The First Presidential Debate - Bart Simpson vs Lisa Simpson - THUNDERDOME
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[QUOTE=King of Limbs;51115046]God I love that Trump is going to win. Goodbye crooked Hillary and your anti-deplorable fans. You'll thank us when your rich.
Trump won, get over it.[/QUOTE]
they just keep crawling out of the woodwork dont they
[QUOTE=mchapra;51114998]considering my family lives in the US and is muslim, that's the scariest part to me[/QUOTE]
Um okay tho but how long until you try to sharia me, huh tough guy??
Honestly don't know how ya'll summon the patience to keep smiling and explaining through all the ridiculous, misleading political rhetoric surrounding your faith, culture, and ethnic background. My uncle is a Turkish Muslim, and his humor for our current political atmosphere is growing thin. I can't speak for you, but I know he's getting pretty fuckin' tired of being Trump's bogeyman.
[QUOTE=duckmaster;51115037]Well it came down to the votes, and people didn't vote for Bernie, you can cry rigged all you want, but bernie still didn't get the peoples vote.[/QUOTE]
Lets not forget all the voter suppression shall we.
[QUOTE=King of Limbs;51115046]God I love that Trump is going to win. Goodbye crooked Hillary and your anti-deplorable fans. You'll thank us when your rich.
Trump won, get over it.[/QUOTE]
WOo, okay
[QUOTE=archangel125;51115026]Throwing some speculation out there: There's a non-zero chance Trump fires some of his campaign staff tomorrow or over the coming week if his rating in the polls suffers. The man's nature will not allow him to accept responsibility, he'll want to pass the blame on to someone else.
If the second debate is as disastrous for him as the first was, I'd say the chances of that happening go up dramatically.[/QUOTE]
There's a reason he churns through campaign managers and strategists so quickly. The man lives in his own dimensional plane, where things are different and strange. Trying to explain the reality of a situation to him is seen as a personal failure if it doesn't jive with what Trump perceives through the veil of shadows.
[QUOTE=MoralSupport;51115076]VP Debate next week. Kaine vs Pence:
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/O3JVc4P.png[/IMG][/QUOTE]
I don't really know anything about Kaine, so I have no idea how he will perform at this debate.
It's entirely possible that Trump will do better in, or maybe even win one or both of the remaining debates. Candidates who fuck up tend to try harder next time. But I'll be surprised if he ever overtakes Clinton in the polling averages after tonight.
[QUOTE=smurfy;51115090]It's entirely possible that Trump will do better in, or maybe even win one or both of the remaining debates. Candidates who fuck up tend to try harder next time. But I'll be surprised if he ever overtakes Clinton in the polling averages after tonight.[/QUOTE]
I'll wait till I see those averages before I relax. With Breitbart and /pol/ bots skewing online polls, you never know.
I'm just now catching up on the debate, is that heavy rock music that starts playing when Trump gets out of his SUV part of the original broadcast or just something this YouTube channel added in for laughs?
[QUOTE=King of Limbs;51115046]God I love that Trump is going to win. Goodbye crooked Hillary and your anti-deplorable fans. You'll thank us when your rich.
Trump won, get over it.[/QUOTE]
To quote your candidate:
WRONG
[QUOTE=duckmaster;51115037]Well it came down to the votes, and people didn't vote for Bernie, you can cry rigged all you want, but bernie still didn't get the peoples vote.[/QUOTE]
I'm not crying anything and it was rigged per open admission, because it can be.
[QUOTE=King of Limbs;51115046]God I love that Trump is going to win. Goodbye crooked Hillary and your anti-deplorable fans. You'll thank us when your rich.
Trump won, get over it.[/QUOTE]
I understand some people have a hard time coming to terms with reality, but the writing's on the wall for Trump my dude.
Tonight about 30 progressives got mad because Gary 'Pay4Road' Johnson still got shafted.
At least thats what I've been seeing so far on my social media stuff.
Nice Journalists we got at the debates
[url]http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=4f7_1474937837[/url]
I came here to get FP's view on the debate but all I got was like 20 pages of people dog piling a trump supporter.
Neat?
[QUOTE=KommradKommisar;51115181]I came here to get FP's view on the debate but all I got was like 20 pages of people dog piling a trump supporter.
Neat?[/QUOTE]
Well tbh the trump supporters are staying off the boards tonight
The Hivemind is hungry tonight after 3 weeks of a sick Hildawg
[QUOTE=smurfy;51115090]It's entirely possible that Trump will do better in, or maybe even win one or both of the remaining debates. Candidates who fuck up tend to try harder next time. But I'll be surprised if he ever overtakes Clinton in the polling averages after tonight.[/QUOTE]
I'll probably wait to pass judgement on the debate polls until some actual polling starts rolling in - if it doesn't change their actual voter polls, it doesn't matter anyway.
Personally I'd be surprised if Clinton let's her guard down, and considering Trump thought he could just wing this debate, why should next time be any different? I mean, any rational human being would prepare for the next one after this fiasco, but those people would probably also have prepared for the first [I]presidential debate.[/I]
Not a Trump supporter but this has confirmed my view that Trump is the lesser evil.
If he is so incompetent he cant even debate properly, he would be easily contained by other branches of government.
Hillary on the other hand has major backing which once in the white house, can be a serious threat to said checks and balances and would be competent enough to make it happen.
As someone said, they are both corrupt. It is now a matter of who is most likely going be removed from office from here out. Mr Black's joke of throwing the monkey out of a plane with a parachute and making the first person that monkey makes contact with president comes to mind.
What a shitty thing but it is what it is.
[QUOTE=Guriosity;51115234]Not a Trump supporter but this has confirmed my view that Trump is the lesser evil.
If he is so incompetent he cant even debate properly, he would be easily contained by other branches of government.
[/QUOTE]
That is absolutely dumb!
USA, hell the world, absolutely can not afford for US to have a weak president as crises are looming all over the world.
[QUOTE=CroGamer002;51115268]That is absolutely dumb!
USA, hell the world, absolutely can not afford for US to have a weak president as crises are looming all over the world.[/QUOTE]
I bet he gets removed from office quickly. He is old enough to have a heart attack. The office does age people very quickly and he is getting up there in age. The job will kill him.
[QUOTE=Guriosity;51115234]Not a Trump supporter but this has confirmed my view that Trump is the lesser evil.
If he is so incompetent he cant even debate properly, he would be easily contained by other branches of government.
Hillary on the other hand has major backing which once in the white house, can be a serious threat to said checks and balances and would be competent enough to make it happen.
As someone said, they are both corrupt. It is now a matter of who is most likely going be removed from office from here out. Mr Black's joke of throwing the monkey out of a plane with a parachute and making the first person that monkey makes contact with president comes to mind.
What a shitty thing but it is what it is.[/QUOTE]
Because the president has no role in our government whatsoever.
[QUOTE=Guriosity;51115271]I bet he gets removed from office quickly. He is old enough to have a heart attack. The office does age people very quickly and he is getting up there in age. The job will kill him.[/QUOTE]
Are you serious? I thought more of your critical thinking skills than this, dude.
[QUOTE=Guriosity;51115271]I bet he gets removed from office quickly. He is old enough to have a heart attack. The office does age people very quickly and he is getting up there in age. The job will kill him.[/QUOTE]
So your entire political reasoning is that he'll die the quickest
I don't know if thats hilarious or sad
Depending on Guriosity's intent, I think I know what he may be trying to do, and I have to say, it's a really stupid play.
Sorry, but after his performance in this debate, I wouldn't bet on him.
[QUOTE=CroGamer002;51115268]That is absolutely dumb!
USA, hell the world, absolutely can not afford for US to have a weak president as crises are looming all over the world.[/QUOTE]
[del]tbh you could say the same for clinton
which is more dangerous for the US: A president who wants to essentially hand the job of being president to the VP so that the president can take on the job of a figurehead. In that case, if trump dies, nothing really changes except a lightening of the load on Pence's shoulders.
or a medically compromised president whose vice president is VP only because he agreed to give the DNC chairmanship to Debbie Schultz and wasn't picked thanks to any skill on his part?[/del]
Which is more dangerous for the US: a president who wants to hand the job of being president to their VP, a former governor, whose record is at least ethically questionable and at most corrupt
or a president whose vice president is VP because he too, was a governor of, and a fairly successful one, who also has probably made some ethically questionable decisions either as governor or as head of DNC
[QUOTE=Svinnik;51115294]tbh you could say the same for clinton
which is more dangerous for the US: A president who wants to essentially hand the job of being president to the VP so that the president can take on the job of a figurehead. In that case, if trump dies, nothing really changes except a lightening of the load on Pence's shoulders.
or a medically compromised president whose vice president is VP only because he agreed to give the DNC chairmanship to Debbie Schultz and wasn't picked thanks to any skill on his part?[/QUOTE]
I'll take the allegedly medically compromised president any day, since that president hasn't made a pledge to dismantle the separation of church and state or turn the country back into an apartheid nation.
Trump supporters would be easier to respect if they had more respect for facts over feelings.
[QUOTE=Svinnik;51115294]tbh you could say the same for clinton
which is more dangerous for the US: A president who wants to essentially hand the job of being president to the VP so that the president can take on the job of a figurehead. In that case, if trump dies, nothing really changes except a lightening of the load on Pence's shoulders.
or a medically compromised president whose vice president is VP only because he agreed to give the DNC chairmanship to Debbie Schultz and wasn't picked thanks to any skill on his part?[/QUOTE]
But she isnt medically compromised at all, or as much as you believe she is, for god's sake
If she was truly that ill she wouldn't even be able to campaign, and if you're referring to the whole fainting incident during the 9/11 memorial meeting it was a combination of pneumonia medicine and heat stress that caused it to happen.
Also Clinton had a doctor's note and a detailed examination that went into more detail than Trump's ever did, which showed that she had no side effects as a result of the old concussion or the blood clot which is now gone.
[QUOTE=Axelius;51114730]Can't wait to hear you guys opinion on this:
[URL]https://worldwide.vote/hillary-vs-trump/[/URL][/QUOTE]
Internet is dominated by reactionaries and populists.
[editline]27th September 2016[/editline]
[QUOTE=Guriosity;51115271]I bet he gets removed from office quickly. He is old enough to have a heart attack. The office does age people very quickly and he is getting up there in age. The job will kill him.[/QUOTE]
So have GOP establishment to his core Pence as US president?!
That guy is utter evil!
[QUOTE=Svinnik;51115294]tbh you could say the same for clinton
which is more dangerous for the US: A president who wants to essentially hand the job of being president to the VP so that the president can take on the job of a figurehead. In that case, if trump dies, nothing really changes except a lightening of the load on Pence's shoulders.
or a medically compromised president whose vice president is VP only because he agreed to give the DNC chairmanship to Debbie Schultz and wasn't picked thanks to any skill on his part?[/QUOTE]
Yeah when you phrase it like that in total ignorance of fact it sure sounds like the first choice would be better doesn't it
I mean lets examine what you've done here for a brief second because I think it will be enlightening, and let's assume that we're in a situation where whichever president that gets elected dies and hands over to the VP.
So first thing is you've neglected to mention Pence's track record as governor of Indiana at all. Yet at the same time you've asserted that Tim Kaine is somehow not a competent governor, or not competent enough to be a qualified VP outside of making backroom deals at the DNC. So there's an imbalance there with very little evidence to support that Pence would be competent and very little evidence to support that Tim Kaine was incompetent
Secondly you've claimed Tim Kaine handed his seat over to the Schultz which is a pretty common rumour I'll admit but that's all it is. In reality in 2011 Kaine was pushed by Obama to run for senate in Virgina and didn't recommend Schultz or anyone else for the position, so there's that. So there's an aspersion basically made on timeline (that I'm aware of) that Kaine is a corrupt politician
Thirdly and finally there's no mention of Pence's record of corruption with receiving many dollars of donations from big tobacco and trying to claim in the early 2000s that smoking doesn't cause cancer and banning vaping in Indiana which while lame as fuck is healthier and a viable alternative to cigarettes. And that's only one of quite a few different allegations
In summary you've managed to frame the question in such a way that ignores both Pence's record as governor and his own corruption allegations, while simultaneously implying that Tim Kaine is both super incompetent and corrupt to the hilt.
I guess if you wanted to rephrase your question as something much truer it would be along the lines of:
Which is more dangerous for the US: a president who wants to hand the job of being president to their VP, a former governor, whose record is at least ethically questionable and at most corrupt
or a president whose vice president is VP because he too, was a governor, and a fairly successful one, who also has probably made some ethically questionable decisions either as governor or as head of DNC but didn't hand over the chairmanship to Debbie Schultz, because that's ridiculous, his only control over who succeeds him is the ability to make a recommendation which he did not actually do
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