The First Presidential Debate - Bart Simpson vs Lisa Simpson - THUNDERDOME - General

[QUOTE=froztshock;51115819]Clinton, massively.[/QUOTE] Even Fox News said Hillary won and talked harshly against Trump. [editline]27th September 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=Kljunas;51115823]Tripoli is western to Naples and Prague. Hardly the Middle East.[/QUOTE] I thought Middle East was a cultural and political distinction, not a geographical one.

[QUOTE=fulgrim;51115929]Why do people keep saying this? I don't like Clinton, but how can you look at someone so apologetically corrupt as Donald [i]"I Don't pay taxes because I'm smart"[/i] Trump[/QUOTE] Why do people keep saying [I]that?[/I] I go out of my way to avoid paying the taxes that I'm not legally obligated to. I'm pretty sure most of this site does. And I doubt a single person here would realistically say no to an offer of not being taxed anymore, if given that opportunity. Or do you think this is a thing only Trump is doing, and not the rest of American businesses? The ones that've chosen to stick around, anyway.

[QUOTE=Monkah;51115966]Why do people keep saying [I]that?[/I] I go out of my way to avoid paying the taxes that I'm not legally obligated to. I'm pretty sure most of this site does. And I doubt a single person here would realistically say no to an offer of not being taxed anymore, if given that opportunity. Or do you think this is a thing only Trump is doing, and not the rest of American businesses? The ones that've chosen to stick around, anyway.[/QUOTE] Are you admitting tax evasion? You know that's a felony right?

[QUOTE=Monkah;51115966]Why do people keep saying [I]that?[/I] I go out of my way to avoid paying the taxes that I'm not legally obligated to. I'm pretty sure most of this site does. And I doubt a single person here would realistically say no to an offer of not being taxed anymore, if given that opportunity. Or do you think this is a thing only Trump is doing, and not the rest of American businesses? The ones that've chosen to stick around, anyway.[/QUOTE] None of what you said makes what Trump said okay. Tax is there for a reason, fiscal policy is there for a reason, it's a big chunk of a nation's budget and it's what allows the government to continue functioning. Tax is paying back to the institutions and infrastructure that you used to acquire your wealth. If the blue collar worker doesn't get to skip on its fiscal commitments, neither should Trump or any other billionaire.

[QUOTE=Monkah;51115966]Why do people keep saying [I]that?[/I] I go out of my way to avoid paying the taxes that I'm not legally obligated to. I'm pretty sure most of this site does. And I doubt a single person here would realistically say no to an offer of not being taxed anymore, if given that opportunity. Or do you think this is a thing only Trump is doing, and not the rest of American businesses? The ones that've chosen to stick around, anyway.[/QUOTE] Off-the-books payment is something a lot of businesses do, yeah, but that doesn't make it okay.

[QUOTE=Monkah;51115966]Why do people keep saying [I]that?[/I] I go out of my way to avoid paying the taxes that I'm not legally obligated to. I'm pretty sure most of this site does. And I doubt a single person here would realistically say no to an offer of not being taxed anymore, if given that opportunity. Or do you think this is a thing only Trump is doing, and not the rest of American businesses? The ones that've chosen to stick around, anyway.[/QUOTE] I'm actually quite glad to pay my taxes, since they're a necessity to running the country. You know, that thing that Trump likes to pretend to worship.

[QUOTE=joshuadim;51115975]Are you admitting tax evasion? You know that's a felony right?[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Monkah;51115966]Why do people keep saying [I]that?[/I] I go out of my way to avoid paying the taxes that I'm [B]not legally obligated to[/B]. I'm pretty sure most of this site does. And I doubt a single person here would realistically say no to an offer of not being taxed anymore, if given that opportunity. Or do you think this is a thing only Trump is doing, and not the rest of American businesses? The ones that've chosen to stick around, anyway.[/QUOTE] Impressive levels of reading comprehension right there. Regardless, the truth is that the 1% and major corporations have tax loopholes that can get them paying almost nothing in taxes. Loopholes that are [B][I]legal[/I][/B] to use, and with little to no legal reform coming for as long as our government is run by corporate interests. It's illogical to treat people like the devil for paying as low of taxes as possible-- something that just about every business, large or small, tries to do. [I]"He doesn't want to fork up insane amounts of his income to the government, get him!"[/I]

[QUOTE=Monkah;51115966]Why do people keep saying [I]that?[/I] I go out of my way to avoid paying the taxes that I'm not legally obligated to. I'm pretty sure most of this site does. And I doubt a single person here would realistically say no to an offer of not being taxed anymore, if given that opportunity. Or do you think this is a thing only Trump is doing, and not the rest of American businesses? The ones that've chosen to stick around, anyway.[/QUOTE] Clearly you would be responding in the same way if Clinton was avoiding taxes

[QUOTE=Monkah;51115966] And I doubt a single person here would realistically say no to an offer of not being taxed anymore, if given that opportunity.[/QUOTE] I would refuse that offer. I actually care for my country and people. And I know paying taxes is required to keep my country afloat and for the people to have good living standards.

It's just kind of hypocritical to pay low taxes while complaining about 'them illegal Mexicans' who are simultaneously welfare cheats and also taking jerbs. That might be the reason why people are against Trump's stand and you potentially 'legally' not paying certain taxes. IDK though.

[QUOTE=Monkah;51115998]Impressive levels of reading comprehension right there. Regardless, the truth is that the 1% and major corporations have tax loopholes that can get them paying almost nothing in taxes. Loopholes that are [B][I]legal[/I][/B] to use, and with little to no legal reform coming for as long as our government is run by corporate interests. It's illogical to treat people like the devil for paying as low of taxes as possible-- something that just about every business, large or small, tries to do. [I]"He doesn't want to fork up insane amounts of his income to the government, get him!"[/I][/QUOTE] Sorry but what taxes can be skipped over and not paid? Name these taxes that you refuse to pay for.

[QUOTE=FlashMarsh;51116000]Clearly you would be responding in the same way if Clinton was avoiding taxes[/QUOTE]My political opinions have been notoriously pro-business and I've been vocally against high taxation of small businesses for as long as I can remember. If you give a business a chance to legally make money, they will. That's a given. May as well be leaving a block of cheese in front of a pack of mice.

[QUOTE=Monkah;51116025]My political opinions have been notoriously pro-business and I've been vocally against high taxation of small businesses for as long as I can remember. If you give a business a chance to legally make money, they will. That's a given. May as well be leaving a block of cheese in front of a pack of mice.[/QUOTE] I'm all for supporting small businesses. But big businesses, such as Verizon or oil companies or Koch Industries make ludicrous amounts of money and they barely pay their fair share. How is that fair to the American people?

[QUOTE=Monkah;51116025]My political opinions have been notoriously pro-business and I've been vocally against high taxation of small businesses for as long as I can remember. If you give a business a chance to legally make money, they will. That's a given. May as well be leaving a block of cheese in front of a pack of mice.[/QUOTE] Then why are you supporting the candidate who's economic policies will do nothing for small businesses and will only suit himself and other billionaires? And lowering taxes has been shown to not work in the States. Reaganomics and the trickle-down system do not work and have resulted in horrible public services in the States.

These 75 pages have sent my sides in Andromeda I will rest easy now

[QUOTE=SebiWarrior;51116052]These 75 pages have sent my sides in Andromeda I will rest easy now[/QUOTE] Much like the debate, this whole thread was one giant joke

[QUOTE=Monkah;51115998]Impressive levels of reading comprehension right there. Regardless, the truth is that the 1% and major corporations have tax loopholes that can get them paying almost nothing in taxes. Loopholes that are [B][I]legal[/I][/B] to use, and with little to no legal reform coming for as long as our government is run by corporate interests. It's illogical to treat people like the devil for paying as low of taxes as possible-- something that just about every business, large or small, tries to do. [I]"He doesn't want to fork up insane amounts of his income to the government, get him!"[/I][/QUOTE] That's fine and well, but Trump is currently being audited which suggests that he's not using loopholes that are [I]legal[/I] means to avoid paying taxes. Clinton brought up that he's been fined for his practices last night. We're talking about a completely different ballpark here.

I had a dream last night that Trump had finished the debate and came right to my house to chill and shit. First he appears nice and relaxed as he's watching the TV and waiting for the election results, then it happens: 50% for both Clinton and Trump. Then Lester Holt says that Trump has 0.05% more votes and won the presidency. Worried, I run after Trump who walks away to lock himself in his room. Right as he closes the door, I plead him "Don't start another war, Trump! Don't do it!" He looks at me in the eyes, seemingly upset, and slams the door to my face without saying a word. How the fuck did I make that shit up, I'm not even a fan of Trump

[QUOTE=Monkah;51115966]Why do people keep saying [I]that?[/I] I go out of my way to avoid paying the taxes that I'm not legally obligated to. I'm pretty sure most of this site does. And I doubt a single person here would realistically say no to an offer of not being taxed anymore, if given that opportunity. Or do you think this is a thing only Trump is doing, and not the rest of American businesses? The ones that've chosen to stick around, anyway.[/QUOTE] No shit Trump isn't the only rich twat who doesn't pay his fair share, that's why I said "unapologetically corrupt". Because most people, not including you apparently, have the common sense to at least recognise they are doing something wrong by avoiding tax, and take steps to cover it up.... instead of announcing it live on television like it's something to brag about.

[QUOTE=1legmidget;51116098]That's fine and well, but Trump is currently being audited which suggests that he's not using loopholes that are [I]legal[/I] means to avoid paying taxes.[/QUOTE] I found it odd how Trump boasted about being audited for 15 years, as if it was a good thing

Getting a good laugh out of Trump saying he won the debate because /pol/ and /r/The_Donald reddit are actively telling everyone where to vote and how to bot.

[QUOTE=Loadingue;51116118]I had a dream last night that Trump had finished the debate and came right to my house to chill and shit. First he appears nice and relaxed as he's watching the TV and waiting for the election results, then it happens: 50% for both Clinton and Trump. Then Lester Holt says that Trump has 0.05% more votes and won the presidency. Worried, I ran after Trump who walks away to lock himself in his room. Right as he closes the door, I plead him "Don't start another war, Trump! Don't do it!" He looks at me in the eyes, seemingly upset, and slams the door to my face. How the fuck did I make up that shit[/QUOTE] i also had a weird dream about the debates. instead of Hillary it was some balding dude with a mustache and glasses on a giant hovering TV, and Trump was sitting actually in the crowd on some bleachers, and he and Trump were debating about something to do with regulating the presence of gorillas. Trump was saying they didn't need to be regulated and people were cheering him, then the balding guy goes "yeah yeah, everyone's [I]real brave[/I] without a test chamber, huh?" and then everyone booed him and i flipped off Trump while he made that weird duck face he makes

[QUOTE=MoralSupport;51115076]VP debate next week. Kaine vs Pence: [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/uBsPtL0.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/O3JVc4P.png[/IMG][/QUOTE]taking these two at face value and going by these shots, Kaine looks like a particularly scheming used car salesman, while Pence expects mr. Bond to die

-snip I need to sleep-

[QUOTE=joshuadim;51116163]Just curious on the gorilla part, was harambe mentioned? I must ask[/QUOTE] And was your dick out?

[QUOTE=Joazzz;51116156]taking these two at face value and going by these shots, Kaine looks like a particularly scheming used car salesman, while Pence expects mr. Bond to die[/QUOTE] even with your descriptions i still don't remember who's who

[QUOTE=DChapsfield;51116171]even with your descriptions i still don't remember who's who[/QUOTE] Pence is the Republican VP candidate, Kaine the Democrat one.

Man I can only hope Kaine has some unknown to public fun personality, otherwise it will be borefest of the debate between the VP's.

[QUOTE=DChapsfield;51116171]even with your descriptions i still don't remember who's who[/QUOTE] [URL="http://wlfi.com/2015/11/19/controversial-mural-outside-lafayette-bar-gets-facelift/"]Pence is the dickhead[/URL] [IMG_thumb]https://lintvwlfi.files.wordpress.com/2015/11/pence1.jpg?w=1248[/IMG_thumb] [QUOTE][URL="http://wlfi.com/2015/11/18/does-this-art-offend-you-why-the-mayor-is-asking-to-cover-it-up/"]As News 18 reported Wednesday,[/URL] the mural outside The Spot Tavern included art showing a naked woman tied to a tree and a male sexual organ inside a hot dog bun. As of Thursday evening, the tip of that sexual organ has been covered with the face of Gov. Mike Pence.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MoralSupport;51115076]VP debate next week. Kaine vs Pence: [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/uBsPtL0.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/O3JVc4P.png[/IMG][/QUOTE] So as someone who doesn't know these two well, how does the debate look? Pence may have some really shitty history, but his debate skill definitely won't be as bad as Trump's was last night. Hopefully things will still end up looking bad for Trump and his team.