Forum Discussion v5 - Imagine if you used Ignore List. - General

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[QUOTE=Scratch.;52902590]The forums would have like 3 sams now smh[/QUOTE] I think you need something to differentiate, maybe something like "Son of Sam"?

Newpunch is so snappy [editline]18th November 2017[/editline] It's weird but I never imaged fp to be so fast

Oh boy, I browse the forums every single day and yet knew nothing about the new forums until like a week ago. I hope I don't miss it when I'm able to tie this account to the one I made on newpunch. [sp]thank god I'm able to have a different name finally[/sp]

I don't identify by name, I do by avatar. So all those who change often are like ADHD strangers to me.

New Facepunch, New Me xx

[QUOTE=Van-man;52902804]I don't identify by name, I do by avatar. So all those who change often are like ADHD strangers to me.[/QUOTE] How I do too, most of the time. Will be funny though, I'm sure a very large chunk of us older members will opt-in for changing names lol. Only the newer guys n' gals will be recognizable via name.

I've wanted to use this avatar image for years but could never be satisfied without the extra vertical space. RIP that on new punch I guess.

[QUOTE=shadowboy303;52902852]I've wanted to use this avatar image for years but could never be satisfied without the extra vertical space. RIP that on new punch I guess.[/QUOTE] Just do a 64x64 close up of the tip of one of those rockets. We'll know what it is. :)

[QUOTE=sam6420;52902884]Brazilian Sam, Canadian Sam, and oldpunch Sam (and I don't think the last one is active).[/QUOTE] Can I join the Sam Club too?

[QUOTE=Kommodore;52901705]i feel like creating an economy out of ratings runs the risk of enabling some really shitty attention-seeking[/QUOTE] How do you figure? Attention-whoring would result in people not giving them the ratings they desire and potentially getting a ban out of the deal. Coins and diamonds actually cost users something to give out so it's not something they're just going to give out easily.

[QUOTE=Robman8908;52902905]64x64[/QUOTE] :disgust: [editline]18th November 2017[/editline] [QUOTE=Alice3173;52902941]How do you figure? Attention-whoring would result in people not giving them the ratings they desire and potentially getting a ban out of the deal. Coins and diamonds actually cost users something to give out so it's not something they're just going to give out easily.[/QUOTE] I can still see it being gamed hard.

[url]https://forum.facepunch.com/f/general/cwkh/coin-farming-thread/1/[/url] Just make new rule that asking for coins and coin-making alts are bannable.

It's gonna be real weird when everyone changes their name [editline]edit[/editline] Tudd's gonna change his name and no-one will notice for like 2 months but when someone does, the word will spread faster than light and shit will hit the fan again

[QUOTE=Noob4life;52902960][url]https://forum.facepunch.com/f/general/cwkh/coin-farming-thread/1/[/url] Just make new rule that asking for coins and coin-making alts are bannable.[/QUOTE] Rulebreaking isn't the problem, rulebending is. It's all about determination and being cunning, when there's monetization and rewards involved, it'll still be gamed no matter how well covered the various scenarios are.

[QUOTE=postal;52902576]so just make a new account called EddieLTU2 for now?? it says your nickname is taken because your old account that you can't access yet got migrated over. [editline]18th November 2017[/editline] heh looks like a bunch of the angry rust poster alt accounts made in response to me banning their main accounts got migrated over too [img]https://i.imgur.com/z8aDf4p.png[/img] i will remember u always, FUCKpostal[/QUOTE]Why they didn't go for the obvious 'MotherFuckingPostHoleExpress' I don't know :v: .

[QUOTE=postal;52902576]so just make a new account called EddieLTU2 for now?? it says your nickname is taken because your old account that you can't access yet got migrated over. [editline]18th November 2017[/editline] heh looks like a bunch of the angry rust poster alt accounts made in response to me banning their main accounts got migrated over too [img]https://i.imgur.com/z8aDf4p.png[/img] i will remember u always, FUCKpostal[/QUOTE] maybe he just hates shooting cats from the end of a shotgun?

[QUOTE=Exploderguy;52902962]It's gonna be real weird when everyone changes their name [editline]edit[/editline] Tudd's gonna change his name and no-one will notice for like 2 months but when someone does, the word will spread faster than light and shit will hit the fan again[/QUOTE] I hope he changes it to Fudders.

[QUOTE=Raidyr;52902294]I completely agree. I feel like in the past the thread would have been locked and DDT'd immediately. Nothing good could have come of that. Now that thats out of the way; No? I mean, most FPers are probably left of center but I'd hardly call it "left centric". There is no central ideology that runs through FP, no political structure whatsoever. It's probably just a wording thing but calling a forum that has twoish sections out of about two dozen as "left-centric" kind of inaccurate. But even then if you just want to talk about the general population and what sorts of posts get made, I'd consider FP solidly center-left. If you toss out spoilers like healthcare and climate change you see a community that leans left on economics and the environment, but leans right on topics like firearm regulation. The actual, legitimate far-left posters (those that haven't been banned, at least) catch just as much shit as the far-right/alt-right folks. This is fiction. No policy was ever instituted to "support the left by banning people who spoke out against left ideology", directly or otherwise. I'm open to examples but as far as I'm aware this was never a thing. A noble goal, my counterpoint would be that your perspective on Facepunch and it's position of balance is a bit skewed. No it's pretty accurate, the advice given for certain people who have outright admitted to trolling is to just ignore them. Then when people say that the ignore feature isn't sufficiently developed then the argument just becomes "get over it". "to sanction" means "to approve" so maybe approval is a strong word but I'd definitely say it's looking the other way, as it were. wew lad, lets try to keep it peaceful, yeah? Who is Sega Saturn and his "people"? Who are the people who oppose his views? Why are there people fearful for speaking out? I'm assuming you mean right-wingers, and if I'm right (I could be wrong, please correct me if I am!) then you have completely lost the plot. The most vocal conservative on this forum, the one who makes the most posts and the most threads, has a special avatar, mod immunity, and was made a mod himself for April Fools. I can name a half dozen posters who regularly post right-wing/conservative/libertarian viewpoints who's ban history looks relatively clean. I've never felt fear posting my conservative opinions. Fuck, typing out "felt fear" when referring to an internet forum shows how bizarre this comment is. I'm not even sure where you pulled this from. No where in his post did he even vaguely intimate creating safe spaces.[/QUOTE] I'm not going to argue with you. You are wrong on pretty much every point you just raised. However I will say that it is probably not a good idea to assume a disrespectful tone and tell me that I have "lost the plot".

[QUOTE=Hezzy;52903121]I'm not going to argue with you. You are wrong on pretty much every point you just raised. However I will say that it is probably not a good idea to assume a [B]disrespectful tone[/B] and tell me that I have "lost the plot".[/QUOTE] I mean, that's kind of ironic with this kind of response you're giving. You're not even bothering to explain HOW Raidyr is wrong in your mind.

[QUOTE=joshuadim;52903134]I mean, that's kind of ironic with this kind of response you're giving. You're not even bothering to explain HOW Raidyr is wrong in your mind.[/QUOTE] Did you honestly expect better from Hezzy? This is pretty much totally normal for him which is exactly why he should never have been remodded to begin with.

Oh boy, folks are bringing out the pitchforks and torches again...

[QUOTE=Van-man;52903147]Oh boy, folks are bringing out the pitchforks and torches again...[/QUOTE] It's to be expected when issues get dismissed without ever actually getting addressed. Hezzy just keeps clamping down on even discussing certain issues which doesn't deal with the underlying problem. It just sweeps it under the rug and tries to hide it from sight instead.

[QUOTE=Van-man;52903147]Oh boy, folks are bringing out the pitchforks and torches again...[/QUOTE] Half a page is polite and jokey, then half is calling for a civil war a la forum. Rinse and repeat.

[QUOTE=Alice3173;52903155]It's to be expected when issues get dismissed without ever actually getting addressed. Hezzy just keeps clamping down on even discussing certain issues which doesn't deal with the underlying problem. It just sweeps it under the rug and tries to hide it from sight instead.[/QUOTE] You realize Hezzy is one of the only ones who has very consistently addressed pretty much every major issue that was brought up, even when the rest of the mod team may not have had a problem with it? He's had Postal even release logs detailing the literal discussion the mods have had on the issues in the discord. I honestly don't even know what you're on about. There's no genuine basis for your argument.

[QUOTE=joshuadim;52903134]I mean, that's kind of ironic with this kind of response you're giving. You're not even bothering to explain HOW Raidyr is wrong in your mind.[/QUOTE] Yeah, it's pretty incredible. Two different people responded point by point, explaining how we felt he misunderstood my position. Raidyr even repeatedly made it clear that he wasn't attacking Hezzy's overall goals, only the means, and even asked for examples for one of his points.

[QUOTE=Alice3173;52903155]It's to be expected when issues get dismissed without ever actually getting addressed. Hezzy just keeps clamping down on even discussing certain issues which doesn't deal with the underlying problem. It just sweeps it under the rug and tries to hide it from sight instead.[/QUOTE] While I agree with your point I think your tone is not very nice.

[QUOTE=The Genie;52903196]A lot of the arguments brought up in this thread are recycled. I can understand why both sides are getting tired of debating it, especially when no satisfactory conclusion comes of it.[/QUOTE] This topic would be long dead if the mod team actually addressed the issues rather than sweeping them under the rug.

[QUOTE=The Genie;52903208]I'd also like to point out that the majority opinion in this thread isn't indicative of the wider forum, after all the users that post here is still just a minority of the overall community.[/QUOTE] that doesn't invalidate any criticism or issues brought up

[QUOTE=joshuadim;52903229]This topic would be long dead if the mod team actually addressed the issues rather than sweeping them under the rug.[/QUOTE] It's a lot like coming up to the same fork repeatedly, because the side the mods keep taking leads down a huge circle that brings us back to the same spot. We keep saying to take the other fork, and because our advice isn't changing, we get told that our points are recycled, and then we get ignored again. Eventually this current batch will get tired of arguing, but so long as we remain in the same dilemma, other people will inevitably bring up the same points.