Obama: Great president or greatest? - General

[QUOTE=Kagrenak;23559256]lol. That's the stupidest fucking thing I've ever heard, why would a secret organization leave symbolism of its self everywhere? When they were working on the nuclear bomb, the secrets were almost all stolen by the Russians, and they were better about secret keeping than this supposed Illuminati.[/QUOTE] Why would they do such a thing you ask? Because now even in children's cartoon's they have there symbolism. In the season 4 of the Sponge Bob Series let me get the vid. The Name of the Show is called Good Neighbors and it shows them practing the occult and have that within the show THEY WANT OUR FUCKING KIDS TO GROW UP KNOWING ABOUT THIS SHIT. AND THERE IS NOTHING YOU CAN SAY ABOUT THAT WHEN THEY PUT THIS SHIT IN A CARTOON. [URL]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MfWRUAOYLCk&NR=1[/URL] LOOK AT THIS SHIT AND TELL ME AM I STILL THE STUPID ONE.

[QUOTE=rotaivA;23559291]To mock God, their enemy. The Illuminati worship Satan, this is how they get their [i]worldly, mortal[/i] power. They end up in hell when they die. They mock God through symbolism- [b]God sees through the eyes of the people according to them[/b]- symbolism is placed to make Christians and God think they are all seeing and powerful, when they aren't. God sees the symbolism placed by the Satanists and is outraged, when he can do nothing about free will.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Copy_Cat;23559363]Why would they do such a thing you ask? Because now even in children's cartoon's they have there symbolism. In the season 4 of the Sponge Bob Series let me get the vid. The Name of the Show is called Good Neighbors and it shows them practing the occult and have that within the show THEY WANT OUR FUCKING KIDS TO GROW UP KNOWING ABOUT THIS SHIT. AND THERE IS NOTHING YOU CAN SAY ABOUT THAT WHEN THEY PUT THIS SHIT IN A CARTOON. [URL]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MfWRUAOYLCk&NR=1[/URL] LOOK AT THIS SHIT AND TELL ME AM I STILL THE STUPID ONE.[/QUOTE] [img]http://i29.tinypic.com/2a7fnlv.gif[/img]

come on man there has gotta be some aliens somewhere

[QUOTE=Copy_Cat;23559363]Why would they do such a thing you ask? Because now even in children's cartoon's they have there symbolism. In the season 4 of the Sponge Bob Series let me get the vid. The Name of the Show is called Good Neighbors and it shows them practing the occult and have that within the show THEY WANT OUR FUCKING KIDS TO GROW UP KNOWING ABOUT THIS SHIT. AND THERE IS NOTHING YOU CAN SAY ABOUT THAT WHEN THEY PUT THIS SHIT IN A CARTOON. [URL]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MfWRUAOYLCk&NR=1[/URL] LOOK AT THIS SHIT AND TELL ME AM I STILL THE STUPID ONE.[/QUOTE] lol. That's not an answer, but man you're entertaining in your insanity.

[QUOTE=Lambeth;23559373]come on man there has gotta be some aliens somewhere[/QUOTE] come on man there's gotta be some kind of supreme being somewhere

[QUOTE=rotaivA;23559360]Eat my dick, I'm a theorist, not a fucking super-religious, brainwashed nutjob. I'm partly Christian because of the same reason Atheists are Atheists- Believing in God is like believing in extra terrestrial life and the Big Bang. Neither have any signifigant, real proof presented, yet we both have some form of faith in them because we're insecure. [b]Don't turn this into an Atheist/Christianity debate thread, I'm just trying to make a point.[/b][/QUOTE] You're running your argument in a near-circle. [QUOTE=rotaivA;23559242]comfort* A lot of shit like that movie a few years back with the main villain being the Illuminati was put up as a strategic distraction to make the public make people who believe in something like the Illuminati, which were featured in a movie, stupid and crazy.?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=rotaivA;23559360]Eat my dick, I'm a theorist, not a fucking super-religious, brainwashed nutjob.[/QUOTE] A theorist who doesn't believe in fucking evidence. You have none other than some bullshit symbolism which is common because humans like basic shapes and things that look vaguely like us. [QUOTE=rotaivA;23559360] Believing in God is like believing in extra terrestrial life and the Big Bang. Neither have any signifigant, real proof presented, yet we both have some form of faith in them because we're insecure. [/quote] Except the Big Bang has lots of proof behind it, see Cosmic Microwave Background Radiation, and Extra-terrestrial life is at least plausible.

[QUOTE=rotaivA;23559360]Eat my dick, I'm a theorist, not a fucking super-religious, brainwashed nutjob. I'm partly Christian because of the same reason Atheists are Atheists- Believing in God is like believing in extra terrestrial life and the Big Bang. Neither have any signifigant, real proof presented, yet we both have some form of faith in them because we're insecure. [B]Don't turn this into an Atheist/Christianity debate thread, I'm just trying to make a point.[/B][/QUOTE] no, this pretty much is a religious debate. your whole fucking argument rests on the idea that god/satan exists and there is some fucking intergalactic battle between them or some shit you believe that there are filthy rich CEOs who believe in a fairy tales like satan and god? do you realize how ridiculous that sounds? okay look - i can't prove that god does not exist, but it doesn't take a genius to realize the bible is bullshit. what makes the bible any more true than the quran or any hindu scriptures? because you just happened to have been born in a judeo-christian country - that's it. mere location decided your religion.

[QUOTE=rotaivA;23559063]Yes. But Obama isn't anything, he's just a mindless puppet put into the white house by the Illuminati as a distraction while they do their work. Here's a good YouTube channel for people like you and me if you're interested: [url]http://www.youtube.com/farhank501/[/url] Check this video out if you're new to stuff like this. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYsy0QNa3K4[/media] The music industry exposed and Illuminated are also a few good series on his channel.[/QUOTE] Here's another previous statement. You think the Illuminati exists? Yet you deny you are a brain-washed nutjob as previous stated in the last page? Yet you're a 'Theorist'?

[QUOTE=sloppy_joes;23559330]Here's an idea: God is an idea, not to be taken literally, a parent-like figure who will right your wrongs and is always willing to accept you and listen to your problems. That's how I figure it, I'm an atheist, but I can see why people who want to be religious.[/QUOTE] That is the only hard thing I am able to believe that we evolved from ape's from adapting to the environment.

[QUOTE=Copy_Cat;23559363]Why would they do such a thing you ask? Because now even in children's cartoon's they have there symbolism. In the season 4 of the Sponge Bob Series let me get the vid. The Name of the Show is called Good Neighbors and it shows them practing the occult and have that within the show THEY WANT OUR FUCKING KIDS TO GROW UP KNOWING ABOUT THIS SHIT. AND THERE IS NOTHING YOU CAN SAY ABOUT THAT WHEN THEY PUT THIS SHIT IN A CARTOON. [URL]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MfWRUAOYLCk&NR=1[/URL] LOOK AT THIS SHIT AND TELL ME AM I STILL THE STUPID ONE.[/QUOTE] obviously in that spongebob clip they show that cultist behavior in a negative light. how does that help their cause? and it's completely suiting to your character to link a video to spongebob, would you like to discuss the finer points of scooby doo next?

[QUOTE=Copy_Cat;23559429]That is the only hard thing I am able to believe that we evolved from ape's from adapting to the environment.[/QUOTE] say that again but with a bit more sense.

[QUOTE=siberpredaht;23559412] what makes the bible any more true than the quran or any hindu scriptures? because you just happened to have been born in a judeo-christian country - that's it. mere location decided your religion.[/QUOTE] So fucking true.

[QUOTE=rotaivA;23559360]Eat my dick, I'm a theorist, not a fucking super-religious, brainwashed nutjob. I'm partly Christian because of the same reason Atheists are Atheists- Believing in God is like believing in extra terrestrial life and the Big Bang. Neither have any signifigant, real proof presented, yet we both have some form of faith in them because we're insecure. [b]Don't turn this into an Atheist/Christianity debate thread, I'm just trying to make a point.[/b][/QUOTE] Actually the big bang was proven when they caught a star burning out.

[QUOTE=Kagrenak;23559408]Except the Big Bang has [b]"lots of proof behind it"[/b], see Cosmic Microwave Background Radiation, and Extra-terrestrial life is at least plausible.[/QUOTE] Except Christianity has "[b]lots of proof behind it[/b]", see parts of the Christian Bible, and a superior being is at least plausible.

[QUOTE=Copy_Cat;23559429]That is the only hard thing I am able to believe that we evolved from ape's from adapting to the environment.[/QUOTE] your sentences are so incoherent it's almost embarrassing to read

[QUOTE=Copy_Cat;23559429]That is the only hard thing I am able to believe that we evolved from ape's from adapting to the environment.[/QUOTE] Why is that more difficult to believe in than some sentient being who can create things, predates matter, lives where we can't see him, whose only proof of existence is in a book written 2000 years ago, and is fucking with our lives constantly? [QUOTE=rotaivA;23559452]Except Christianity has "[b]lots of proof behind it[/b]", see parts of the Christian Bible, and a superior being is at least plausible.[/QUOTE] I'm going to write something down - I am a pink elephant. Is this true?

Yo, rot. Your argument is like a bony fist of a 13 year old you see? This forum is a brick wall. Can you see this? Now see this fist going into a brick wall and the fist gets bloodied and broken. That's your argument.

[QUOTE=CabooseRvB;23559426]Here's another previous statement. You think the Illuminati exists? Yet you deny you are a brain-washed nutjob as previous stated in the last page? Yet you're a 'Theorist'?[/QUOTE] I'm not brainwashed like the rest of society, I found for myself and taught myself about the Illuminati, when others decided to ignore it and continue with their fake lives. [editline]03:53AM[/editline] [QUOTE=siberpredaht;23559456]your sentences are so incoherent it's almost embarrassing to read[/QUOTE] I have to kind of agree [editline]03:53AM[/editline] [QUOTE=CabooseRvB;23559468]Yo, rot. Your argument is like a bony fist of a 13 year old you see? This forum is a brick wall. Can you see this? Now see this fist going into a brick wall and the fist gets bloodied and broken. That's your argument.[/QUOTE] cool if you don't like this thread get out, you've made your point and I obviously don't care about your opinion because I have no respect for someone who shows none to me when you first posted in this thread

[QUOTE=rotaivA;23559452]Except Christianity has "[B]lots of proof behind it[/B]", see parts of the Christian Bible, and a superior being is at least plausible.[/QUOTE] christianity has very, very little proof behind it. they can't even prove jesus christ existed, for christ's sake (no pun intended) and a superior being is not plausible; it is, again, a mere construct of your surroundings. your world view and your environment dictate to you that we couldn't have "come from nothing" and you fill in this ignorance of your creation with a supreme being? this is a silly attempt to turn your ignorance into intelligence and that is all it is. there is no logical reason why a "superior being" had to exist to create all this.

[QUOTE=CabooseRvB;23559426]Here's another previous statement. You think the Illuminati exists? Yet you deny you are a brain-washed nutjob as previous stated in the last page? Yet you're a 'Theorist'?[/QUOTE] It's practically impossible for a secret organization filled with powerful people not to exist, however it's probably nothing like the Illuminati is said to be like.

[QUOTE=rotaivA;23559452]Except Christianity has "[b]lots of proof behind it[/b]", see parts of the Christian Bible, and a superior being is at least plausible.[/QUOTE] Except the Bible, as well as the Book of Mormon, as well as the Qu'Ran, were written by men, not evidence. It is plausible, but barely, there's no reason one needs to exist. But based on processes we know formed the original spark of life on the planet we know that it could happen elsewhere.

[QUOTE=sloppy_joes;23559440]say that again but with a bit more sense.[/QUOTE] I HAVE A FUCKINGGG HARD TIMEEE BELIEVING INN EVOLUTION. Is that better?

And I've read the Bible, Old and New Testaments, quoting about miracles and grand incidents in where God played a good part in supposedly about 2000 years ago. How come in the recent centuries Humanity has not seen such acts repeated? No giant flood to purge the world of sin. No cities demolished by fire and brimstone because of it's sinful inhabitants. No gargantuan fortress walls falling from the endless screaming of soldiers before it. No intervention from God as 11 million people die from the Nazis and Millions more dying from countless other parties and people? God permits a lot of misery in this world. I think we're living Hell as we speak; relative to your beliefs.

[QUOTE=rotaivA;23559471] cool if you don't like this thread get out, you've made your point and I obviously don't care about your opinion because I have no respect for someone who shows none to me when you first posted in this thread[/QUOTE] Oh shit don't you know that guy works for the Illuminati!?!?

[QUOTE=sloppy_joes;23559502]It's practically impossible for a secret organization filled with powerful people not to exist, however it's probably nothing like the Illuminati is said to be like.[/QUOTE] There are a few, definitely, but nothing really unifying, because like everyone else, they're people who are divided among their beliefs.

[QUOTE=Copy_Cat;23559511]I HAVE A FUCKINGGG HARD TIMEEE BELIEVING INN EVOLUTION. Is that better?[/QUOTE] Yeah your last post was lacking some punctuation and some sentence flow. Why do you have a hard time? Fossil records and mitochondrial DNA should be enough to prove it.

[QUOTE=sloppy_joes;23559523]Yeah your last post was lacking some punctuation and some sentence flow. Why do you have a hard time? Fossil records and mitochondrial DNA should be enough to prove it.[/QUOTE] No, humans are proof of evolution. Infact, you could almost say we are the product of evolution.

[QUOTE=Copy_Cat;23559511]I HAVE A FUCKINGGG HARD TIMEEE BELIEVING INN EVOLUTION. Is that better?[/QUOTE] you have a hard time spelling a hard time at logical reasoning a hard time at comprehension a hard time at typing a hard time at punctuation to be honest, you just seem really stupid, so i'm not surprised your little mind can't grasp the concept of evolution my question is - is there anything you ARE good at?

[QUOTE=siberpredaht;23559491]christianity has very, very little proof behind it. they can't even prove jesus christ existed, for christ's sake (no pun intended) and a superior being is not plausible; it is, again, a mere construct of your surroundings. your world view and your environment dictate to you that we couldn't have "come from nothing" and you fill in this ignorance of your creation with a supreme being? this is a silly attempt to turn your ignorance into intelligence and that is all it is. there is no logical reason why a "superior being" had to exist to create all this.[/QUOTE] atheism has very, very little proof behind it. they can't even prove the big bang logically existed, for the sun's sake (no pun intended) and extra terrestrial life is not plausible; it is, again, a mere construct of your surroundings. your world view and your environment dictate to you that we couldn't be the only ones out here, and you fill in this ignorance of your creation with a simple made up theory by scientists? this is a silly attempt to turn your ignorance into intelligence and that is all it is. there is no logical reason why extra terrestrial life or a mere theory with little to no evidence backing it up could be considered a religion and gain this many followers.