Dragon Age: Inquisition features immersively realistic characters - General

[QUOTE=elowin;46531843]tbh, it's pretty much standard when it comes to big RPGs like this. When you gotta animate so many different scenes, it kinda stands to reason that each animation can't be high quality. I don't really understand this outrage about that particularly. on the other hand all of this bullshit is unacceptable.[/QUOTE] It's not really a standard, most RPGs either make something decent like Witcher 2 or Mass Effect 2, or they don't overreach and end up with something in the uncanny valley. There might be a lot of scenes, but if you don't have the resources and end up with a good number of them looking terrible, maybe they should've cut back, gotten more resources, or simplified it to something they could do. The poor animations though are just a symptom of the underlying issue. People laugh at them, but they mock the lack of detail and polish it has. As has been shown with Grey Altoid's issues, the animations weren't the only things they didn't fix up in testing.

Terrible animation, terrible VA, terrible texture work, terrible models. Rest in RIP Mass Effect 4. [editline]20th November 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=HoodedSniper;46530521]How about they are just really fucking shit now and almost all of what made bioware that was good has been long gone. Almost every single older team member has left and all the new people suck major ass. Look at how shit this scene is, this is unforgivable in a fucking triple A with a huge budget and massive marketing. [url]http://a.pomf.se/hhendh.webm[/url][/QUOTE] Holy fuck that looks like a first year students attempt at an animation project.

[QUOTE=fudge blood;46530469]you guys [url]http://www.dragonage.com/#!/en_US/characters/humans/cole[/url] he is literally a sonic oc I can't handle this right now lmfao[/QUOTE] [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/CmFXo6G.png[/IMG]

Sorry but if you don't think this game is a piece of shit you have some fucking terrible taste. Gaming equivalent of Nicky Minaj.

Bioware needs to fire deviantart artists from their studio or something.

[QUOTE=Grindigo;46532594]Bioware needs to fire deviantart artists from their studio or something.[/QUOTE] Then they would stop getting rave reviews from Polygon and friends :(

[QUOTE=JohnnyOnFlame;46532609]Then they would stop getting rave reviews from Polygon and friends :([/QUOTE] You know, there's nothing wrong with characters not looking like supermodels. My issue is, from the neck down, she still does look like a supermodel. If you're going to fight against ultra-idealised characters, you could at least not half-arse it.

These dialogues sounds like they come from those really bad fanfic on the Internet.

[QUOTE=Juniez;46530356]a cutscene, yeah - one out of the thousands the [b]mocap cleaners / animators[/b] had to sift through [/QUOTE] If cleaning up the animation is what they're supposed to be doing they clearly haven't been doing their job. SFM Mocap looks better than the stuff in DA:I.

I have liked the game so far. I'm about a few hours in. I am a big DA fan and it seems to be better than the second one. It's taking me a little to get used to a dragon age game being open world but it's getting kind of cool. I caught my roommate just watching me play it for a while.

[QUOTE=Juniez;46530356]a cutscene, yeah - one out of the thousands the mocap cleaners / animators had to sift through which gets exported and assembled entirely separately by different people also working under similar urgency "Hey dave, remember that one scene with the bow lady drawing an arrow and shoots that clown guy or something... was the drawstring correctly accounted for when giving her that prop?" ":~I"[/QUOTE] Sure, invalidate his entire argument because of a nitpick

Man, what happened to Bioware... Why can't they go back to making good games like Mass Effect or Dragon Age: Origins? [I]It's not like those games had jank as shit animations or anything.[/I] [I]It's not like those games had some awkward lines of dialogue or anything.[/I]

Bioware is real shit with making characters not feel like robots they don't feel like characters AT ALL, they don't even feel like actors reading a script. They feel like normal people boringly reading a script because the facial animations just don't fit at all. HL2 was released in 2004/05 and yet the facial animations are still far better than many games a decade later. [B]ESPECIALLY[/B] this.

I always had a dislike of the "Bioware shuffle" that NPCS have during conversations. They look uncomfortable siding their weight back and forth as a cover up for the lack of movement when conversing. Maybe it's just a mocap thing though, but misery if not all Bioware games have it.

[QUOTE=Starlight 456;46530430]"I'm sorry, but your opinion is objectively wrong, please change it to agree with [i]me[/i] instead." Hate the game if you want, but don't act like a cunt towards people who like it[/QUOTE] games can be objectively bad you know there is a huge amount of objectivity when it comes to video games

[QUOTE=Skyward;46533092]Man, what happened to Bioware... Why can't they go back to making good games like Mass Effect or Dragon Age: Origins? [I]It's not like those games had jank as shit animations or anything.[/I] [I]It's not like those games had some awkward lines of dialogue or anything.[/I][/QUOTE] Difference being those games had a at least decent story and gameplay behind them. DA2 and Inquisition have neither good gameplay nor story. On top of that it's animated (and sometimes modelled) worse than DA:O and ME1, latter of which came out 7 years ago. [editline]20th November 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=Covalent;46530197]How is it unfounded? Or are you just playing ignorant of literally everything being posted. Do you want me to post more? Cause I can: [img_thumb]http://i3.minus.com/iltp5IRyg4Gwt.jpg[/img_thumb] Sure it may be nitpicking, but when you cannot even get a cutscene right, that's something. Sure the game may look and run fairly well, but the other departments failed, horribly, like always. also every post you have has been about DA:I. You're welcome to your opinion, but quite frankly it's wrong.[/QUOTE] That's not fucking nitpicking at all, that is a perfectly valid complaint. It's right in the camera focus of a cutscene and just shows nobody even cared enough to look at what they did. Bioware is a fucking joke, they'd be a joke if they were some low budget indie studio, but as a large budget famous developer, it's pathetic.

Compare the face you see to a game that came out 11 years ago: [img_thumb]http://i2.minus.com/iUYcAdv8Su1uP.jpg[/img_thumb] I think they made character models purposefully ugly in DA:I.

2014, year of PC (and overall game) disasters.

The game feels like a B movie or some TV Show that has been aired for way too many seasons and lost it's touch of what made it good.

[QUOTE=Grindigo;46533692]The game feels like a B movie or some TV Show that has been aired for way too many seasons and lost it's touch of what made it good.[/QUOTE] You know what DA:I really is? Its twilight tier, its those types of fanbases, except it somehow manages to have the quality of a fucking b-soapopera as a triple A. Its fine if you like the game, thats great have fun with it, but its shit, and rather bad shit, and no matter the amount of "Its just nitpicking guys!" or "Your just haters!" will change how shit DA:I really is. Its better to admit bioware and DA:I are complete shit now and then just enjoy it for what it is. Its pretty fucked people are so quick to defend the game when its glaringly obvious how mediocre it is. You can admit something is shit and still enjoy it. But dont defend a shit and lazy made product you buy over some personal feelings. Id be so fucking mad if I was more into DA and bought DA:I and was served this garbage as a long time fan waiting for it.

I really can't wait to see TB's 'WTF is' on this only because it's hard to parse what is real critique and praise or just more overheated white noise from entrenched camps. I mean people spamming DA:I with 0's on Metacritic are idiots, but at the same time the bizarrely over the top praise from gaming press over a game that based solely off appearances looks good at best, has caused my one eyebrow to raise slightly.

I want to know how many of you bashing Inquisition have actually played it, rather than just bashing it because of cherry-picked screenshots and a couple of videos. Just curious to know if the game is actually as bad as you're claiming. I'm picking the game up tomorrow and if it's as bad as some people say then Bioware are dead to me. If it's as good as others say then I'll give Bioware another shot.

[QUOTE=Janus Vesta;46534207]I want to know how many of you bashing Inquisition have actually played it, rather than just bashing it because of cherry-picked screenshots and a couple of videos. Just curious to know if the game is actually as bad as you're claiming. I'm picking the game up tomorrow and if it's as bad as some people say then Bioware are dead to me. If it's as good as others say then I'll give Bioware another shot.[/QUOTE] Literally everyone I know who's played it- myself included- loved Dragon Age: Origins, hated Dragon Age 2, and says this is a great return to form. Its not perfect, it does have some issues, but it's solid overall. Menawhile the only people I see that HATE the game are people who point at some jank animations and claim the game is dreadful. Take that as you will.

If we didn't like a game, why would we go buy it?

[QUOTE=Janus Vesta;46534207]I want to know how many of you bashing Inquisition have actually played it, rather than just bashing it because of cherry-picked screenshots and a couple of videos. Just curious to know if the game is actually as bad as you're claiming. I'm picking the game up tomorrow and if it's as bad as some people say then Bioware are dead to me. If it's as good as others say then I'll give Bioware another shot.[/QUOTE] I've played it for 7 hours, and it's bad. I felt completely let down as it was hyped up to be the spiritual successor to Origins. It was pretty much the successor to DA2. Some of the characters were that ugly I screamed in my chair when they came into cutscenes.

[QUOTE=Janus Vesta;46534207]I want to know how many of you bashing Inquisition have actually played it, rather than just bashing it because of cherry-picked screenshots and a couple of videos. Just curious to know if the game is actually as bad as you're claiming. I'm picking the game up tomorrow and if it's as bad as some people say then Bioware are dead to me. If it's as good as others say then I'll give Bioware another shot.[/QUOTE] why would I spend money on a game I know I won't like? doesn't compute. I'm not rich enough to just throw away money like I wipe my ass with it.

[QUOTE=Covalent;46534902]why would I spend money on a game I know I won't like? doesn't compute. I'm not rich enough to just throw away money like I wipe my ass with it.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Alxnotorious;46534283]If we didn't like a game, why would we go buy it?[/QUOTE] How can you say a game is bad if you haven't played it? Sure you might not think it looks good but don't go around saying it's bad when you have no experience with it. That's exactly why I asked, I figured a lot of people had decided they hated the game without giving it a chance.

[QUOTE=Janus Vesta;46534938]How can you say a game is bad if you haven't played it? Sure you might not think it looks good but don't go around saying it's bad when you have no experience with it. That's exactly why I asked, I figured a lot of people had decided they hated the game without giving it a chance.[/QUOTE] I don't think you understand the internet. It lets us see the game without even having to buy it ourselves. Sure the gameplay aspect is different, but everything else, aka, animations, story, graphics, models, characters, etc etc are the same. So if I have a list of things that I [B]know[/B] I will not like, why in the shit should I fork out my money, for it? That's like paying someone to kick me in the balls. Sure some may enjoy it, but after watching it myself, I'll gladly keep my money and think silly of those who go into it.

[QUOTE=Janus Vesta;46534938][B]How can you say a game is bad if you haven't played it?[/B] Sure you might not think it looks good but don't go around saying it's bad when you have no experience with it. That's exactly why I asked, I figured a lot of people had decided they hated the game without giving it a chance.[/QUOTE] Because good gameplay can only do so much for a game when everything else is shit? The "but you haven't played it" argument is stupid when you are able to judge 50% of the game by viewing it. If something looks good/bad you can tell people you think it's good/bad, simple as.

[QUOTE=Covalent;46534980]I don't think you understand the internet. It lets us see the game without even having to buy it ourselves. Sure the gameplay aspect is different, but everything else, aka, animations, story, graphics, models, characters, etc etc are the same. So if I have a list of things that I [B]know[/B] I will not like, why in the shit should I fork out my money, for it? That's like paying someone to kick me in the balls. Sure some may enjoy it, but after watching it myself, I'll gladly keep my money and think silly of those who go into it.[/QUOTE] ehh, unless you've been watching a full lets play of it, and preferably a silent one, you won't really have much experience with the story specifically.