• Obama: Great president or greatest?
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What I was originally trying to say was take everything with a grain of salt, but whatever.
[QUOTE=rotaivA;23559680]feeding yourselves even more lies to keep yourself happy.[/QUOTE] buahah I just saw this. It's like he knows exactly what he's doing and saying we're doing it.
[QUOTE=sloppy_joes;23559840]What I was originally trying to say was take everything with a grain of salt, but whatever.[/QUOTE] with today's science everything is taken with a saltmine
[QUOTE=sloppy_joes;23559840]What I was originally trying to say was take everything with a grain of salt, but whatever.[/QUOTE] That's different than saying that nothing can be proven on a fundamental level. I can respect you saying that you should take everything with a grain of salt, but you sounded like a factual relativist asshole.
[QUOTE=sloppy_joes;23559840]What I was originally trying to say was take everything with a grain of salt, but whatever.[/QUOTE] Well that's a valid point, but not really applied to the sort of science you brought up. Atoms, an idea that's been around since about 500 BC and has concrete proof, not so much. String theory, p-branes, any really new theories that don't build much on old theories, yea.
[QUOTE=rotaivA;23559805]Would you look at the time. 4:18 AM I'll be back tomorrow morning to see if this hasn't been shitstormed even more or locked, goodnight.[/QUOTE] I hope God saw what you did. You committed the following sins. Swearing. Bearing false witness. Disrespect. Masturbating. You also made a very wrongful use of the name of God.
Why is this thread still going
[QUOTE=rotaivA;23559680]In a way the Bible exaggerated a lot of things (In my opinion.), making a lot of people think of it to be a religion that makes no sense. The Illuminati infiltrated Christianity a long time ago and filled it with lies and un-understandable verses and segments. For example, the Cross isn't a symbol of holiness or pureness- it's a symbol of death and cruelty, hatred and violence that Christ was hung on. Would you make a bloody hammer that was used to kill your mother with a plastic bit of fake brain on it into a symbol of your mother's life and work, and use it to remember her? No, you wouldn't, this is the same deal with the cross. Christians were corrupted into thinking it was something good and started wearing it, another way to mock God placed in Christianity by the Illuminati. Adam & Eve. A lot of Christians believe that they were only 2 humans, and somehow managed to create all of humanity. Impossible. Adam = all men. Eve = all women. Eve tasting the forbidden fruit after being tempted by a snake (Satan) = womankind discovering knowledge through sinful means. Adam & Eve naming all animals and plants in one day = All of humankind naming them over time. Kane & Abel = The discovery of murder through representation of two men committing it, being the children of no one specific, since Adam & Eve represent all of humankind. K&A only represent the violent, sinful side in this part. I could go on and on and on, but none of you will listen, and just misquote or misunderstand me and proceed make fun of me to increase your own rep, which is human nature - feeding yourselves even more lies to keep yourself happy.[/QUOTE] Symbolism is a powerful tool, however, most Christians don't understand the symbolism, and take everything in the Bible at face value.
I don't care who the president is.
[QUOTE=CabooseRvB;23559871]I hope God saw what you did. You committed the following sins. Swearing. Bearing false witness. Disrespect. Masturbating. You also made a very wrongful use of the name of God.[/QUOTE] uh oh ignorance in your post
[QUOTE=sonicrjk;23559875]Why is this thread still going[/QUOTE] Because even though the OP and his little buddy were fucking retarded, it led to some interesting side-discussions with other posters.
were they fucking retarded or were they genius trolls? neither, they were horrible trolls that people still fell for
[QUOTE=Kagrenak;23559854]That's different than saying that nothing can be proven on a fundamental level. I can respect you saying that you should take everything with a grain of salt, but you sounded like a factual relativist asshole.[/QUOTE] I wasn't sure what I was getting at, but a lot of people forget the things they accept as truths are actually just theories.
[QUOTE=Mexican;23559902]were they fucking retarded or were they genius trolls?[/QUOTE] It's difficult to tell between someone mocking an illuminati believer and a genuine illuminati believer so i think it's safe to assume they were genuine
[QUOTE=rotaivA;23559680]In a way the Bible exaggerated a lot of things (In my opinion.), making a lot of people think of it to be a religion that makes no sense. For example, the Cross isn't a symbol of holiness or pureness- it's a symbol of death and cruelty, hatred and violence that Christ was hung on. [/QUOTE] That actually makes sense now about the cross why it was illustrated in the racial motived movie the color purple why the kkk would burn the cross. To actually believe in the American Dream you'll have to see it with your eyes closed.
[QUOTE=sloppy_joes;23559911]I wasn't sure what I was getting at, but a lot of people forget the things they accept as truths are actually just theories.[/QUOTE] There are some things that are can be given provisional assent. "Evolutionists make no claim for perpetual truth, though creationists often do (and then attack us for a style of argument that they themselves favor). In science, “fact” can only mean “confirmed to such a degree that it would be perverse to withhold provisional assent.” I suppose that apples might start to rise tomorrow, but the possibility does not merit equal time in physics classrooms." -Steven Jay Gould.
[QUOTE=sloppy_joes;23559911]I wasn't sure what I was getting at, but a lot of people forget the things they accept as truths are actually just theories.[/QUOTE] But they're theories with hundreds to thousands of years of backing to them. There's a difference between thinking something is absolutely true and incapable of changing, or thinking something is true for all intents and purposes. No, technically, nothing except math and logic is ABSOLUTELY true, but it's true to the highest possible standard it could be, which is a lot more rigorous than the truths for the common man.
[QUOTE=sloppy_joes;23559911]I wasn't sure what I was getting at, but a lot of people forget the things they accept as truths are actually just theories.[/QUOTE] yikes you're one of those people scientific theory: [quote]In the sciences, a scientific theory (also called an empirical theory) comprises a collection of concepts, including abstractions of observable phenomena expressed as quantifiable properties, together with rules (called scientific laws) that express relationships between observations of such concepts. A scientific theory is constructed to conform to available empirical data about such observations, and is put forth as a principle or body of principles for explaining a class of phenomena.[1] A scientific theory is a type of deductive theory, in that its content (i.e. empirical data) could be expressed within some formal system of logic whose elementary rules (i.e. scientific laws) are taken as axioms. In a deductive theory, any sentence which is a logical consequence of one or more of the axioms is also a sentence of that theory.[2] In the humanities, one finds theories whose subject matter does not (only) concern empirical data, but rather ideas. Such theories are in the realm of philosophical theories as contrasted with scientific theories. A philosophical theory is not necessarily scientifically testable through experiment.[/quote] [QUOTE=Copy_Cat;23559933]To actually believe in the American Dream you'll have to see it with your eyes closed.[/QUOTE] and to believe this nonsense you need to have your eyes closed otherwise if you opened them you'd see how dog shit retarded they are!
[QUOTE=Xen Tricks;23559940]But they're theories with hundreds to thousands of years of backing to them. There's a difference between thinking something is absolutely true and incapable of changing, or thinking something is true for all intents and purposes. No, technically, nothing except math and logic is ABSOLUTELY true, but it's true to the highest possible standard it could be, which is a lot more rigorous than the truths for the common man.[/QUOTE] What's depressing is that most of even the more obscure research is proven to a much greater degree than in most courts of law.
[QUOTE=Copy_Cat;23559933]That actually makes sense now about the cross why it was illustrated in the racial motived movie the color purple why the kkk would burn the cross. To actually believe in the American Dream you'll have to see it with your eyes closed.[/QUOTE] ...What?
How old are you guys?
[QUOTE=sloppy_joes;23560029]How old are you guys?[/QUOTE] 14 and the OP is just tied up in conspiracy, nothing special.
[QUOTE=rotaivA;23558701][img]http://i788.photobucket.com/albums/yy164/charliethe443/troll.png?t=1279867958[/img] I'm not trolling, even though it may seem like it. It's funny how many people rushed to fucking defend their grand old president after I made this thread.[/QUOTE] You are so cool for trolling us, you're so clever
FDR was the greatest President-Made America A superpower,Lead us out a depression,ect
Why did a thread about Obama end up as an Illuminati conspyracy debate? That means...GARY IS AN ILLUMINATI AND GARRY'S MOD IS HIS TOOL TO BRAINWASH US GET YOU TINFIOL HATS! :tinfoil:
[QUOTE=rotaivA;23558366]- Troops still in Iraq and Afghanistan. - Health Care "Reform" bill didn't really do anything, at all. - Patriot Act still in effect. - Second greatest economical crisis in U.S. history since the Great Depression.[/QUOTE] Those can all be blamed on the previous government, or the current Republican opposition to repealing things such as the Patriot act.
[QUOTE=Cpt. Private;23561226]Why did a thread about Obama end up as an Illuminati conspyracy debate? That means...GARY IS AN ILLUMINATI AND GARRY'S MOD IS HIS TOOL TO BRAINWASH US GET YOU TINFIOL HATS! :tinfoil:[/QUOTE] Ragdoll posing is all a metaphor for how we're controlled like puppets by the illuminati, the inflator tool is like the misinformation they pump into our heads :rant:
And igniting tools shall demonstart how the thruth will burn!
It is strange that people blame Obama for the troops still being in Iraq since the president only have control over the Marines, the rest of the Armed Forces obey the Congress if i have understood it right.
Does anyone notice that the beginning of the economic crisis started with the Clinton Administration? And the Marines are just like any other branch they aren't the president's own little task force meaning that they are deployed just like the Army, Navy, and Air Force
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