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first time I drove a manual it was in a two ton van with 120hp, oh and somebody forgot to mention there was a trailer loaded with like half a ton of shit on the back of it too.. and it was uphill. I was like, gg.
How would I avoid burning the clutch? I know that the longer the clutch is held in while you're giving gas the shorter the clutch's life will be, but it takes forever for me to find the friction point. What's the best way of taking off from a stop?
Turned 17 today, woo!
[QUOTE=Glitch360;39155174]How would I avoid burning the clutch? I know that the longer the clutch is held in while you're giving gas the shorter the clutch's life will be, but it takes forever for me to find the friction point. What's the best way of taking off from a stop?[/QUOTE] Just make sure you're not revving it to 6k when taking off and the clutch will be fine [editline]9th January 2013[/editline] and don't change gears like this clown [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zLMrpyc5h0[/media]
[QUOTE=Glitch360;39155174]How would I avoid burning the clutch? I know that the longer the clutch is held in while you're giving gas the shorter the clutch's life will be, but it takes forever for me to find the friction point. What's the best way of taking off from a stop?[/QUOTE] Feel it out. When I first got my 240sx my dad was like Mr. Miyagi. Totally felt like Karate Kid. He had me park the car on our raised driveway and play with the friction point all day so I could master the friction point and starting on an incline. Involved pressing and letting go of the clutch to feel when it bites in order make the vehicle move. The rest was just skill; I learned it eventually. IMO, the hard thing to get used to is shifting the gears right after the clutch pedal is fully depressed. Sometimes you will do it too early and you will grind. The next thing is to learn how to give it gas while letting go of the clutch in order to have a smooth transition. Later on you can learn things like rev matching and heel-toe etc. Just get a manual, its so much better and funner than auto imo. I get to focus more on driving too because I have no free hands now.
[video=youtube;I-BldI0hmUM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-BldI0hmUM[/video] hah :v:
[QUOTE=sHiBaN;39155460]Feel it out. When I first got my 240sx my dad was like Mr. Miyagi. Totally felt like Karate Kid. [b]He had me park the car on our raised driveway and play with the friction point all day so I could master the friction point and starting on an incline. Involved pressing and letting go of the clutch to feel when it bites in order make the vehicle move.[/b] The rest was just skill; I learned it eventually. IMO, the hard thing to get used to is shifting the gears right after the clutch pedal is fully depressed. Sometimes you will do it too early and you will grind. The next thing is to learn how to give it gas while letting go of the clutch in order to have a smooth transition. Later on you can learn things like rev matching and heel-toe etc. Just get a manual, its so much better and funner than auto imo. I get to focus more on driving too because I have no free hands now.[/QUOTE] This. I've had SO many friends back out of buying a 5-speed due to their retarded friends/parents not teaching them properly. I've watched countless people trying to demonstrate how to drive manual transmission by saying "You need to let off the clutch while simultaneously pressing on the gas, but it has to be an even amount!" Instead of just having the driver practice feeling for the clutch's engagement point.
Well, it's official... most posts on club4ag have been deleted due to technical issues. also I've found something awfully close to the Alfa 155 DTM body kit: [t]http://www.psgbodystyling.co.uk/images/alfa/alfa_romeo_155_psg_f.jpg[/t] [t]http://img2.netcarshow.com/Alfa_Romeo-155_2.5_V6_TI_DTM_1993_800x600_wallpaper_01.jpg[/t] Strikingly similar and available new -edit- I still have some c4ag posts saved for later review, also all the technical articles are still there --edit-- although I cant find any of them...
Too my dart out for the first time in a month. My Dad managed to nab some inspection stickers from work to slap on it, since it still needs some work before it'll pass inspection. Felt so damn good, haha.
I have decided that I want a fox body. They've always appealed to me. One of my dad's first cars was an '89 GT that he worked for himself, so I'll be in the same boat. However, one of the reasons for my decision has a nice little story. Every day when I come home from school, I see this really nicely kept black GT in a parking lot. I've admired it every day for the past year and a half (a bit creepy, but whatever :v:). Today when I was coming home, it wasn't there for the first time ever. I was kinda bummed out. Then, a few blocks later, I saw it sitting at a stop sign. I politely waved at the driver, and he looked at me, revved it a bit (one of the most glorious sounds I have ever heard in person), and did a burnout from the stop sign. That made my whole week.
I loved revving at the highschool kids that were always outside the one sub-shop in brigantine, no matter what shitbox you were in, they'd cheer you on like you were a fucking god.
So I was driving to the mall to get my hair cut and we have this weird intersection thing: [t]http://puu.sh/1LMPh[/t] I'm the green car (Lexus SUV) and blue is someone obeying the words STOP written on the road and STOP on the big reg sign!!!!!! Yellow is some idiot who decided to slow down, then keep going through as I enter the intersection (I have right of way). I learned that the brakes on my mom's car work realllllll good. I'm sure the person behind me was happy they weren't riding my bumper because that was one hell of a stop.
[img]http://gomotors.net/pics/Honda/honda-crx-del-sol-01.jpg[/img] I always liked this car. A friend of mine had one very long ago, it was so cool to see the electric roof opening up. Does anyone have any information about this car at all? Like, how well and easy it would be for the everyday life and to live with? I got in an argument with my dad about buying one since I really need my own goddamn transportation method and he basically called it a "sporty unreliable gas guzzling piece of shit", right after going from the "found one in a nearby used dealership, and shouldn't even get to 5000€" to "it's the one that friend of mine had, the small 2 seater little car". I found a few on that website I posted before on the "cars that look good" thread, ranging from 3000 to 6000+ € in apparently good condition, all between 100.000 and 200.000km, never reaching said 200.000 Anyway, he said its a total no-go since its a sporty car that goes through gas like a fire and that parts are expensive and rare... ...this coming from a man that had the same Fiat Uno for 15+ years, sold it for takedown and swore he wouldn't get another Fiat, and then bought a used Punto from '03 for 5.500€ that has what I would say the shittiest clutch I've ever seen and the most noisy suspension ever that will squeak as soon as you sit in the back; and a 2 seater diesel Opel Corsa from '98 with 200.000km (that curiously, also says "bye bye" to gas very fast) for 3000€, loud as fuck, after he said he wouldn't buy an Opel, and after my mom telling him she didn't want a 2 seater... I can't help to feel that the CRX del sol might be bad, but I also think he's plain wrong. Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't a car's mileage also has something to do with how someone uses it? Not like I would be speeding like hell, but comparing the usage of, for example, said CRX and said Opel Corsa diesel? I don't think parts are that rare and expensive... If I do an image search for the car, I get a fuckton of pictures posted by people from my own country, which should mean loads of people have one, and there might be loads of spare parts around, right? It's apparently a car most ricers enjoy, sadly... So, in short, he would most likely allow me to have an european econoshitbox which would probably be more expensive, than the car I'd like which isn't even that expensive, [b]or even make me go through the ordeal of having to carpool with him at what should be mad hours in the morning to take him to work and then go on my way to work aswell[/b], which I find it to be the most stupid idea ever, as it would be a whole fuckton of dependence on each other's current availability, while one could be working, and the other waiting for him to pick him up. So, FP, what is right and what is wrong?
It's is a reliable, slow, economy car. What the hell is he talking about?
[QUOTE=tommyc225;39155285]Just make sure you're not revving it to 6k when taking off and the clutch will be fine [editline]9th January 2013[/editline] and don't change gears like this clown [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zLMrpyc5h0[/media][/QUOTE] i dont think the mustang pressed his gas or it was the v6.
I didn't see any mustang in that video.
[QUOTE=Rocâ„¢;39161241][img]http://gomotors.net/pics/Honda/honda-crx-del-sol-01.jpg[/img] I always liked this car. A friend of mine had one very long ago, it was so cool to see the electric roof opening up. Does anyone have any information about this car at all? Like, how well and easy it would be for the everyday life and to live with? I got in an argument with my dad about buying one since I really need my own goddamn transportation method and he basically called it a "sporty unreliable gas guzzling piece of shit", right after going from the "found one in a nearby used dealership, and shouldn't even get to 5000€" to "it's the one that friend of mine had, the small 2 seater little car". I found a few on that website I posted before on the "cars that look good" thread, ranging from 3000 to 6000+ € in apparently good condition, all between 100.000 and 200.000km, never reaching said 200.000 Anyway, he said its a total no-go since its a sporty car that goes through gas like a fire and that parts are expensive and rare... ...this coming from a man that had the same Fiat Uno for 15+ years, sold it for takedown and swore he wouldn't get another Fiat, and then bought a used Punto from '03 for 5.500€ that has what I would say the shittiest clutch I've ever seen and the most noisy suspension ever that will squeak as soon as you sit in the back; and a 2 seater diesel Opel Corsa from '98 with 200.000km (that curiously, also says "bye bye" to gas very fast) for 3000€, loud as fuck, after he said he wouldn't buy an Opel, and after my mom telling him she didn't want a 2 seater... I can't help to feel that the CRX del sol might be bad, but I also think he's plain wrong. Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't a car's mileage also has something to do with how someone uses it? Not like I would be speeding like hell, but comparing the usage of, for example, said CRX and said Opel Corsa diesel? I don't think parts are that rare and expensive... If I do an image search for the car, I get a fuckton of pictures posted by people from my own country, which should mean loads of people have one, and there might be loads of spare parts around, right? It's apparently a car most ricers enjoy, sadly... So, in short, he would most likely allow me to have an european econoshitbox which would probably be more expensive, than the car I'd like which isn't even that expensive, [b]or even make me go through the ordeal of having to carpool with him at what should be mad hours in the morning to take him to work and then go on my way to work aswell[/b], which I find it to be the most stupid idea ever, as it would be a whole fuckton of dependence on each other's current availability, while one could be working, and the other waiting for him to pick him up. So, FP, what is right and what is wrong?[/QUOTE] Goes through gas like a fire? How good of mileage is your pa expecting? The 30-40mpg the range of Del Sols gets is pretty decent for being a quick and nimble two-seater targa coupe. As far as parts, the CRX Del Sol shares the EXACT platform with the 1992-1995 Civic EG chassis, so EVERYTHING aside from body parts is identical (Engine, tranny, suspension, even down to the engine computer if they came from a Civic with the same engine!), and 99% of the same things from the 1996-2000 Civic EK chassis and 1994-2001 Integra DC chassis is also the same (They didn't change much through those years!). The D-series CRX Del Sol will run to 300,000 miles (480k+ km) easily with proper care and maintenance, and the sheer amount of parts available online can keep it going for years to come. If you can live with two seats, it's an unbelievably good car. That and the leaky targa top are about the only two complaints I have with them. They are otherwise a really awesome car with a ton of potential for fun and reliability.
Alright, quick question. Say you have a V6, an I6, and an H6. What are the benefits and disadvantages of each?
Inline engine have a good potential for power and maximum RPM, V engines have better balance and torque curve than an inline engine, and a flat engine has a better torque curve than a V engine but sometimes the balance is worse, iirc.
[QUOTE=Dylan_94;39161770]It's is a reliable, slow, economy car. What the hell is he talking about?[/QUOTE] So I thought aswell. It's a goddamn Honda. He thinks just because the car looks sporty and stuff its instantly an expensive car to have.
[QUOTE=Banana Lord.;39160765]So I was driving to the mall to get my hair cut and we have this weird intersection thing: [t]http://puu.sh/1LMPh[/t] I'm the green car (Lexus SUV) and blue is someone obeying the words STOP written on the road and STOP on the big reg sign!!!!!! Yellow is some idiot who decided to slow down, then keep going through as I enter the intersection (I have right of way). I learned that the brakes on my mom's car work realllllll good. I'm sure the person behind me was happy they weren't riding my bumper because that was one hell of a stop.[/QUOTE] You guys always have the best drawings :v:
[QUOTE=Rocâ„¢;39161241][img]http://gomotors.net/pics/Honda/honda-crx-del-sol-01.jpg[/img] I always liked this car. A friend of mine had one very long ago, it was so cool to see the electric roof opening up. Does anyone have any information about this car at all? Like, how well and easy it would be for the everyday life and to live with? I got in an argument with my dad about buying one since I really need my own goddamn transportation method and he basically called it a "sporty unreliable gas guzzling piece of shit", right after going from the "found one in a nearby used dealership, and shouldn't even get to 5000€" to "it's the one that friend of mine had, the small 2 seater little car". I found a few on that website I posted before on the "cars that look good" thread, ranging from 3000 to 6000+ € in apparently good condition, all between 100.000 and 200.000km, never reaching said 200.000 Anyway, he said its a total no-go since its a sporty car that goes through gas like a fire and that parts are expensive and rare... ...this coming from a man that had the same Fiat Uno for 15+ years, sold it for takedown and swore he wouldn't get another Fiat, and then bought a used Punto from '03 for 5.500€ that has what I would say the shittiest clutch I've ever seen and the most noisy suspension ever that will squeak as soon as you sit in the back; and a 2 seater diesel Opel Corsa from '98 with 200.000km (that curiously, also says "bye bye" to gas very fast) for 3000€, loud as fuck, after he said he wouldn't buy an Opel, and after my mom telling him she didn't want a 2 seater... I can't help to feel that the CRX del sol might be bad, but I also think he's plain wrong. Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't a car's mileage also has something to do with how someone uses it? Not like I would be speeding like hell, but comparing the usage of, for example, said CRX and said Opel Corsa diesel? I don't think parts are that rare and expensive... If I do an image search for the car, I get a fuckton of pictures posted by people from my own country, which should mean loads of people have one, and there might be loads of spare parts around, right? It's apparently a car most ricers enjoy, sadly... So, in short, he would most likely allow me to have an european econoshitbox which would probably be more expensive, than the car I'd like which isn't even that expensive, [b]or even make me go through the ordeal of having to carpool with him at what should be mad hours in the morning to take him to work and then go on my way to work aswell[/b], which I find it to be the most stupid idea ever, as it would be a whole fuckton of dependence on each other's current availability, while one could be working, and the other waiting for him to pick him up. So, FP, what is right and what is wrong?[/QUOTE] a del sol is an extremely cheap to drive, fun, reliable car. I have a civic eg which is almost the same exact thing, I've had no problems with it besides replacing the clutch and the driver side axle. I can vouch for their reliability. if it means anything my friend has a del sol vtec, with the b16 and he loves it. your dad doesnt really seem to know what he is saying imo
I never understood the Del sol, is it just a two seat hard top civic? It almost looks like it want's to be mid engined, but I don't think it is.
[QUOTE=bradley;39162218]Goes through gas like a fire? How good of mileage is your pa expecting? The 30-40mpg the range of Del Sols gets is pretty decent for being a quick and nimble two-seater targa coupe. As far as parts, the CRX Del Sol shares the EXACT platform with the 1992-1995 Civic EG chassis, so EVERYTHING aside from body parts is identical (Engine, tranny, suspension, even down to the engine computer if they came from a Civic with the same engine!), and 99% of the same things from the 1996-2000 Civic EK chassis and 1994-2001 Integra DC chassis is also the same (They didn't change much through those years!). The D-series CRX Del Sol will run to 300,000 miles (480k+ km) easily with proper care and maintenance, and the sheer amount of parts available online can keep it going for years to come. If you can live with two seats, it's an unbelievably good car. That and the leaky targa top are about the only two complaints I have with them. They are otherwise a really awesome car with a ton of potential for fun and reliability.[/QUOTE] I have no idea what kind of mileage he's expecting really. Probably the same as his crap Punto from '03. He says he already spends a lot of dosh to maintain both the Corsa and his italian squeaking scrapmetal of a car, I think he has a second family since he complains that he's always out of money... Goes to the point of, as I already said, having more possibilities of having to carpool and switch between cars to do it. Fucking seriously, theres people with less money than us that have better fucking cars ffs... Civics and Integras and so on aren't very normal around here, but its not like they are the rarest of things either I guess... It's exactly what I thought. I have no idea where he got the idea that its hard to get parts for it. I can happily live with 2 seats aswell, it's what I've always wanted actually. Besides, it seems small and lightweight, adding to the fact that its fast, it should be a nice break away from the european bullshit seen every day. Not like I'm gonna be fiddling with it or racing people ofc, but I'd like a little more than the already mentioned euroshit that isn't any kind of fun at all. I think that he looked at the sporty design and thought straight away that the car would be an unreliable sponge. I get his idea that times are hard, but for fuck sakes, I'll be the one paying for the gas, at least let me have a car that puts a smile on my face that isn't riddled with boredom... How the hell do I convince him? I almost don't feel like trying again due to how much of a cunt he can be with his "my ideas are the best, fuck your shit" way of thinking, but you guys are just giving me more gas to add to my own fire and that fucking car is a dream of freedom from the depression that is the automotive 2013 :v:
[QUOTE=Del91;39162614]I never understood the Del sol, is it just a two seat hard top civic? It almost looks like it want's to be mid engined, but I don't think it is.[/QUOTE] It's the third generation CRX. Just a shortened, two seater Civic, but that generation has a targa top.
[QUOTE=Rocâ„¢;39161241][img]http://gomotors.net/pics/Honda/honda-crx-del-sol-01.jpg[/img] [/QUOTE] Hehe, your dad sounds like my dad. :(
[QUOTE=Del91;39162614]I never understood the Del sol, is it just a two seat hard top civic? It almost looks like it want's to be mid engined, but I don't think it is.[/QUOTE] Funny thing, the wikipedia page about it also mentioned something like how the car looks like a mid engined 2 seater but is in fact a front engine front wheel drive car. It's sort of a hard top which you can manually remove. I think the back windshield also slides down to give a more convertible like feeling. There is also an electrical version of it, where the trunk hatch goes flat up, extends 2 arms that attach to the top and remove it automatically, storing it in the trunk. It was the coolest car when I was like 7 or something. My friend's mom (who was bloody hot aswell, and according to a few people, a prostitute) had one in black. HHHHNNNNNNGGGGG was it good.
[QUOTE=Del91;39162614]I never understood the Del sol, is it just a two seat hard top civic? It almost looks like it want's to be mid engined, but I don't think it is.[/QUOTE] Essentially a Civic / CR-X convertible. FF layout.
[QUOTE=technicsix;39162527]a del sol is an extremely cheap to drive, fun, reliable car. I have a civic eg which is almost the same exact thing, I've had no problems with it besides replacing the clutch and the driver side axle. I can vouch for their reliability. if it means anything my friend has a del sol vtec, with the b16 and he loves it. your dad doesnt really seem to know what he is saying imo[/QUOTE] Just as I expected. He just looked at the sporty design and said "OH FUCK, HERE COMES AN ANNOYING FLY... That thing is the death of my wallet! Look at it! It's a sporty car! That shit is designed to be a sponge!" (fuck you dad, I'd be the one paying for the gas, fuck you...) Does your friend's del sol and your civic consume a lot of gas? [editline]10th January 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=bradley;39162656]It's the third generation CRX. Just a shortened, two seater Civic, but that generation has a targa top.[/QUOTE] Technically, I could also get a CRX like yours, which is cheaper aswell. But I bet that would be YET another... Huh, I wonder what my dad would say... But then again, I don't quite like it. Theres just something I don't like about it, and every CRX is riced around here. No exceptions. (no really, ALL OF THEM)
I don't have a CRX.
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