• JoJo's Bizarre Adventure: You can't escape now! You super retard!
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[QUOTE=Zeos;48396667]I have come to the realization of why people have a problem with KC. It is because even if you know how it works it doesn't change the fact that it is fucking stupid and has to be given nonsense extra abilities to even pose a threat to the cast of part 5. If it worked as described any stand user with half a brain could have destroy the villain[/QUOTE] Same as Za Warudo. King Crimson is pretty much a weaker version of it.
[QUOTE=NotAName;48398535]Same as Za Warudo. King Crimson is pretty much a weaker version of it.[/QUOTE] [sp]I thought KC was like an upgraded version of The World. It seems like he has the benefits of time stop with the added skipping at the cost of using more energy[/sp]
I'm late but that stroheim english voice I want someone to dub kermit over it
Is there a dubbed version of the Anime on Crunchyroll, or is it only subbed?
It's only subtitles on CrunchyRoll.
[QUOTE=gokiyono;48398845][sp]I thought KC was like an upgraded version of The World. It seems like he has the benefits of time stop with the added skipping at the cost of using more energy[/sp][/QUOTE] [sp]ZA WARUDO can kill people in stopped time, KC can't. Outside of bullshit or surprise, nothing can defeat ZA WARUDO. Most fights will simply not happen if you are within 5 (then 9, then potentially more) second sprinting range of an olympian body builder vampire. You will die before doing anything. It also has Star Platinum strength and speed so bullets will likely not hit. Only a surprise 1 shot attack (like Polnareff attempted) can have a chance to kill him. That and stupid stands like Made In Heaven, Gold Experience Requiem, etc. In KC vs The World, if DIO sees him there, he will stop time, run to him, and punch him to death before time resumes. If he doesn't see him, KC will use the skip to get behind him and do a surprise attack, and either just before or right after it connects, DIO will stop time and punch him to death.[/sp]
[QUOTE=NotAName;48401166][sp] In KC vs The World, if DIO sees him there, he will stop time, run to him, and punch him to death before time resumes. If he doesn't see him, KC will use the skip to get behind him and do a surprise attack, and either just before or right after it connects, DIO will stop time and punch him to death.[/sp][/QUOTE] Youre not taking into account [sp]epitaph[/sp] and if his [sp]time skip skips time stops[/sp], it's really a question of who can abuse the other's cooldown
[QUOTE=Hakita;48401276]Youre not taking into account [sp]epitaph[/sp] and if his [sp]time skip skips time stops[/sp], it's really a question of who can abuse the other's cooldown[/QUOTE] [sp]He also can't predict things that happen while time is stopped (he can't do anything). He CAN skip stopped time, but what I'm saying is that if DIO goes first, Diavolo dies. If Diavolo skips first, all he gets is a surprise attack. I don't think he can kill DIO in that time before he stops time again, both because he is extremely durable and because The World's stats are better.[/sp] [editline]qwe[/editline] [sp]Metallica, which is admittedly a very strong stand, beat Diavolo and would have killed him if Aerosmith wasn't around. I don't think Metallica has a chance in a fight against DIO.[/sp]
[QUOTE=NotAName;48401318][sp]He also can't predict things that happen while time is stopped (he can't do anything). He CAN skip stopped time, but what I'm saying is that if DIO goes first, Diavolo dies. If Diavolo skips first, all he gets is a surprise attack. I don't think he can kill DIO in that time before he stops time again, both because he is extremely durable and because The World's stats are better.[/sp][/QUOTE] what do you base these assumptions on? also, dio's advantage comes from him being a vampire, not from his stand itself, so you cant use his vampiric powers as a point in a straight up KC vs TW comparison KC and TW are more or less equal for different reasons
[QUOTE=Hakita;48401368]what do you base these assumptions on? also, dio's advantage comes from him being a vampire, not from his stand itself, so you cant use his vampiric powers as a point in a straight up KC vs TW comparison KC and TW are more or less equal for different reasons[/QUOTE] [sp]If time is stopped and KC didn't already decide to skip that period of time, he is dead. He can't dodge things that happen instantly. The World has A durability, power and speed, and beat Star Platinum who also has A power and speed. King Crimson has E durability, but A power and speed. In a fair fight (as in, not a surprise attack) without abilities, The World beats Star Platinum and therefore also King Crimson. Because of his extremely low durability, this could take like a second's worth of punching before he dies (see: everyone who ever got ora ora'd). With a surprise attack, it's unclear if DIO will recover before he dies or not, because it's also unclear how much punishment The World can take as Jotaro mostly punched DIO and not his stand, and when he killed his stand he attacked him in his weak spot which was caused from DIO being damaged. My understanding of Epitaph with KC is that he can see what is going to happen and decide if to delete that period of time, but I don't know how he will perceive time stop, especially if he would die during it. In either case, DIO can just fight KC normally and win in a normal stand fight, and save his time stop for when KC suddenly disappears and is probably behind him. Can he use Epitaph to dodge all of The World's attacks and counterattack him at the same time? I don't think it's physically possible for a human, seeing as ORAORA/MUDAMUDA is basically everywhere at once. He would have to use his time skip to try something like that, which is when DIO can stop time.[/sp]
Also the fact that you could... just shoot them from a distance? KC is something you could get around so easily, even with [sp]prediction[/sp]
[QUOTE=NotAName;48401530][sp]If time is stopped and KC didn't already decide to skip that period of time, he is dead. He can't dodge things that happen instantly. The World has A durability, power and speed, and beat Star Platinum who also has A power and speed. King Crimson has E durability, but A power and speed. In a fair fight (as in, not a surprise attack) without abilities, The World beats Star Platinum and therefore also King Crimson. Because of his extremely low durability, this could take like a second's worth of punching before he dies (see: everyone who ever got ora ora'd). With a surprise attack, it's unclear if DIO will recover before he dies or not, because it's also unclear how much punishment The World can take as Jotaro mostly punched DIO and not his stand, and when he killed his stand he attacked him in his weak spot which was caused from DIO being damaged. My understanding of Epitaph with KC is that he can see what is going to happen and decide if to delete that period of time, but I don't know how he will perceive time stop, especially if he would die during it. In either case, DIO can just fight KC normally and win in a normal stand fight, and save his time stop for when KC suddenly disappears and is probably behind him. Can he use Epitaph to dodge all of The World's attacks and counterattack him at the same time? I don't think it's physically possible for a human, seeing as ORAORA/MUDAMUDA is basically everywhere at once. He would have to use his time skip to try something like that, which is when DIO can stop time.[/sp][/QUOTE] in a straight up fight the world beats king crimson, but whoever activates their stand power first will be the winner, since i doubt TW's user can react to, shake off the confusion and still have the time to yell out "the world" before KC's swing hits like i said, the discussion was about TW vs KC, not Diavolo vs Dio, which is a match Dio would most likely win
[QUOTE=Zeos;48401721]Also the fact that you could... just shoot them from a distance? KC is something you could get around so easily, even with [sp]prediction[/sp][/QUOTE] Star Platinum had no problem with stopping bullets from extremely close range. If he hears a bullet being fired he could probably deflect it, even without time stop. [QUOTE=Hakita;48401730]in a straight up fight the world beats king crimson, but whoever activates their stand power first will be the winner, since i doubt TW's user can react to, shake off the confusion and still have the time to yell out "the world" before KC's swing hits like i said, the discussion was about TW vs KC, not Diavolo vs Dio, which is a match Dio would most likely win[/QUOTE] Fair enough. Related: [sp]How will Epitaph show a time stop during which he dies? Will he show him that he is alive and then immediately a corpse?[/sp]
[QUOTE=Zeos;48401721]Also the fact that you could... just shoot them from a distance? KC is something you could get around so easily, even with [sp]prediction[/sp][/QUOTE] TW is super fast and can stop bullets, KC can [sp]predict bullets, as shown with aerosmith and sex pistols in the race for the arrow[/sp]
But diavolo's fist is super strong iirc, so if he gets eh surprise I think he can cleave DIO in two
[QUOTE=Hakita;48401753]TW is super fast and can stop bullets, KC can [sp]predict bullets, as shown with aerosmith and sex pistols in the race for the arrow[/sp][/QUOTE] KC has the same speed and destructive power as TW. [sp]I think KC also has confusion to his advantage[/sp]
[QUOTE=MyBumBum;48402230]But diavolo's fist is super strong iirc, so if he gets eh surprise I think he can cleave DIO in two[/QUOTE] [sp]Same as Star Platinum, which ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA'd him for a good while and he mostly made it out alive. I don't know what would happen if it attacks The World and not DIO, though it has an A in durability.[/sp]
[QUOTE=Devil Traitor;48399395]It's only subtitles on CrunchyRoll.[/QUOTE] Anywhere like crunchyroll that has it dubbed?
[QUOTE=Primigenes;48405197]Damn I remember when I bought it and got to the page with the Josuke and crew cameo and I'm like "Am I gonna see Araki draw Josuke's face in his new style? Holy shit, this is gonna be so cool" Only to meet the back of Josuke's big ass head[/QUOTE] That cheeky cunt did it on purpose, I swear m8.
I love these Part 6 scans, but shit like this really takes me out of reading [img]http://i.imgur.com/8Xq0DJt.png[/img] It's like they didn't proofread at all. Sometimes just letters are missing, sometimes it's whole words. Fucking Stand users, man. [editline]9th August 2015[/editline] [img]http://i.imgur.com/cw1XkNf.png[/img] drat!
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I have a question, how is the Part 7 translation? I'm going to run out of colored scans real fast on that one, so past that point the translation is the main draw. If it's Bucciarati again then it's going to be a real drag.
[QUOTE=Demeschik;48412279]I have a question, how is the Part 7 translation? I'm going to run out of colored scans real fast on that one, so past that point the translation is the main draw. If it's Bucciarati again then it's going to be a real drag.[/QUOTE] Part 5 is the only part left with bad translations.
still reading stone ocean, did anyone notice that [sp]Versace's backstory is almost completely lifted from "Holes"?" I mean "the shoes fell from the sky" thing is literally the same as Stanley Yelnats like what the hell araki?[/sp]
[QUOTE=ThatCrazyGmanV2;48415889]still reading stone ocean, did anyone notice that [sp]Versace's backstory is almost completely lifted from "Holes"?" I mean "the shoes fell from the sky" thing is literally the same as Stanley Yelnats like what the hell araki?[/sp][/QUOTE] Remember that arc where he royally ripped off Memento? Why are you still surprised?
[QUOTE=Demeschik;48415953]Remember that arc where he royally ripped off Memento? Why are you still surprised?[/QUOTE] I've never seen memento, I don't watch many movies [editline]9th August 2015[/editline] that was where [sp]Jolyne had a limited short term memory right?[/sp]
[QUOTE=Demeschik;48412279]I have a question, how is the Part 7 translation? I'm going to run out of colored scans real fast on that one, so past that point the translation is the main draw. If it's Bucciarati again then it's going to be a real drag.[/QUOTE] It seems great to me.
It made me feel genuine sadness when [sp]Gyro died[/sp] so I guess the scans are p good
okay, so I just finished part 6... so okay lemme get this straight [sp]pucci accelerates time to the point where the entire universe ends and in jojo's time is a loop, so kinda like the time machine episode of futurama except made in heaven ALSO gave everyone some level of insight into their own future as pucci thought that the ability to know and embrace your future is the definition of "heaven" except he is outside of that group and can change his own destiny. Pucci changes his destiny by accidentally giving empirio weather report and dies... creating the alternative universe[/sp] so part 7 [sp]is set in the past of this new universe, but all the jojos are new jojos because of like Johnny and Jojolion (haven't read those parts yet so yeah)[/sp] am I close?
Sort of [sp]The SBRverse is not the universe created by Made In Heaven. As the manga states, all currrently living people got moved onto the new universe, thus really meaning that the only things that changed were the people who died during the events of part 6, afaik. Even if I'm wrong about the details of what MiH changed exactly, the fact that all living creatures got moved into the new universe still evidences the fact that part 7/8 are entirely separate from 1-6. There is a totally different Morioh with a totally different Higashikata family that would not be there in the post-MiH universe. Presumably, Josuke and his mother from part 4 would be alive at the time of Made in Heaven, so if the universe in JoJolion is the same as the one created by Made in Heaven, why aren't they there? It's kinda confusing to a binge reader, rather than someone who read JoJo as it came out, seeing something reset the universe and then immediately going into a story about a new universe. But one thing to remember was that Part 7 wasn't a new JoJo part at first. It was just called Steel Ball Run, and it sure as hell looked like Gyro Zeppeli was the main character.[/sp]
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