• Why is Modern Art so Bad?
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This entire channel is basically propoganda and old white rich guys spouting their oppinions [video=youtube;W5o_KdvC1c8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5o_KdvC1c8[/video] [video=youtube;8EDW88CBo-8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8EDW88CBo-8[/video] [video=youtube;yfN2IvnIA4M]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfN2IvnIA4M[/video]
They call it "Prager University" even though it's not an academic institution
[QUOTE=woolio1;45910334]Congratulations, you didn't describe "modern art" there at all. You described performance art, and that's an entirely different category altogether. So... I think it's pretty safe to assume you don't actually know what modern art is. To that end, modern art isn't even a thing anymore. It's all contemporary art now, since these terms don't describe a single aesthetic or movement, but a period in art history. If you feel like reading up, here's a link to [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Art_periods"]Wikipedia's page on art periods[/URL]. Art is a far more varied thing than most people think, lumping everything made in the past 20 years into "modern art" does it a great injustice, and is just completely, objectively wrong.[/QUOTE] Except modern art is used as an general term for for the most part as art in our current time hence "modern" art even contemporary is an synonym to modern (don't try to even fucking strawman me with an misunderstanding). Early modern art was beautiful with artists experimenting in styles and skill. Plenty of contemporary art still adheres to that, but plenty of new experimental art is literal garbage or splashing paint on a wall and saying it invokes emotion. The guy even points out how this higher cultured mindset is with the painting apron being mistaken for art because they were told it was art. I can judge art and call it shit if i see it as shit, same with people saying its beautiful. But personally i only like art that there's skillful merit to said art then I and many people feel like its bad art.
[QUOTE=codemaster85;45910762]The guy even points out how this higher cultured mindset is with the painting apron being mistaken for art because they were told it was art.[/QUOTE] i don't get this example a painting apron can definitely be art, especially if the viewer is told that it is art
[QUOTE=codemaster85;45910762]literal garbage or splashing paint on a wall and saying it invokes emotion.[/QUOTE] and to some people it might; theres nothing wrong with that
[QUOTE=Hakita;45910918]i don't get this example a painting apron can definitely be art, especially if the viewer is told that it is art[/QUOTE] Because he was proving that people just say shit like "its beautiful/mysterious/brash/deep" to seem like they are cultured around other peers. You might as well label everything art if you want to be that damn vague with the word since EVERYTHING in the universe invokes some kind of feeling period. Art has to have some kind of distinction or its meaningless otherwise.
[QUOTE=codemaster85;45911268]Because he was proving that people just say shit like "its beautiful/mysterious/brash/deep" to seem like they are cultured around other peers. You might as well label everything art if you want to be that damn vague with the word since EVERYTHING in the universe invokes some kind of feeling period. Art has to have some kind of distinction or its meaningless otherwise.[/QUOTE] There are distinctions. You don't have to agree with them.
[QUOTE=codemaster85;45911268]Because he was proving that people just say shit like "its beautiful/mysterious/brash/deep" to seem like they are cultured around other peers.[/QUOTE] Given that they were his students, it was probably less about seeming cultured and more about answering the question given to them. It's not like they had the choice to express distaste, given the nature of the question.
The animations in the video are SO distracting. I can't recall a single point he tried to make.
[QUOTE=codemaster85;45910762]Except modern art is used as an general term for for the most part as art in our current time hence "modern" art even contemporary is an synonym to modern (don't try to even fucking strawman me with an misunderstanding). Early modern art was beautiful with artists experimenting in styles and skill. Plenty of contemporary art still adheres to that, but plenty of new experimental art is literal garbage or splashing paint on a wall and saying it invokes emotion. The guy even points out how this higher cultured mindset is with the painting apron being mistaken for art because they were told it was art. I can judge art and call it shit if i see it as shit, same with people saying its beautiful. But personally i only like art that there's skillful merit to said art then I and many people feel like its bad art.[/QUOTE] You absolutely can judge art, but it's entirely subjective. Whether or not you think it's art doesn't change the fact that, if the creator intended it to be art, it's art. Because that's how this sort of thing works. I can assume you're not a fan of Jackson Pollock...
As an art major who is minoring in art history: this guy is a butt.
[QUOTE=Waffle cones.;45912101]Holy shit, this channel is hysterical. [video=youtube;OFpYj0E-yb4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFpYj0E-yb4[/video][/QUOTE] when this got its own thread the vast majority of FP agreed with it lol
[QUOTE=Venezuelan;45912158]when this got its own thread the vast majority of FP agreed with it lol[/QUOTE] It does raise some decent points, it just comes to the wrong conclusion. The whole idea that certain interests and enthusiasms are discouraged or even punished in some cases is very real, but that isn't so much of a sexism issue as it is an issue faced by everyone. That being said, we shouldn't completely dismiss the points raised in the video just because they are presented as a 'War on boys'.
my avatar is modern art
Whew! Thank god there's Prager University around to make succinct 5 minute videos answering questions that have plagued academia for decades. Those poor trained professionals at accredited universities sure were on a bum track when they tried to analyse art in a holistic manner. Sure made them look like fools when the good Christian folks at Prager University figured out that art actually objectively follows Western social and cultural artistic norms at all points. I bet those native Americans feel stupid as they burn in hell for painting something that wasn't a Rembrandt now.
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