In my area, speed = amphetamine, meth or crystal = methamphetamine and coke is cocaine. Yeah, we're rather simple people.
[QUOTE=Dan The Man;20160865]In my area, speed = amphetamine, meth or crystal = methamphetamine and coke is cocaine. Yeah, we're rather simple people.[/QUOTE]
Simplicity is the best ;).
we called meth crystal/speed/G. why did we call it G? I have no clue.
[QUOTE=Luke510;20162146]we called meth crystal/speed/G. why did we call it G? I have no clue.[/QUOTE]
[b]g[/b]odamn i have so much fucking energy right now
Holy shit. My mum died last night, and i was on speed all day today just to help me think rationally.
It worked to say the least. but i'm coming down now and stuff.
Don't take speed/base if you are planning to eat, sleep or have sex (or wank). All of these things will be difficult.
[QUOTE=Keeshond dog;20171211]Holy shit. My mum died last night, and i was on speed all day today just to help me think rationally.
It worked to say the least. but i'm coming down now and stuff.[/QUOTE]
I know you must be having a hard time. But speed is the last thing you should be having if you need to think rationally. A mind is most rational when under the influence of no drugs. I can imagine speed may make it easier to deal with, but the comedown will make things three times as hard.
the hardest thing to do is to go through the hardest times sober.
Just some information: amphetamine and methamphetamine has the exact same effects. The only thing the extra methyl molecule is doing is making it go to the brain faster and prolongs the biological half life. The only reason for methamphetamine to have a more worse reputation is because we use amphetamine as medicine for example ADD/ADHD and Asperger patients.
I never get a come down with stims.
It sounds weird I know but yeh, I was doing like 290 miligrams of adderall a night for a little bit no real tolerence or addiction or anything. If it is adderall its heaven just if you get the extended release grind the beads up and take it.
You will thank me later.
Btw Im blunted,drunk,and on a ton of ritalin (so it forms ethylphenidate in my liver which is even stronger than cocaine I think if it memory serves me right.) so Im geeken.
My comedown was minimal, i barely felt anything and i slept like a baby.
[QUOTE=Watchmaker90;20184029]Just some information: amphetamine and methamphetamine has the exact same effects. The only thing the extra methyl molecule is doing is making it go to the brain faster and prolongs the biological half life. The only reason for methamphetamine to have a more worse reputation is because we use amphetamine as medicine for example ADD/ADHD and Asperger patients.[/QUOTE]
No, meth affect serotonin system, while amphetamine almost doesn't touch it. It's quite big difference.
[QUOTE=kobilica;20188075]No, meth affect serotonin system, while amphetamine almost doesn't touch it. It's quite big difference.[/QUOTE]
Methamphetamine even metabolizes into amphetamine after ingestion. Is it really that hard to google?
[url]http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_the_difference_between_methamphetamine_and_amphetamine[/url]
[url]http://www.drug-testing-kits.com/drug-tests-faq.html[/url]
[url]http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080106190609AAAoUPR[/url]
[url]http://www.experts123.com/q/what-is-the-difference-between-methamphetamine-and-amphetamine.html[/url]
[QUOTE=Watchmaker90;20189080]Methamphetamine even metabolizes into amphetamine after ingestion. Is it really that hard to google?
[B][url]http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_the_difference_between_methamphetamine_and_amphetamine[/url][/B]
[url]http://www.drug-testing-kits.com/drug-tests-faq.html[/url]
[B][url]http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080106190609AAAoUPR[/url][/B]
[url]http://www.experts123.com/q/what-is-the-difference-between-methamphetamine-and-amphetamine.html[/url][/QUOTE]
Lol'd hard
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such credible sources
[QUOTE=Aaronn;20189198]Lol'd hard
[editline]08:54AM[/editline]
such credible sources[/QUOTE]
So you're either suggesting technical and concrete answers from what seems to be from some who knows, are pure made up lies, or that the sites itself is a conspiracy of some kind?
[QUOTE=Watchmaker90;20189080]Methamphetamine even metabolizes into amphetamine after ingestion. Is it really that hard to google?
[url]http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_the_difference_between_methamphetamine_and_amphetamine[/url]
[url]http://www.drug-testing-kits.com/drug-tests-faq.html[/url]
[url]http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080106190609AAAoUPR[/url]
[url]http://www.experts123.com/q/what-is-the-difference-between-methamphetamine-and-amphetamine.html[/url][/QUOTE]
Yeah, because only amphetamine has effect on brains, meth is inactive right?
lololololol
[QUOTE=kobilica;20189597]Yeah, because only amphetamine has effect on brains, meth is inactive right?
lololololol[/QUOTE]
4 - 6% is converted I recently discovered. (Maybe, sources vary)
Edit: I think your sarcasm turned out to be an oxymoron because the majority of sources say methamphetamine is inactive. Methamphetamine enters the brainbloodbarrier faster and then many experts hypothesis's it is metabolized to amphetamine.
[QUOTE=kobilica;20188075]No, meth affect serotonin system, while amphetamine almost doesn't touch it. It's quite big difference.[/QUOTE]
I thought the increase in potency with the methyl-group made that axiomatic...
Both drugs affect norepinephrine, dopamine and serotonin levels in our synaptic gaps. Therefore the effects are exactly the same, only different in potency. Ask an expert or a physician if you don't believe me. Just don't bother me with more irrelevant, irrational and illogical attempts at feeling successful on an internet board with sarcasm and internet slang just to make one part of your life worth living.
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I found a logical coherency, finally. Methamphetamine is the parent drug of amphetamine, being methylated simply means being water soluble, which in turn means it enters the body's cell-membranes quicker. Afterwards it is metabolized to amphetamine via cytochrome P450 2D6.
The extra potency of methamphetamine is because it breaks down into amphetamine after passing non-methylated barriers. Note that the intensity of a drug is dependent on how fast it reaches the brain. The amphetamine metabolite peaks at 12 hours, this would explain the longer half life of methamphetamine.
I'm pretty sure methamphetamine gives a lot more Euphoria than just amphetamine from what I've heard.
[QUOTE=Dan The Man;20191284]I'm pretty sure methamphetamine gives a lot more Euphoria than just amphetamine from what I've heard.[/QUOTE]
That's because it's methylated. It's like making amphetamine reacting faster to our synaptic patterns. But the effects are still identical.
I quote myself:
[QUOTE=Watchmaker90;20189800]Note that the intensity of a drug is dependent on how fast it reaches the brain.[/QUOTE]
Doesn't that extra methyl group make it more soluble in fat, thus passing BBB easier?
I still stand at point that meth releases more serotonin than amphetamine.
[QUOTE=kobilica;20191564]Doesn't that extra methyl group make it more soluble in fat, thus passing BBB easier?[/QUOTE]
No, methylated means water soluble.
[QUOTE=kobilica;20191564]I still stand at point that meth releases more serotonin than amphetamine.[/QUOTE]
Well, technically it doesn't, they are identical. What I am trying to explain is that methamphetamine reaches the brain faster, and therefore has more intensity to its rush. This also includes the activity of serotonin, dopamine and norepinephrine.
So as amphetamine the non-methylated substance enters, the intensity is much lower, but equal in time.
So you are saying it's like with heroin --> brains --> morphine?
[QUOTE=kobilica;20191940]So you are saying it's like with heroin --> brains --> morphine?[/QUOTE]
Almost.
Sorry that I pissed you off, but I still have red somewhere that meth releases much more serotonin. But maybe just because of the reason/s you listed.
Don't, man. I know everyone says they can take it, and not get addicted, but is it worth the risk? is it, for that matter, worth the money?
Buy weed, and with any change you have left, buy the most obscure movie or game you can find.
I've ordered 0.5grams of MDPV. Whilst not speed, it's described as speed without euphoria. I plan to use it when I have revision cramming.
[QUOTE=Watchmaker90;20184029]Just some information: amphetamine and methamphetamine has the exact same effects. The only thing the extra methyl molecule is doing is making it go to the brain faster and prolongs the biological half life. The only reason for methamphetamine to have a more worse reputation is because we use amphetamine as medicine for example ADD/ADHD and Asperger patients.[/QUOTE]
You can get prescription meth.
[QUOTE=catch33;20229558]You can get prescription meth.[/QUOTE]
Indeed. It's prescribed for severe anorexia and occasionally for narcolepsy.
EDIT: I mean obesity.
[QUOTE=Dan The Man;20230169]Indeed. It's prescribed for severe anorexia and occasionally for narcolepsy.[/QUOTE]
And extreme cases of ADD/ADHD
It's called Desoxyn
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Oh, also for extreme cases of obesity.
[QUOTE=Anubis678;20230199]
Oh, also for extreme cases of obesity.[/QUOTE]
Oops, that's what I meant. Doh. Anorexics being prescribed an appetite suppressant? olol.
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