The First Presidential Debate - Bart Simpson vs Lisa Simpson - THUNDERDOME - General

I like how you could tell when, during the debates, Trump was shitting the bed, just by looking at Hillary's expression when she's smiling. She has an "angry" smile, and a "I can't believe he's saying this shit, this is so great" smile.

Have Trumps supporters incorporated his terrible performance in this debate into his game of 10D Connect Four yet? Clearly he was just pretending to be bad to make fun of Crooked Hillary.

[QUOTE=TheFilmSlacker;51117148]It's hard not to be "biased" when the candidate is constantly avoiding questions. [editline]27th September 2016[/editline] Especially considering his behavior in the primaries.[/QUOTE] It also doesn't help he's the only one of the two candidates to never exactly tell us what his policy is. Of fucking course the guy who has been vague and genuinely useless the entire campaign season is going to be given more targeted questions about how and why he is doing stuff. All we've really gotten out of the orange buffoon until now is; "well I'm going to make it great again. that's right folks. make. america. great. again. we're gonna do it. we're gonna make this country great once more". When you're dealing with that depth of policy, you're going to get targeted questions more often so your opponent who has actually explained their platform can rebut or contrast against.

[QUOTE=smurfy;51116911][media]https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/780796008854876160[/media] Trump seems to genuinely believe he won the debate - meaning he's unlikely to change his strategy for the second one?[/QUOTE] Fk didnt me to disagree phone sucks for updoots. I cant wait until the actual polls come out. The look on his face will be priceless.

[QUOTE=greasemunky;51117143]I think you should take your inane conspiracy theories back to /pol/ where they belong. Every time Trump fails at something people like you always blame someone else. Trump failed and failed hard during this debate on his own but no, god forbid you should accept that.[/QUOTE] I personally disagree with the image I posted, I wanted to see what people outside of a hugbox like /r/the_donald or /pol/ think of it.

[QUOTE=Helix Snake;51117189]I like how you could tell when, during the debates, Trump was shitting the bed, just by looking at Hillary's expression when she's smiling. She has an "angry" smile, and a "I can't believe he's saying this shit, this is so great" smile.[/QUOTE] [t] https://d25891dthrp607.cloudfront.net/image/upload/game-of-thrones.6.10.1199000.151.gif [/t] Reminded me of this.

[QUOTE=-Chief-;51117209]Have Trumps supporters incorporated his terrible performance in this debate into his game of 10D Connect Four yet? Clearly he was just pretending to be bad to make fun of Crooked Hillary.[/QUOTE] The game of 13D Hungry Hungry Hippos is getting out of hand. There's only so much one person can do purposefully knowing that whatever the outcome they will win. This isn't anime god dammit, there are no 17 layer deep gambit roulette plans going on irl.

[QUOTE=-Chief-;51117209]Have Trumps supporters incorporated his terrible performance in this debate into his game of 10D Connect Four yet? Clearly he was just pretending to be bad to make fun of Crooked Hillary.[/QUOTE] He was just being sarcastic during the whole debate.

[QUOTE=TheFilmSlacker;51117248]Which is clearly a great strategy in the first debate when there's over 80 million people watching. Seriously though, all I've seen is that he "demolished" her with no clear reason how. [B]It honestly feels like dealing with a fucking cult.[/B][/QUOTE] Well, rather late to discover that. Better late then never, then.

[QUOTE=Svinnik;51117216]I personally disagree with the image I posted, I wanted to see what people outside of a hugbox like /r/the_donald or /pol/ think of it.[/QUOTE] My bad, it's just annoying how his followers reject reality in favor of absurdity.

[QUOTE=Svinnik;51117216]I personally disagree with the image I posted, I wanted to see what people outside of a hugbox like /r/the_donald or /pol/ think of it.[/QUOTE] It's pretty clear Trump left himself open to those probes. If he didn't want to be so heavily scrutinized his answers should have been more focused and clear, and he should have refrained from talking over everyone. Let's not forget that Trump said he thought he was treated fairly right after the debate as well.

[QUOTE=-Chief-;51117209]Have Trumps supporters incorporated his terrible performance in this debate into his game of 10D Connect Four yet? Clearly he was just pretending to be bad to make fun of Crooked Hillary.[/QUOTE] I've actually seen somebody say that he lost [I]on purpose[/I] to make Hilary look tougher so he could be meaner during the next debate, the Wimp-Lo school of debate.

[QUOTE=-Chief-;51117209]Have Trumps supporters incorporated his terrible performance in this debate into his game of 10D Connect Four yet? Clearly he was just pretending to be bad to make fun of Crooked Hillary.[/QUOTE] the people building Trump up are just reminding me more and more how legitimately fucking stupid he is. every time i worry and think "maybe he really does have a plan," he finds some new way to fuck up and do the opposite of what i was worried he would do. and every time, despite everything he's done and said up to now, i'm still just as surprised the 56th time i realize that he's a fucking idiot as i was the first time.

[QUOTE=TheFilmSlacker;51117248]Which is clearly a great strategy in the first debate when there's over 80 million people watching. Seriously though, all I've seen is that he "demolished" her with no clear reason how. It honestly feels like dealing with a fucking cult.[/QUOTE] That's usually how it goes with debates, most people who already endorsed just see what they want to believe. These are typically to swing the undecided or people on the edge like never-trump and bernouts to vote for them. Trump did a pretty bad job at selling his presidency, various experts are expecting a comfortable gain for Clinton in the polls in a week.

[QUOTE=1legmidget;51117443]It's pretty clear Trump left himself open to those probes. If he didn't want to be so heavily scrutinized his answers should have been more focused and clear, and he should have refrained from talking over everyone. Let's not forget that Trump said he thought he was treated fairly right after the debate as well.[/QUOTE] I don't know much about his past, but I doubt he faced many job/college interviews when he was growing up. If you're vague about an answer any good interviewer will zoom in on that so you better be prepared with a response. You can use it to your advantage, but Trump clearly didn't last night.

[QUOTE=TheFilmSlacker;51117248]Seriously though, all I've seen is that he "demolished" her with no clear reason how. It honestly feels like dealing with a fucking cult.[/QUOTE] It shouldn't really be a surprise that people turn a blind eye to the terrible shit he says. This is the same person who said [I]"I could stand in the middle of fifth avenue and shoot somebody, and I wouldn't lose any voters"[/I] without losing support, among many, many other seemingly damning statements. His supporters accept absolutely any nonsense that comes out of his mouth.

[QUOTE=TheFilmSlacker;51117248]Seriously though, all I've seen is that he "demolished" her with no clear reason how. It honestly feels like dealing with a fucking cult.[/QUOTE] It's called a cult of personality for a reason. What's interesting is that his wasn't established through media control and propaganda, but by his own fanbase. They've essentially indoctrinated themselves into believing that Trump is the perfect human being. What's sad is when something happens that threatens their reality and the cracks begin to show. The time Trump made statements friendly to LGBT people, The_Donald had to put up a disclaimer assuring users that Trump was not a faggot.

Hillary wants another assault weapon ban (because that [del]did absolutely nothing[/del] worked so well the first time) and Trump approves of stop and frisk... holy fuck why.

[QUOTE=AlbertWesker;51118003]Hillary wants another assault weapon ban (because that [del]did absolutely nothing[/del] worked so well the first time) and Trump approves of stop and frisk... holy fuck why.[/QUOTE] The democrats seriously need to drop the gun ban shit from their platform, they'd get more voters that way.

[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;51118020]The democrats seriously need to drop the gun ban shit from their platform, they'd get more voters that way.[/QUOTE] they'd be mostly swapping one set of voters for one of a similar size doing that, i don't think they'd gain any advantage doing it

I just heard a pundit on Fox News defending Trump's comment about not paying taxes as a smart thing because "his money would have been squandered by the government."

So are there any polls that weren't brigaded by the trumpling patrol besides CNN? Or any other statistics on how Hillary is doing agaisnt Trump now?

[QUOTE=hoodoo456;51118090]So are there any polls that weren't brigaded by the trumpling patrol besides CNN? Or any other statistics on how Hillary is doing agaisnt Trump now?[/QUOTE] no big polls yet but: [media]https://twitter.com/NateSilver538/status/780672636871385088[/media] [media]https://twitter.com/NateSilver538/status/780760738554060800[/media] [media]https://twitter.com/NateSilver538/status/780868780310274048[/media]

[media]https://youtu.be/lP2c0rDEFCk[/media] Vic Berger edit is out

I think what's most interesting about this debate is the setup for the second one. Trump is faced with an unique problem, he can either be himself and lose the election, or come in with a radically different rhetoric for the second debate at the risk of alienating hardliners. Hillary's performance on this debate wasn't exactly stellar either, but she's at no risk of losing should Trump continue to be Trump.

[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;51117875]It's called a cult of personality for a reason. What's interesting is that his wasn't established through media control and propaganda, but by his own fanbase. They've essentially indoctrinated themselves into believing that Trump is the perfect human being. What's sad is when something happens that threatens their reality and the cracks begin to show. The time Trump made statements friendly to LGBT people, The_Donald had to put up a disclaimer assuring users that Trump was not a faggot.[/QUOTE] Trump could have curled up into a ball and started crying, and people would still say he won and applaud his 13 dimensional twiddly-sticks

[QUOTE=Mingebox;51118368]Trump could have curled up into a ball and started crying, and people would still say he won and applaud his 13 dimensional twiddly-sticks[/QUOTE] I wonder what the dimension count is going to be at before the president is elected.

[QUOTE=smurfy;51113973][media]https://twitter.com/KailiJoy/status/780602851039055873[/media][/QUOTE] Here it is! [media]https://twitter.com/HuffingtonPost/status/780783077148721152[/media]

So I'm a little late to the party, only just had time to watch it all. Does anyone seriously believe Trump won the debate; or hell, even a single discussion that took place in it?

[QUOTE=Riller;51118612]So I'm a little late to the party, only just had time to watch it all. Does anyone seriously believe Trump won the debate; or hell, even a single discussion that took place in it?[/QUOTE] trump supporters seem to earnestly believe that he won it