• Obama: Great president or greatest?
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[QUOTE=rotaivA;23559471]I'm not brainwashed like the rest of society, I found for myself and taught myself about the Illuminati, when others decided to ignore it and continue with their fake lives.[/QUOTE] Get off your high horse
[QUOTE=Tetsmega;23559528]No, humans are proof of evolution. Infact, you could almost say we are the product of evolution.[/QUOTE] We are, I agree, however fossil records and mitochondrial DNA are measurable, you can't say "look at humans" and expect people to believe you.
[QUOTE=rotaivA;23559532]atheism has very, very little proof behind it. they can't even prove the big bang logically existed, for the sun's sake (no pun intended) and extra terrestrial life is not plausible; it is, again, a mere construct of your surroundings. your world view and your environment dictate to you that we couldn't be the only ones out here, and you fill in this ignorance of your creation with a simple made up theory by scientists? this is a silly attempt to turn your ignorance into intelligence and that is all it is. there is no logical reason why extra terrestrial life or a mere theory with little to no evidence backing it up could be considered a religion.[/QUOTE] The same behind the illumati.
[QUOTE=rotaivA;23559360]Believing in God is like believing in ... the Big Bang. Neither have any signifigant, real proof presented[/QUOTE] wrong where did you learn about the big bang?
[QUOTE=rotaivA;23559532]atheism has very, very little proof behind it. they can't even prove the big bang logically existed, for the sun's sake (no pun intended) and extra terrestrial life is not plausible; it is, again, a mere construct of your surroundings. your world view and your environment dictate to you that we couldn't be the only ones out here, and you fill in this ignorance of your creation with a simple made up theory by scientists? this is a silly attempt to turn your ignorance into intelligence and that is all it is. there is no logical reason why extra terrestrial life or a mere theory with little to no evidence backing it up could be considered a religion.[/QUOTE] i'm not defending extra terrestrial life you imbecile atheism isn't a belief, it is a lack of belief i'll take your imitation as a form of flattery, as a testament to my intellect, thank you.
Wonk I love your avatar
[QUOTE=rotaivA;23559532]atheism has very, very little proof behind it. they can't even prove the big bang logically existed, for the sun's sake (no pun intended) and extra terrestrial life is not plausible; it is, again, a mere construct of your surroundings. your world view and your environment dictate to you that we couldn't be the only ones out here, and you fill in this ignorance of your creation with a simple made up theory by scientists? this is a silly attempt to turn your ignorance into intelligence and that is all it is. there is no logical reason why extra terrestrial life or a mere theory with little to no evidence backing it up could be considered a religion and gain this many followers.[/QUOTE] lol you can't even think of your own argument. Except yes you can. [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosmic_background_radiation[/url] ET Life is plausible because of the way that abiogenesis happened, it's not confirmed, but it's plausible.. I don't go around living my life like it's true, though.
Holy shit your arguments are so full of holes that don't have any evidence to back anything up. Just opinions and theories. Just because it's plausible doesn't mean it's a fucking fact.
Don't fuck with science. Science is purely the continuous work to understand nature further and further. Religion is the understanding of our purpose here on a rock we call Earth. And to formerly explain phenomena around us. Now science overtakes it. Idiots like you twist and pull these two subjects together to try to justify your stupid rants to side with your delusional ideas.
It's silly people say aliens can't exist, as if life on earth is somehow unique. If it was done once, it can be done again.
[QUOTE=rotaivA;23558701] I'm not trolling, even though it may seem like it. It's funny how many people rushed to fucking defend their grand old president after I made this thread.[/QUOTE] Maybe because we're not defending him and just stating you're wrong?
[QUOTE=Tetsmega;23559577]Holy shit your arguments are so full of holes that don't have any evidence to back anything up. Just opinions and theories. Just because it's plausible doesn't mean it's a fucking fact.[/QUOTE] It's not even plausible, a conspiracy on that scale can't persist for more than a week.
[QUOTE=CabooseRvB;23559579]Don't fuck with science. Science is purely the continuous work to understand nature further and further. Religion is the understanding of our purpose here on a rock we call Earth. And to formerly explain phenomena around us. Now science overtakes it. Idiots like you twist and pull these two subjects together to try to justify your stupid rants to side with your delusional ideas.[/QUOTE] Worshipping science is almost as bad as worshipping religion. It's important to remember that science is just a series of deductions, we really don't know anything. They can't prove atoms or gravity exist, they've just deduced it. people forget that sometimes.
[QUOTE=Lambeth;23559566]Wonk I love your avatar[/QUOTE] thanks <3 ahahaha copy_cat's post at the top of the page almost did me in seriously why do so many people see this illuminati nonsense as being truthful
[QUOTE=sloppy_joes;23559599]Worshipping science is almost as bad as worshipping religion. It's important to remember that science is just a series of deductions, we really don't know anything. [B]They can't prove atoms[/B] or gravity exist, they've just deduced it. people forget that sometimes.[/QUOTE] [img]http://www.mizozo.com/images/item_images/3000/2210_src.jpg[/img] [url]http://www.mizozo.com/tech/08/2009/30/first-picture-of-a-molecule-taken.html[/url]
This is one of the most :tinfoil: topics i've seen in a while, and one of the more entertaining ones. Pretty blatantly insane/trolling, but still funny
[QUOTE=sloppy_joes;23559599]Worshipping science is almost as bad as worshipping religion. It's important to remember that science is just a series of deductions, we really don't know anything. They can't prove atoms or gravity exist, they've just deduced it. people forget that sometimes.[/QUOTE] Atoms are a great example because of it's history of becoming redefined through a long time period.
So explain that that1dude24
[QUOTE=sloppy_joes;23559599]Worshipping science is almost as bad as worshipping religion. It's important to remember that science is just a series of deductions, we really don't know anything. They can't prove atoms or gravity exist, they've just deduced it. people forget that sometimes.[/QUOTE] Except there are things you can prove without a doubt. It's not just deduction, either, it relies on a set of logical premises which are provable on a basic level.
I was adding on to your point.
[QUOTE=Kagrenak;23559628]Except there are things you can prove without a doubt. It's not just deduction, either, it relies on a set of logical premises which are provable on a basic level.[/QUOTE] However, they usually file that under philosophy, or they used to anyway.
[QUOTE=sloppy_joes;23559599]Worshipping science is almost as bad as worshipping religion. It's important to remember that science is just a series of deductions, we really don't know anything. They can't prove atoms or gravity exist, they've just deduced it. people forget that sometimes.[/QUOTE] Electron scanning/tunneling microscopes, Geiger counters, CRTs, etc beg to differ.
[QUOTE=sloppy_joes;23559625]So explain that that1dude24[/QUOTE] Edited with source. It's a picture of a molecule.
[QUOTE=sloppy_joes;23559625]So explain that that1dude24[/QUOTE] Atoms->DNA Chemicals->Cell organisms->Cells->Human Organs->Humans Derp
[QUOTE=that1dude24;23559642]Edited with source. It's a picture of a molecule.[/QUOTE] sorry molecule=/= atom. But a molecule is fine too.
[QUOTE=Xen Tricks;23559636]Electron scanning/tunneling microscopes, Geiger counters, CRTs, etc beg to differ.[/QUOTE] That's just deductions though, you haven't seen an atom, I'm not saying atoms don't exist. Old chemistry shows how people thought they knew what was happening, but really didn't. [editline]04:08AM[/editline] [QUOTE=jjsullivan;23559654]Atoms->DNA Chemicals->Cell organisms->Cells->Human Organs->Humans Derp[/QUOTE] I meant the source, derp derp
The chemical bonds present already gives proof that atoms exist.
[QUOTE=sloppy_joes;23559635]However, they usually file that under philosophy, or they used to anyway.[/QUOTE] No. Philosophy are things that can't be proven, but can be thought of in logical ways. Science is about things that can be experimentally proven or disproven, using falsifiable hypothesis and rigorous methodology.
[QUOTE=sloppy_joes;23559548]We are, I agree, however fossil records and mitochondrial DNA are measurable, you can't say "look at humans" and expect people to believe you.[/QUOTE] In a way the Bible exaggerated a lot of things (In my opinion.), making a lot of people think of it to be a religion that makes no sense. The Illuminati infiltrated Christianity a long time ago and filled it with lies and un-understandable verses and segments. For example, the Cross isn't a symbol of holiness or pureness- it's a symbol of death and cruelty, hatred and violence that Christ was hung on. Would you make a bloody hammer that was used to kill your mother with a plastic bit of fake brain on it into a symbol of your mother's life and work, and use it to remember her? No, you wouldn't, this is the same deal with the cross. Christians were corrupted into thinking it was something good and started wearing it, another way to mock God placed in Christianity by the Illuminati. Adam & Eve. A lot of Christians believe that they were only 2 humans, and somehow managed to create all of humanity. Impossible. Adam = all men. Eve = all women. Eve tasting the forbidden fruit after being tempted by a snake (Satan) = womankind discovering knowledge through sinful means. Adam & Eve naming all animals and plants in one day = All of humankind naming them over time. Kane & Abel = The discovery of murder through representation of two men committing it, being the children of no one specific, since Adam & Eve represent all of humankind. K&A only represent the violent, sinful side in this part. I could go on and on and on, but none of you will listen, and just misquote or misunderstand me and proceed make fun of me to increase your own rep, which is human nature - feeding yourselves even more lies to keep yourself happy.
[QUOTE=rotaivA;23559680]In a way the Bible exaggerated a lot of things (In my opinion.), making a lot of people think of it to be a religion that makes no sense. The Illuminati infiltrated Christianity a long time ago and filled it with lies and un-understandable verses and segments. For example, the Cross isn't a symbol of holiness or pureness- it's a symbol of death and cruelty, hatred and violence that Christ was hung on. Would you make a bloody hammer that was used to kill your mother with a plastic bit of fake brain on it into a symbol of your mother's life and work, and use it to remember her? No, you wouldn't, this is the same deal with the cross. Christians were corrupted into thinking it was something good and started wearing it, another way to mock God placed in Christianity by the Illuminati. [/QUOTE] Jesus died on the cross for all of Humanity. People wear the crucifix/cross because of that. You just compared a murder weapon to a cross on where Jesus died on. That doesn't really work. I don't see people wearing whips or a spearhead to commemorate Christ. I see a cross around their necks.
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