oh big deal that's what they get paid to do
fuck cops srsly people privately hire security guards to protect property and they are very professional and it works great lets just do that and save tax money and some beatings
username fits with that logic.
Having privately owned police forces would lead to corruption, lack of coverage, and favorites. You wont be saving any money with the amount of injustice served
[QUOTE=areolop;42853573]username fits with that logic.
Having privately owned police forces would lead to corruption, lack of coverage, and favorites. You wont be saving any money with the amount of injustice served[/QUOTE]
so, nothing like what we have now.
not saying there isn't good cops but I think they are definitely the minority
[QUOTE=areolop;42853573]username fits with that logic.
Having privately owned police forces would lead to corruption, lack of coverage, and favorites. You wont be saving any money with the amount of injustice served[/QUOTE]
as if the government isnt prone to corruption and favorites lol
it can be regulated so its nice and humane and communities can now hire people to arrest gang members. you dont see that many squad cars in compton. i think the real estate business might have interest in it but what do i know.
[QUOTE=S33T;42840319]Lots; once again just like OP said its what you want to hear about, I've never done anything heroic worth talking about.
Once we got to a scene and this kid a year older than me had impaled himself on a piece of another cars bumper; he asked us "Am I going to die?" and I didn't have the guts to tell him, but my superior told him he was indeed going to die. He maybe lived another minute before he died.
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Holy shit..This is among the reasons why I left the paramedics after "my" first fatal crash. I could handle a dead guy who had been alone, surprisingly the dead body was no problem for me at all (granted, it was still largely intact). It just felt a little weird because he was still warm to the touch.
But screaming relatives, or watching someone die? My worst nightmare. I think seeing something like this on a regular basis would destroy me.
[QUOTE=Don Merino;42860120]
But screaming relatives, or watching someone die? My worst nightmare. I think seeing something like this on a regular basis would destroy me.[/QUOTE]
In my entire year as a EMT I saw over 100 deaths, there have been plenty of times where nobody has been hurt to, but nobody ever wants to hear about those.
I had a kid that drank a whole cup of bleach and when we got there he was convulsing and vomiting blood and the whole time his girlfriend was hysterical and I had to tell her to shut up so I could try to save her boyfriends life.
He died right there on the floor almost right after; she had to be locked up in a psych ward afterwards.
Another time I saw another suicide; the guy had made some sort of gas to kill himself, I can't remember exactly what it was but once the house had been fumigated we came in and he was bleeding from every orifice in his body.
Like Eyes, Nose, Mouth.
Everything.
I'm planning on taking and EMT class this spring.
My EMT course was probably the most gruesome thing I've had to sit through. There was a bit too many case studies for my liking. You really learn about society.
[QUOTE=areolop;42860718]My EMT course was probably the most gruesome thing I've had to sit through. There was a bit too many case studies for my liking. You really learn about society.[/QUOTE]
Well; I have to say I don't look at life the same way I used to, People think I'm negative but I just can't seem to find anything positive anymore.
[QUOTE=S33T;42860823]Well; I have to say I don't look at life the same way I used to, People think I'm negative but I just can't seem to find anything positive anymore.[/QUOTE]
I think you might want to talk to somebody then man. No one should have that outlook on life, it's not healthy at all, Kinda worrying actually.
[QUOTE=S33T;42860823]Well; I have to say I don't look at life the same way I used to, People think I'm negative but I just can't seem to find anything positive anymore.[/QUOTE]
It's because your average day consisted of some of the worst possible shit that can happen.
Life really isn't that bad. You just spent your days occupied with the bad stuff. With 7 billion people on this planet, millions are gonna have some terrible shit happen to them every day. Still a fraction of the number of people on this planet.
With some bird races, 30 to 40% of the entire population die off every winter. Do you think those birds don't enjoy their lives while they last? It's all a matter of perspective. Also, it's no good to anybody if you feel miserable about others feeling miserable. Just means there's one more person feeling miserable.
VOSK is right.. You should talk to someone whose job it is to talk to people who are going through shit like this. You shouldn't have to deal with it all on your own.
Also, I, for one, would like to hear about some of the good things that happened on your job.
[QUOTE=VOSK;42860899]I think you might want to talk to somebody then man. No one should have that outlook on life, it's not healthy at all, Kinda worrying actually.[/QUOTE]
I have, but you just sort of have to live with PTSD there's not really anything you can do about it.
But my outlook will always be this way.
[editline]14th November 2013[/editline]
[QUOTE=Don Merino;42861044]
Also, I, for one, would like to hear about some of the good things that happened on your job.[/QUOTE]
I once delivered a set of twins on the side of the road; the lady was in a small accident and just went into labor; hands down the most awesome thing I've ever done.
Another one was one of our guys had a little brother who was in a bad accident, we could have sworn he was dead, the car was beer canned like totally fucked, but once we got the door off out stumbles his brother with only a few bruises; the moment they shared of sheer love and emotion they shared sticks in my head to this day.
When we pulled him out I watched two grown men embrace eachother and roll on the concrete like children, both of them bawling their eyes out.
Soon after believe it or not that little brother replaced my position.
But sometimes its hard not to be negative, and I'm really working on it.
[QUOTE=areolop;42824998]This edited text is from a Canadian website about PTSD which has since been removed. The original text can be found below
[url]http://uneflic.blogspot.com/2007/05/confessions-of-beat-cop.html[/url][/QUOTE]
I thought this was going to be a confession from you.
I admit to nothing, deny everything, and demand proof to all allegations.
the only thing I confess is that I'm scared of dying on the job.
My mothers side of the family is entirely career firefighters and I've heard so many great and terrible stories. My uncle was telling me about a guy on a street bike going at a very high rate of speed weaving in and out of traffic until he hit a flatbed truck. Everything was in one piece below the jaw when they got to him.
So in other words, people really oughta respect our public servants. They really don't deserve the bad rap they get.
[quote]My work is not just protecting and serving. It’s preserving that buffer that exists in the space between what you think the world is, and what the world really is.[/quote]
How is this beneficial or even justifiable
[QUOTE=areolop;42853573]
Having privately owned police forces would lead to corruption, lack of coverage, and favorites. You wont be saving any money with the amount of injustice served[/QUOTE]
well, speaking as someone living in Chicago, there isn't exactly a great track record on that here...
[QUOTE=Venezuelan;42874221]well, speaking as someone living in Chicago, there isn't exactly a great track record on that here...[/QUOTE]
Well it is chicago. The track record there for police isnt real great.. and you have some pretty fucked up gun laws
[editline]15th November 2013[/editline]
[QUOTE=Talishmar;42874129]How is this beneficial or even justifiable[/QUOTE]
Theres a whole lot more to society than what you experience daily. You mostly see only the good, while other public servants see mostly only the bad
I'm just saying, it's not like being public prevents corruption. Although in general I prefer governmental services to private ones because there is more direct control, emergency services don't seem to have the same amount of checks and balances as other government-run services do.
[QUOTE=Venezuelan;42875956]I'm just saying, it's not like being public prevents corruption. Although in general I prefer governmental services to private ones because there is more direct control, emergency services don't seem to have the same amount of checks and balances as other government-run services do.[/QUOTE]
Thats because emergency services are city council ran. Their power comes from the citizens, not the state legislature. Theres plenty of control with it this way, but it takes a group of citizens to speak out to the city council.
Christ, I couldn't possibly deal with the stuff you guys have probably had to see, especially EMT teams. What you describe makes me cringe inside. I think you're made of really strong stuff to be able to bear all that, maybe not because you want to, but because no one else will.
Bless you all.
[QUOTE=S33T;42861144]I have, but you just sort of have to live with PTSD there's not really anything you can do about it.
But my outlook will always be this way.
[editline]14th November 2013[/editline]
I once delivered a set of twins on the side of the road; the lady was in a small accident and just went into labor; hands down the most awesome thing I've ever done.
Another one was one of our guys had a little brother who was in a bad accident, we could have sworn he was dead, the car was beer canned like totally fucked, but once we got the door off out stumbles his brother with only a few bruises; the moment they shared of sheer love and emotion they shared sticks in my head to this day.
When we pulled him out I watched two grown men embrace eachother and roll on the concrete like children, both of them bawling their eyes out.
Soon after believe it or not that little brother replaced my position.
But sometimes its hard not to be negative, and I'm really working on it.[/QUOTE]
Can we make a movie with this stuff? It's golden.
Cops aren't the bad guys. District attorneys, prosecutors, and judges are the bad guys. I've got a record of sorts, and when I was busted for what I did, the cops only sought to help me and seemed genuinely sorry that I had made such poor decisions. On the other hand, those aforementioned are really only there to ruin lives and strike another aspiring teenager off of their lists of 'bad guys'. The criminal justice system in America is flawed. Those with lawful standing are crucified when they finally make a mistake, and the true criminals are given too many unfair chances at doing what they did once more. In my case, the cop involved with my arrest put on a good word to the district attorney and my lawyer, and i still may as well have ended up throwing my life away, because it turns out that a 15000 dollar lawyer and the good word of a clean record and 65 people and ranking town officials just isn't enough to throw out the word of a smug ass prosecutor sitting on bank roll from throwing kids in jail. Cops are given a bad name because of those lard asses that truly put people behind bars.
[QUOTE=Fox01;42878305]Cops aren't the bad guys. District attorneys, prosecutors, and judges are the bad guys. I've got a record of sorts, and when I was busted for what I did, the cops only sought to help me and seemed genuinely sorry that I had made such poor decisions. On the other hand, those aforementioned are really only there to ruin lives and strike another aspiring teenager off of their lists of 'bad guys'. The criminal justice system in America is flawed. Those with lawful standing are crucified when they finally make a mistake, and the true criminals are given too many unfair chances at doing what they did once more. In my case, the cop involved with my arrest put on a good word to the district attorney and my lawyer, and i still may as well have ended up throwing my life away, because it turns out that a 15000 dollar lawyer and the good word of a clean record and 65 people and ranking town officials just isn't enough to throw out the word of a smug ass prosecutor sitting on bank roll from throwing kids in jail. Cops are given a bad name because of those lard asses that truly put people behind bars.[/QUOTE]
It might help if you explained what happened to make you so damn biased towards the court system.
[QUOTE=Chernobyl426;42877575]Can we make a movie with this stuff? It's golden.[/QUOTE]
Why make a movie about it? Go sign up for a ridealong and see it for yourself.
[QUOTE=areolop;42878901]Why make a movie about it? Go sign up for a ridealong and see it for yourself.[/QUOTE]
But...ridealongs lead to TV shows
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[QUOTE=Fox01;42879419]I dropped a friend off at Walmart where he stole 250 dollars worth of stuff, only 50 above the 200 dollar felony limit in Virginia. I was charged as an accomplice and given 6 months in jail, a year probation, 50 hours community service, and a felony charge lasting 5 years, where I will make a plea to the governor to forgive me. Although Walmart lost none of the merchandise, a civil case was opened against me, too.
All because I was taking a friend to walmart, and he lied to people.[/QUOTE]
I knew a guy from my hometown in a similar situation, except it was a liquor store.
There's nothing really to do except take the punishment and maaaybe stray away from possible shoplifters.
[QUOTE=Rangergxi;42826373]They can't prevent every crime ever but without them criminals would have free reign.[/QUOTE]
That's why we own firearms in this country.
Crime is never fully preventable and the police won't be around one day TO prevent it.
That been said..
One of my favorite things to do is get baked and talk to Cops. (while I'm open carrying of course)
It could be about how their day is going, sports, or the type of firearms we are packing at the time.
Either way, they always appreciate the local stoner kid reaching out to their local Law Enforcement Officers, even if it's just for 5 minutes out of the day.
I am an EMT and id like to say i appreciate the cops. They are an EMT and medic's best friend.
[editline]17th November 2013[/editline]
[QUOTE=Chernobyl426;42877575]Can we make a movie with this stuff? It's golden.[/QUOTE]
Anyone can sign up for a ride along, not just student emts. Please sign up. I appreciate when your everyday civilian signs up because it shows the community cares. Especially after all the patients that have fought with me and my partners over care
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