trying to have. I'm not interested in knowing what it is on the basis of irrelevance.[/QUOTE] he's an fp member who's a convicted kiddy diddler and had a huge following on facepunch.
[QUOTE=EcksDee;46249668]Can't change what? That he's more progressive than you? Yeah, can't change that.[/QUOTE] good one dude, you got me with that zinger listen you goon he said he's okay with child porn you can't change that he said he's okay with it regardless of what he said in the rest of the post, he still agree on the acceptance of drawn child pornography ffs
[QUOTE=Manibogi;46249675]All I have to know is that it's not related to the discussion I was trying to have. I'm not interested in knowing what it is on the basis of irrelevance.[/QUOTE] did you know that multiple parties get input in discussions and that you don't actually control them?
[QUOTE=EcksDee;46249644]Or have someone who does frequent it be like an invisi-mod who can only moderate anything in that thread. Though tbh that is a bit too much trouble. Majority convenience overrules minority inconvenience after all.[/QUOTE] The track record of the threads is pretty awful already. Having more moderation isn't a real guarantee they won't go to shit again, it'd really just be more convenient to do away with them now, and save having this discussion again in a few months when the moderation for it slows down again.
[QUOTE=Griffster26;46249677]I know what JWJ did, but who is hqrse?[/QUOTE] experimented sexually with horses and talked about it on fp
[url]http://wikipunch.com/JWJ[/url] here's the wikipunch article for anybody interested
[QUOTE=Manibogi;46249675]All I have to know is that it's not related to the discussion I was trying to have. I'm not interested in knowing what it is on the basis of irrelevance.[/QUOTE] You don't know who he is but you ASSUME him irrelevant... [QUOTE]Congratulations, your special talent in life is: Terrible arguer![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=innerfire34;46249669]there's nothing to counter, it's been proven by past events that letting users get away with this shit will eventually lead to catastrophe time and time again, and given weve had members as extreme as hqrse or jwj here it can really only get worse[/QUOTE] Were they ever in the thread though? P. sure they weren't. And if they did post anything in the thread, it would get deleted (if there was someone moderating) But since the mods CBA I might as well change my vote to no for the sake of convenience. Sad though, the WTYO threads have generally been more mature than you.
[QUOTE=Gwoodman;46249688]You don't know who he is but you ASSUME him irrelevant...[/QUOTE] once im locked in to argument mode i'm totally capable of forming new opinions or learning
i don't care, get rid of them
[QUOTE=innerfire34;46249678]because it's impossible to explain to them that wanting to fuck dogs/babies/dog babies is not an acceptable thing to talk about amongst a children's video game forum in any human way. we have to bring it down to barebone logistics.[/QUOTE] Oh please, there's no need to get on the high horse to say such things. I understand where you're going with this and why you think this way. Ban the thread if you want. I'm just tired of people using this topic as an excuse to shitpost and launch thinly-veiled attacks on groups of people they don't like for arbitrary reasons.
I've never banned for loli or creepy furries in WTYO because they're [I]only drawings[/I] and I stand by that principle. But it doesn't belong on Facepunch, so I voted for no. Keep the weird shit on the sites that are actually meant for it.
[QUOTE=EcksDee;46249690]Were they ever in the thread though? P. sure they weren't. And if they did post anything in the thread, it would get deleted (if there was someone moderating) But since the mods CBA I might as well change my vote to no for the sake of convenience. Sad though, the WTYO threads have generally been more mature than you.[/QUOTE] yeah, fuck all those little kids that got taken advantage of by grown men in past iterations cause they're idiots, but also i guess we should shut it down just for logistical reasons. man i wish general discussion was mature enough to laugh at a gif of a baby animal getting raped.
People have lost context in this discussion. The thread has existed multiple times - more than it should - and every single time it has failed, either by breaking forum rules or being borderline illegal. [url]http://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1087833[/url] [url]http://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1100965[/url] [url]http://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1126295[/url] [url]http://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1310597[/url] [url]http://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1329822[/url] [url]http://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1409423[/url]
[QUOTE=Gwoodman;46249681]good one dude, you got me with that zinger listen you goon he said he's okay with child porn you can't change that he said he's okay with it regardless of what he said in the rest of the post, he still agree on the acceptance of drawn child pornography ffs[/QUOTE] He didn't fucking say that. This is exactly why I said primary school level reading comprehension. he said there's nothing wrong with liking it. The literal rest of the line says that he is not okay with it as a concept, but liking the stuff itself is uncontrollable, which means there is nothing wrong with it. It's a question of control, if you control your urges then there IS nothing wrong with it.
[QUOTE=EcksDee;46249704]He didn't fucking say that. This is exactly why I said primary school level reading comprehension. he said there's nothing wrong with liking it. The literal rest of the line says that he is not okay with it as a concept, but liking the stuff itself is uncontrollable, which means there is nothing wrong with it. It's a question of control, if you control your urges then there IS nothing wrong with it.[/QUOTE] that's the point wtf are you not getting
[QUOTE=Manibogi;46249694]Oh please, there's no need to get on the high horse to say such things. I understand where you're going with this and why you think this way. Ban the thread if you want. I'm just tired of people using this tpoic as an excuse to shitpost and launch thinly-veiled attacks on groups of people they don't like for arbitrary reasons.[/QUOTE] [url]http://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1409423&p=45716081&viewfull=1#post45716081[/url] look at this fucking picture dude im not on a high horse, that dude posted a picture of one animal raping another baby animal in a thread about things that "turn you on the most". why would you be on a high horse for taking fucking objection to that
fp only has porn threads because of desperate teens anyway
[QUOTE=Gwoodman;46249706]that's the point wtf are you not getting[/QUOTE] wtf are YOU not getting? Did he say that he's okay with child porn Or Did he say that he's okay with people liking child porn Massive fucking difference, one is a horrible industry of horrible people that destroy children the other is an uncontrollable psychological condition that ruins most normal people that have it which one fucking is it
[QUOTE=Manibogi;46249694]Oh please, there's no need to get on the high horse to say such things. I understand where you're going with this and why you think this way. Ban the thread if you want. I'm just tired of people using this topic as an excuse to shitpost and launch thinly-veiled attacks on groups of people they don't like for arbitrary reasons.[/QUOTE] nothing about disliking people who jack off to child-rape is arbitrary [editline]16th October 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=EcksDee;46249714]wtf are YOU not getting? Did he say that he's okay with child porn Or Did he say that he's okay with people liking child porn Massive fucking difference, one is a horrible industry of horrible people that destroy children the other is an uncontrollable psychological condition that ruins most normal people that have it which one fucking is it[/QUOTE] lmao i was wired from birth to jack it to my favorite episodes of naruto
[QUOTE=CheeseMan;46249702]People have lost context in this discussion. The thread has existed multiple times - more than it should - and every single time it has failed, either by breaking forum rules or being borderline illegal. [url]http://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1087833[/url] [url]http://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1100965[/url] [url]http://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1126295[/url] [url]http://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1310597[/url] [url]http://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1329822[/url] [url]http://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1409423[/url][/QUOTE] Christ, I didn't realize it had gone through so many versions. I mean that pretty blatantly of shows the idea of the threads can't function within the boundaries set out. I'm pretty sure other threads have been given less chances before being stopped entirely, I can't think of any but it's not like that's a big stretch of the imagination to assume.
[QUOTE=innerfire34;46249716] lmao i was wired from birth to jack it to my favorite episodes of naruto[/QUOTE] Great, you're done, next.
[QUOTE=EcksDee;46249714]wtf are YOU not getting? Did he say that he's okay with child porn Or Did he say that he's okay with people liking child porn Massive fucking difference, one is a horrible industry of horrible people that destroy children the other is an uncontrollable psychological condition that ruins most normal people that have it which one fucking is it[/QUOTE] both is about liking child porn and both are wrong you aren't normal if you have a mental condition like that and you aren't treating yourself by jacking off to it
[QUOTE=CheeseMan;46249633]This doesn't work. The thread has to go if these things are found to be true - on the basis that the moderation A) doesn't want to moderate the thread (not a single mod has voted to keep the threads, which should be telling) and B) when they've been moderated it's been extremely slack and has let multiple (we've found two examples, but trust me there are more in that quagmire) instances of outright rule-breaking through. Keep in mind that that thread had already been closed and re-opened TWICE, not including threads before that like the weirdest boner thread. They had two prior chances to not fuck up and they did. Since the moderation neither wants nor seemingly has the ability to keep that thread under control, if it's found to be more negative than positive there's really no recourse than to remove it.[/QUOTE]Tbh this is reason enough, really (in addition to whatever legal concerns may arise from loli/cub/whatever such shite). Child-safeness would probably also require the closing of quite a lot of other stuff depending on how far one wants to go to fulfil that criterion. Which seems odd considering Rust would be a 16+ at least, merely because of the caveman bollocks.
[QUOTE=Gwoodman;46249723]both is about liking child porn and both are wrong you aren't normal if you have a mental condition like that and you aren't treating yourself by jacking off to it[/QUOTE] You can still lead a normal life with it by controlling your urges and not jacking off to it and liking child porn does not mean you jack off to it. Most pedophiles (which is a medical term) choose to distance themselves so that they may be normal.
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