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[QUOTE=Trotsky;20288002]Interesting, tell me, the government needs to give special permission for organizations to grow weed. The government pretty much denies every single person who hints to be pro-weed, such as the Harvard Plant biology department. The FDA then concludes statements saying that weed has no real conclusive research and it's all up in the air. Is the science journal really all that fucking accurate. I mean, are these the same scientists who did the heath/tulare study?[/QUOTE] Science doesn't just publish American papers, you know. A scientific journal publishes papers from many scientists all over the world. It isn't some garden shed operation with the same three blokes doing all the experiments.

[QUOTE=Trotsky;20288018]I know no one who does it for aid.[/QUOTE] You honestly believe this man? So, what is your reason for doing it? To "relax"? That is for aid. And theres tons of healthy, non-lung ruining, non-endorphin draining ways to do this. And they are legal too. Give me the reason you smoke. And while you are typing it, try and think of a reason why it is so important to you, that you would sacrifice your heatlh, cognitive thinking, and risk getting in legal trouble for. I'd love to hear one bro. I've been the person who only smokes bud, to popping ecstasy nightly, to snorting coke and twising the glass dick (smoking meth). I know all there is to know about this shit. Gimmie a good reason to do a drug.

[QUOTE=beefsnorkel;20288271]You honestly believe this man?[/quote] yes [quote]To "relax"? That is for aid. And theres tons of healthy, non-lung ruining,[/quote] I can relax for other things. I just sometimes want to feel nice and relaxed. tell me, walters, what healthy activities do you do that make you relaxed? [quote]non-endorphin draining ways to do this. [/quote] well in that case, weed's ok with me. I mean, the whole it doesn't drain endorphins thing. [quote]And they are legal too.[/quote] Like Prostitution or gambling?! oh :c [quote]Give me the reason you smoke.[/quote] It's a fun thing to do once in a while. [quote]And while you are typing it, try and think of a reason why it is so important to you,[/quote] it's not really important to me. [quote]that you would sacrifice your heatlh, cognitive thinking, and risk getting in legal trouble for.[/quote] I'm not? And my friend gets it from other people, so I'm ok with the legal thing. [quote]I'd love to hear one bro.[/quote] well you see bro, you're just bro spouting bro smoke, bro, and bro, not the bro good bro kkind bro, you're bro bro bro bro bro bro. [quote] I've been the person who only smokes bud, to popping ecstasy nightly, to snorting coke and twising the glass dick (smoking meth).[/quote] i've smoked a plenty off bud, did ecstasy twice, snorted coke once and never did it again. what's your point? I think you're lying, mate [quote] I know all there is to know about this shit.[/quote] Your drug problems reperesnt everyone, right? [quote]Gimmie a good reason to do a drug.[/QUOTE] it's fun [QUOTE=lazyguy;20288266]Science doesn't just publish American papers, you know. A scientific journal publishes papers from many scientists all over the world. It isn't some garden shed operation with the same three blokes doing all the experiments.[/QUOTE] Then give me the citations.

It's funny, all they talk about is weed when it's one of the least dangerous (and in some cases, beneficial) in the world. Seems like they'd have more stuff on there to prevent kids from using heroin, meth, or crack. I don't even smoke anymore, but I'll still come to it's defense when you've got this kinda crap trying to act like it's a real big deal. 70% of Americans have smoked Marijuana at least one time in their life, so it's more like a right of passage than anything else.(Also, this statistic is responsible for why many have concluded that weed is a gateway drug)

If Marijuana is too dangerous to make legal, then we might as well make it illegal to drive cars, smoke cigarettes and drink alcohol. Making arguments saying it should be illegal from it being "unhealthy" is retarded. "Oh, It [B]MAY[/B] be linked to schizophrenia" Doesn't compare to [B]435,000 DEATHS[/B] per year from tobacco and [B]85,000 DEATHS[/B] per year from alcohol.

weed is bad and i can prove it

If you want to argue this shit, you're just being an idiot. [editline]11:58AM[/editline] Drugs, if legalized would be regulated similar to alcohol with age limits, certain shops dedicated to selling it, and possibly government enforced limits. This would prevent children from buying drugs, or at least make it damn hard. When I was 14, I could get any illegal drug, and I often did a number at that age too, but I couldn't get beer or alcohol unless I stole it from my parents. I didn't do that often, and thus I relied mostly on illegal drugs. I still managed to do well enough in school to go to university, and be able to do just about anything I want, so did my friends who also did as many, if not more drugs than me save from the few who were already idiots without drugs. If drugs were legalized, it would be much harder for things like that to happen. If drugs were legalized, it would be extremely profitable. Not to mention, it would be much better to start educating people on drugs rather than just saying "No, drugs are bad, you smoke weed you die!" bullshit like that is why a lot of kids start to do drugs. If you educate kids on why they're bad fewer kids would do them, if you give people the choice, I doubt many would do drugs except for the ones that know how to control their shit. The other issue a lot of people bring up is the legal problems behind violence. You don't seem to understand that drugs do not cause violence. Drugs are not in control of you. You are. I've been high on just about every drug under the sun. I know countless people who have as well. Not one of us have ever lost our cool. [b]The people that do lose their shit on drugs are naturally [i]idiots[/i] anyway.[/b] Why do you want to persecute them for being on drugs, and then committing a crime? That crime could have, and probably would have occurred anyways do the fact that an idiot committed it, why he was high matters is beyond the scope of the law. I can name 4 drugs that make you violent, and they only make you violent if you are naturally prone to bursts of anger, or violence. In this case, those four in terms of effectiveness in creating anger are 1. Alcohol. 2. PCP 3. Meth 4. Cocaine. No drug is better at causing fits of rage than alcohol. No drug is behind more sexually aggressive crimes, and no drug is behind more murders. You might just say that's because the other drugs are harder to get, but then, you'd be wrong again as we previously discussed. Not to mention, out of those 4, alcohol is not terribly expensive. As for health benefits under a system like the NHS, or any national health care system. The brilliant part about drugs being legalized would be the huge tax revenue that it would bring. The cost of producing the drugs would be covered, the excess could be funneled directly towards the health care system. Then, not to mention, health problems that are self inflicted are already covered. Does it not cover suicide attempts, accidents, smoking, bad diets, everything? If you want to bring that argument down, you have to establish a perfect baseline for the argument to start on. You can't assume that all the problems would be related to the drugs, so why would you not start saying "Oh no, you're slightly overweight, you suffer from asthma and a bad heart, but those are your problems for not taking perfect care of yourself over the years" and denying them coverage under it too? So, if the costs are covered, and other heath issues that are as idiotic to talk down are covered, what's the issue? There is none to my knowledge. Educating people about drugs would solve every fucking problem here, but you all probably read "Above the Influence" and take that shit as fact. It's a fact every drug has downsides, that's not up for debate, it's a fact every drug has problems, costs, and what not, but education would over come that quite easily.

[QUOTE=Trotsky;20288418]yes I can relax for other things. I just sometimes want to feel nice and relaxed. tell me, walters, what healthy activities do you do that make you relaxed? well in that case, weed's ok with me. I mean, the whole it doesn't drain endorphins thing. Like Prostitution or gambling?! oh :c It's a fun thing to do once in a while. it's not really important to me. I'm not? And my friend gets it from other people, so I'm ok with the legal thing. well you see bro, you're just bro spouting bro smoke, bro, and bro, not the bro good bro kkind bro, you're bro bro bro bro bro bro. i've smoked a plenty off bud, did ecstasy twice, snorted coke once and never did it again. what's your point? I think you're lying, mate Your drug problems reperesnt everyone, right? it's fun Then give me the citations.[/QUOTE] I don't care if you think I am lying man, there's a reason the drugs exist....because out there *gasp* some people do them! Its revolutionary, I know bro. You just want to feel nice and relaxed by smoking weed, but all the "creative" thoughts you get while you're high, you can't think of other ways to relax? I lift weights and exercise. It feels incredible after your done. And it keeps endorphins runnin' through you 24 hours a day. Btw, weed does drain your endorphins - look it up. I doubt you will though, because typing is a lot of work. Its much harder than smoking a bowl, amirite? Amirite bro? Btw bro, prositution and gambling are relaxing to you bro? Cool bro, cuz bro, I didnt know that, bro. You know what I'm sayin, bro? I have a feeling you're one of those people who, if told 2+2 = 4, you'd argue against it. You just won't agree with me, and I won't agree with you, so why bother bro? Lets just bro it up, bro.

Everyone on this website does drugs

[QUOTE=beefsnorkel;20290233]look it up. I doubt you will though,[B] because typing is a lot of work[/B]. Its much harder than smoking a bowl, [B]amirite?[/B][/QUOTE] pahahhaahahhahahahahahaha.

[QUOTE=beefsnorkel;20290233]I don't care if you think I am lying man, there's a reason the drugs exist....because out there *gasp* some people do them! Its revolutionary, I know bro. You just want to feel nice and relaxed by smoking weed, but all the "creative" thoughts you get while you're high, you can't think of other ways to relax? I lift weights and exercise. It feels incredible after your done. And it keeps endorphins runnin' through you 24 hours a day. Btw, weed does drain your endorphins - look it up. I doubt you will though, because typing is a lot of work. Its much harder than smoking a bowl, amirite? Amirite bro? Btw bro, prositution and gambling are relaxing to you bro? Cool bro, cuz bro, I didnt know that, bro. You know what I'm sayin, bro? I have a feeling you're one of those people who, if told 2+2 = 4, you'd argue against it. You just won't agree with me, and I won't agree with you, so why bother bro? Lets just bro it up, bro.[/QUOTE] You're an idiot, or a troll "bro". I smoke weed, I work out, I do everything you've said there, smoking weed doesn't stop you from doing anything else you idiot. Oh, an no, weed doesn't drain endorphins. Look it up rather than pull it out of your ass. He'd argue against you saying 2+2=5 because you're being wrong and arguing that you're not an idiot.

[QUOTE=Lazy Cake;20288655]It's funny, all they talk about is weed when it's one of the least dangerous (and in some cases, beneficial) in the world. Seems like they'd have more stuff on there to prevent kids from using heroin, meth, or crack. I don't even smoke anymore, but I'll still come to it's defense when you've got this kinda crap trying to act like it's a real big deal. 70% of Americans have smoked Marijuana at least one time in their life, so it's more like a right of passage than anything else.(Also, this statistic is responsible for why many have concluded that weed is a gateway drug)[/QUOTE] Id guess because its the most widley used "recreational" drug.

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;20290334]You're an idiot, or a troll "bro". I smoke weed, I work out, I do everything you've said there, smoking weed doesn't stop you from doing anything else you idiot. Oh, an no, weed doesn't drain endorphins. Look it up rather than pull it out of your ass. He'd argue against you saying 2+2=5 because you're being wrong and arguing that you're not an idiot.[/QUOTE] Give me the source where it says that over time, weed/any drug doesn't reduce the amount of endporphins naturally produced, to the point where its hard to be normally happy. I'd like to see it, as I have never seen anything like that. Thanks for your opinions on me, bro. You're a racist and you hate burger king, bro. Bro? [editline]08:23PM[/editline] [QUOTE=MattyGkid;20290306]pahahhaahahhahahahahahaha.[/QUOTE] Lawls

[QUOTE=beefsnorkel;20290233]Btw, weed does drain your endorphins - look it up..[/QUOTE] [url]http://www.google.com/search?q=weed+drains+your+endorphins[/url] wat.

[QUOTE=juke;20290488][url]http://www.google.com/search?q=weed+drains+your+endorphins[/url] wat.[/QUOTE] Could you post the website refuting what I have researched, bro? instead of google.

[QUOTE=beefsnorkel;20290566]Could you post the website refuting what I have researched, bro? instead of google.[/QUOTE] Could you post the study that says it? Weed, by extension THC, doesn't change your bodies ability to produce endorphins. No study has ever proved that to my knowledge. Other drugs do that, but THC has never done that.

I'm under the influence right now bro, and I can tell you're pretty tense, want me to roll you up one?

How do I multiquote?

[QUOTE=beefsnorkel;20290233]Btw, weed does drain your endorphins - look it up.[/QUOTE] Unfortunately in an argument, the burden of proof is on the person making the argument. But I couldn't find anything about endorphins and marijuana. [url]http://www.google.com/#hl=en&safe=off&q=marijuana%27s+effect+on+endorphin+&aq=f&aqi=&oq=&fp=79a46ede2c2a175d[/url] [editline]10:09PM[/editline] although I did find this [url]http://www.chacha.com/question/does-marijuana-do-anything-to-your-seratonin-and-endorphin-levels[/url]

One question: do the people who want medical marijuana want it for medical purposes or are they just smoking it for fun

[QUOTE=Hypershadsy;20291474]One question: do the people who want medical marijuana want it for medical purposes or are they just smoking it for fun[/QUOTE] For medical reasons.

[QUOTE=Hypershadsy;20291474]One question: do the people who want medical marijuana want it for medical purposes or are they just smoking it for fun[/QUOTE] One would assume both.

[QUOTE="mLbR";20291194]How do I multiquote?[/QUOTE] u cant weed is bad and i can prove it. look at my avatar. He started smoking and ended like this

[quote=aridpheonix;14905912][url=http://www.abovetheinfluence.com/]are you above the influence?[/url] [img]http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd97/aridpheonix/abthei-schizo.png?t=1240972439[/img] we all know what drugs are, alcohol and all that jazz. Doing all of those things are wrong and you shouldn't ever try drugs because they are addicting and they kill you. Now, one of the more famous drugs we all hear about on facepunch is marijuana, and as a chronic user, i know a lot about it, and therefore can pick out the facts and fiction behind the biased abovetheinfluence.com. What's on this site? [b]test your brain to see how pot is making you schizophrenic![/b] [img]http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd97/aridpheonix/abthei-dulledsensescopy.png?t=1240972547[/img] don't do weed, as it dulls your senses. You guys all know, food has almost no taste, music is always bleh, beverages just loose their pizazz, etc, when you smoke weed. [img]http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd97/aridpheonix/abthei-bubble.png?t=1240972710[/img] i forgot to mention, when you smoke weed, it makes you really sad guys. [b]the life of a stoner[/b] the life of a stoner, a realistic observation of the lifes of two stoners, it's very informational. [url=http://www.abovetheinfluence.com/stoners/default.aspx]click here to go to the interactive videos and quizzes![/url] [b]learn some facts about marijuana, and other drugs like ex and heroine![/b] these facts go by ([b]facts on site[/b], unbiased research/experienced opinion) marijuana: -[b]marijuana is addictive. More teens are in treatment with a primary diagnosis of marijuana dependence than for all other illicit drugs combined. [/b] this is blatantly untrue, i'm sad to say, marijuana is habitual, and only that. There is not one proven case of somebody going through physical withdrawals from not having thc in their system. -[b]lowered motivation.[/b] true wee. -[b]sleeplessness[/b]. Oh, c'mon now. -[b]aggression[/b]. "don't mess with jake tonight, man. He smoked three joints and six bowls, now he is raging mad at everything he sees." "raging mad? Yeah, maybe at my pantry." -[b]studies show that approximately one in ten (12.7%) of fatal car accident victims test positive for thc (the active ingredient in marijuana).[/b] little do most people who read this know, thc is only active in making you high for a couple hours, but stays in your bloodstream for atleast 3 weeks, and can last for up to 6. So this study is completely unstable because probably only 1% of the people were actually still high. I'd write about the other drugs, but i don't know most about them, and shrooms aren't very prevalently mentioned. There's so many more things on this website to explore! [highlight]attn mods: How does one go about requesting a poll? I would like one simply asking if you are above the influence: Yes/no. Thankya[/highlight][/quote] now list more useless websites!!!

[QUOTE=lazyguy;20286019]Response to what[/QUOTE] The argument that I posted at the top of that page. [QUOTE=lazyguy;20286019]I did post some but apparently scientists are wrong and one of the most respected journals on Earth is paid off by DA GOVAMENT who have a vendetta against stoners because if marijuana was legal then the government could tax it or something.[/QUOTE] No one is arguing about the credibility of the articles. My response was that the articles you posted don't make any major point, which you have yet to refute. [editline]05:31PM[/editline] [QUOTE=Newbienice99;20282401]I wish there was a legit unbiased study. I have no idea who's actually right because everyone fucking skews the truth.[/QUOTE] Watch this video. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1NggzEkltM[/media] [editline]05:36PM[/editline] [QUOTE=beefsnorkel;20290233] I lift weights and exercise. It feels incredible after your done. And it keeps endorphins runnin' through you 24 hours a day. Btw, weed does drain your endorphins - look it up. I doubt you will though, because typing is a lot of work. [/QUOTE] Not true. Weed doesn't imitate or trick the brain into creating more pleasure chemicals. It increases the cannabinoids that are already present in your body, increasing the "refresh rate" of your thoughts and physical sensations. That's why it doesn't force your body to feel good, unlike drugs like meth or cocaine. [QUOTE=beefsnorkel;20288271]Give me the reason you smoke. And while you are typing it, try and think of a reason why it is so important to you, that you would sacrifice your heatlh, cognitive thinking, and risk getting in legal trouble for.[/QUOTE] Thinking from a different viewpoint every once in a while is valuable. It's an enjoyable feeling with little to no mental or physical health consequences.

[QUOTE=franz;20292751]No one is arguing about the credibility of the articles. My response was that the articles you posted don't make any major point, which you have yet to refute.[/QUOTE] 1. Look in that "good points, bad points, unknown" thread and read the posts by those who have discovered the conspiracy where thousands of others know there's none. 2. "Weed is bad"

[QUOTE=lazyguy;20293454]1. Look in that "good points, bad points, unknown" thread and read the posts by those who have discovered the conspiracy where thousands of others know there's none. 2. "Weed is bad"[/QUOTE] Again, the main people hoisting up the weed is bad flag is usually anti-drug companies payed off by the government. Such as DARE. These studies done by scientists usually end up being complete nonsenseHea. For example: heath/tulare study. and why are studies that show weed to be harmless usually recalled and destroyed? (schafer report, Nixon/reagan/bush junior's purge of university studies)

[QUOTE=Trotsky;20288418]Then give me the citations.[/QUOTE] [url]http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/gca?SEARCHID=1&FULLTEXT=cannabis&FIRSTINDEX=0&hits=10&RESULTFORMAT=&gca=179%2F4076%2F920&gca=179%2F4075%2F803&gca=192%2F4245%2F1249&gca=309%2F5732%2F222c&sendit.x=28&sendit.y=10[/url] And here's an interesting case: Normally, THC harms neurons, but in people with Alzheimers it can help save them. [url]http://www.nature.com/scientificamericanmind/journal/v20/n5/full/scientificamericanmind0909-17.html[/url]

[QUOTE=Ordinos;20292082]u cant weed is bad and i can prove it. look at my avatar. He started smoking and ended like this[/QUOTE] Not funny but, nice try.

[QUOTE=Trotsky;20293665]Again, the main people hoisting up the weed is bad flag is usually anti-drug companies payed off by the government. Such as DARE. These studies done by scientists usually end up being complete nonsenseHea. For example: heath/tulare study. and why are studies that show weed to be harmless usually recalled and destroyed? (schafer report, Nixon/reagan/bush junior's purge of university studies)[/QUOTE] Well see I wouldn't know about that because I don't live in America. Yet it's still banned here, and in most countries. Funny how that works.