[QUOTE=Thlis;14906766]I'll totally trust that non biased argument posted by a highly pro marijuana member who has complained about people criticizing him but then criticizes them.[/QUOTE]
You wanted examples. If you really care, watch the videos. If you don't, then I really couldn't care less.
I don't complain about people's choice to not consume marijuana.. I care when people spread facts that are complete and udder bullshit.
I believe in the freedom of privacy. If you don't want to smoke, good for you!! I encourage that, but the minute you infringe upon smokers by spreading lies about marijuana, that's where I get irritated.
[QUOTE=High Air Flow;14906776] The government has no say in what you can, and cannot put in your body.[/QUOTE]
Hell yes they do.
[QUOTE=Hunterbrute;14906778]Bible is not historical documents.
Welcome to my ignored list for a non intelligent response.[/QUOTE]
Oh gawd he thought I was serious :v:
Atheists are just as worse as Christan's these days I swear
[QUOTE=Figgis Fiddis;14906793]
Only one's legal in the US.
Careful with that pot, it looks [i]dangerous[/i].[/QUOTE]
But the police took away my Flame thrower.
[QUOTE=ArchAngel;14906694]Well then your science is not science.
The general population of teens includes teens that are mentally ill, both undiagnosed and diagnosed. Whether or not the condition is recognized, it's still there, and so are the predispositions toward drugs that I talked about. I also said that the drugs can react badly. They can react badly in anyone who is mentally ill, young or old.
Of course dependence is something we have in everyday life. The difference is that, while coffee gives a bit of a boost, marijuana inebriates, makes people drunk and high.
A better analogy would be to liken weed to alcohol.
Both get you drunk. The people that use them all the time to get drunk are drunks.
What's going on there is emotional dependence. It is incredibly strong, in some cases as strong as physical addiction. In a damaged person, in someone depressed who wants to escape, in someone who doesn't know anything else, the allure of getting drunk on weed or alcohol is incredibly alluring because it means you don't have to feel. So they become drunks, addicted to the feeling. Their body is not addicted - their mind is addicted.
Do you see how I am not speaking about healthy, well-functioning individuals? In an ideal world you can still drink or smoke and still get on with your life. But a drunk is a drunk and it doesn't matter what's going into your body. It has the same effect, and when you use it all the time, you are a drunk.[/QUOTE]
I'm not talking about mentally ill people, nor is this website. If you can find on that site somewhere, anywhere where it says "we are talking about mentally ill people" then i will give you my shoes.
And what. Marijuana makes you high, alcohol makes you drunk. There's a huge difference. It's not a very great analogy, likening weed to alcohol, because alcohol is very addicting, and weed is less addicting than caffeine.
By the way,I'm saying dependence on marijuana is not as serious as you think, because being a stoner doesn't mean inevitable liver sclerosis, brain damage, etc, it just means you will be ordering delivery too much.
[QUOTE=Thlis;14906806]Hell yes they do.
A lot of people are idiots, you have to spell out everything.[/QUOTE]
if u dunt smuk weed ur a faget
[QUOTE=Thlis;14906766]I'll totally trust that non biased argument posted by a highly pro marijuana member who has complained about people criticizing him but then criticizes them.[/QUOTE]
Where did i complain about people criticizing me? (if you are talking to me)
[QUOTE=aridpheonix;14906845]Where did i complain about people criticizing me? (if you are talking to me)[/QUOTE]
I meant loompa
[QUOTE=Saxon;14906815]Atheists are just as worse as Christan's these days I swear[/QUOTE]
No.
[QUOTE=Thlis;14906854]I meant loompa[/QUOTE]
Read my post.
[QUOTE=Athena;14905943]A site with a vendetta against drugs says stupid biased things. Colour me unsurprised.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=RJ102;14906855]No.[/QUOTE]
Only the ones that complain at people for religion.
Quiet atheists I agree with you on.
...
How did we get onto religion?
[QUOTE=Thlis;14906865]Only the ones that complain at people for religion.
Quiet atheists I agree with you on.[/QUOTE]
Perhapes I should rephrase what I said "Facepunch Atheists Are just as worse as Christans these days"
[QUOTE=Saxon;14906886]Perhapes I should rephrase what I sad "Facepunch Atheists Are just as worse as Christans these days"[/QUOTE]
That might be agreed on.
[QUOTE=Thlis;14906701]Give me reasons why it should be legalized besides HAR HAR FEELS GOOD, and half assed chav arguments as to how it could save the economy.[/QUOTE]
Reasons:
1. Illegal drug trades would no longer be funded.
2. Is it easier to get alcohol or weed? Weed. The legalization of it would make it harder to get for minors (under 21)
3. People are killed, robbed, and beaten over weed whilst trying to purchase it off of the 'streets.' Legalization would end the risky need to go and buy that.
4. Exposure to a drug dealer (from buying weed) is usually exposure to more drugs, therefore the gateway theory.
[QUOTE=Thlis;14906865]How did we get onto religion?[/QUOTE]
FP Rule: Turn every debate into religion.
[QUOTE=Thlis;14906806]Hell yes they do.
A lot of people are idiots, you have to spell out everything.[/QUOTE]
but telling people not to take this or that because it's simply "bad, makes people fucking insane, and demonizes the person and destroys entire families"; is fucking in itself "fucking stupid", and you know it.
[QUOTE=aridpheonix;14906896]Reasons:
1. Illegal drug trades would no longer be funded.
2. Is it easier to get alcohol or weed? Weed. The legalization of it would make it harder to get for minors (under 21)
3. People are killed, robbed, and beaten over weed whilst trying to purchase it off of the 'streets.' Legalization would end the risky need to go and buy that.
[b]4. Exposure to a drug dealer (from buying weed) is usually exposure to more drugs, therefore the gateway theory.[/b][/QUOTE]
The "gateway theory" is about as bullshit as you can get.
[QUOTE=Figgis Fiddis;14906918]The "gateway theory" is about as bullshit as you can get.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, i know. But that's why people say weed is a gateway drug, when its just your dealer that is the gateway. And everyone that smokes has a dealer, correlationnnn.
[QUOTE=Figgis Fiddis;14906918]The "gateway theory" is about as bullshit as you can get.[/QUOTE]
a small percentage of cannabis/cigarettes/alcohol users go on to use shit like coke, meth, etc the heavy shit
[QUOTE=aridpheonix;14906939]Yeah, i know. But that's why people say weed is a gateway drug, when its just your dealer that is the gateway. And everyone that smokes has a dealer, correlationnnn.[/QUOTE]
You wouldn't really have a dealer if you grow. Sure, you are your own dealer, but that's bullpucky.
[QUOTE=Craptasket;14906953]a small percentage of cannabis/cigarettes/alcohol users go on to use shit like coke, meth, etc the heavy shit[/QUOTE]
Just like how I got hooked on cigarettes from my coffee dealer. Man THAT was bad.
[QUOTE=Craptasket;14906953]a small percentage of cannabis/cigarettes/alcohol users go on to use shit like coke, meth, etc the heavy shit[/QUOTE]
A small percentage of people who don't smoke weed die in horrific ways.
See? Correlation = Causation.
[QUOTE=Craptasket;14906953]a small percentage of cannabis/cigarettes/alcohol users go on to use shit like coke, meth, etc the heavy shit[/QUOTE]
And they get the drugs from their dealer, or people their dealer knows. So if pot was legalized and they never met the dealer then there would be no, or limited access to harder drugs.
[QUOTE=Loompa Lord;14906975]Just like how I got hooked on cigarettes from my coffee dealer. Man THAT was bad.[/QUOTE]
I go jerk off at rollercoasters everyday becuase I'm addicted to my own natural dopamine.
now I inhale Airdusters, LOL LRzpogrkokbgtoskindabggsf d
[QUOTE=aridpheonix;14906896]Reasons:
1. Illegal drug trades would no longer be funded.
[B]Right, worse and worse drugs would be trafficed[/B]
2. Is it easier to get alcohol or weed? Weed. The legalization of it would make it harder to get for minors (under 21)[B]
W:hat? [/B]
3. People are killed, robbed, and beaten over weed whilst trying to purchase it off of the 'streets.' Legalization would end the risky need to go and buy that.
[B]No, they would only be killed for worse and worse drugs.[/B]
4. Exposure to a drug dealer (from buying weed) is usually exposure to more drugs, therefore the gateway theory.
[B]People would just to move to worse and worse drugs[/B]
[/QUOTE]
My rebuttal is basically:
This wouldn't stop drug sales, it would only divert them to worse and worse things.
[QUOTE=Thlis;14906806]Hell yes they do.[/QUOTE]
Then I hope every government official is decapitated, and fed to necrophiliacs.
[QUOTE=aridpheonix;14905912]So [i][b]this study is completely unstable[/b][/i] because probably only 1% of the people were actually still high. [/QUOTE]
She's gonna bloooowwww!
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