The All American canal. Now that we covered the Arizona bill, help me with this
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[QUOTE=nukehummer;21728878]If you have 1 million dollars your wealthy right?
Now share your money with 1 million immigrants. See how far it gets you.
We can't make the whole world live a comfortable life, we're having trouble helping all our own citizens as it is.
More people add weight to our own problems, weight that we don't need nor want,and we're not really doing that great right now anyway.
Our own problems come before others, and we're not going to help another countries citizens when we're busy trying to help our own.[/QUOTE]
Then don't share your money. They support themselves for the most part. As much as any American, really.
I'll elaborate more on this tonight if the thread is still active.
[QUOTE=Mingebox;21727890]I think we should enact your idea, but you should be the one who has to shoot them. No problem, right?[/QUOTE]
well it would take more people than me. I would have a problem with it as long as there was a Spanish sign on the mexican border saying trespassers will be shot.
[QUOTE=Used Car Salesman;21723707]Illegal immigrants aren't terrorists or criminals, they're desperate people and their families trying to escape poverty and drug war. Their lives are as important as everyone else's, desperation doesn't make them subhuman. I find some illegal immigrants picking strawberries for a few bucks a day to be a lot easier on my conscience than leaving them to drown.
Stop treating them like rapists and drug dealers, trying to make your life better by relocating to a nation in which 99% of people are originally immigrants is not the babykilling crime against humanity those dumb rednecks in Arizona like to paint it as.
Rate me boxes because I don't think Mexicans deserve horrible death for setting foot on land that only all-American white people deserve.[/QUOTE]
Very nicely put.
[QUOTE=MasterChef;21729886]Illegal immigrants are criminals. All of them. Hence the part they are here illegally.[/QUOTE]
so the fuck what? people who smoke a joint once a week are criminals. people who jaywalk are criminals. people who speed are criminals.
EVERYONE breaks laws. stop putting a label on them like that.
Also, I live in PA so all the shit mexicans get filtered out in the south, all the illegals here are nice people, they are a big part of the economy.
My question is how did so many Mexicans end up in Chicago?
I don't understand you, OP. There's a steady stream of deaths in this canal because people want to get into America so badly. They're [i]that[/i] desperate. So you want to throw a couple fences across the death trap that these people are throwing themselves into... to make it harder for them to kill themselves doing the thing that they're willing to kill themselves to do?
And a ladder on the Mexican side only? What, so they can climb out and catch their breaths before they jump back in again? Treat the disease, not the symptoms.
If you actually let Mexicans get citizenship, you gain a population of hard workers who appreciate the things we take for granted - prosperity, clean water, just little shit like that. And Mexico is predominantly Catholic, so you'd be bringing in a population of Christians. The language barrier is a small thing, really.
I think in the end, the number of potential lives saved would be worth the minor costs involved. We do things all the time to protect people who do illegal things. For example, jaywalkers still have the right of way, even though it's illegal. Rumble strips for people who fall asleep while driving. Rehab centers for drug users.
[QUOTE=JDK721v2;21769086]so the fuck what? people who smoke a joint once a week are criminals. people who jaywalk are criminals. people who speed are criminals.
EVERYONE breaks laws. stop putting a label on them like that.[/QUOTE]
Severity. Speeding 15 over the limit and coming here illegally, and then continuing to do illegal things is so much worse than if I speed down my unpopulated highway on my drive home.
Just like how illegal aliens aren't as bad as serial killers, obviously. Though it's terribly bad when an alien comes here, and then kills someone. That [I]screams[/I] injustice to me.
And why shouldn't I put that label on them? It's the perfectly applicable label.
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[QUOTE=xenodrox;21769299]I don't understand you, OP. There's a steady stream of deaths in this canal because people want to get into America so badly. They're [I]that[/I] desperate. So you want to throw a couple fences across the death trap that these people are throwing themselves into... to make it harder for them to kill themselves doing the thing that they're willing to kill themselves to do?
And a ladder on the Mexican side only? What, so they can climb out and catch their breaths before they jump back in again? Treat the disease, not the symptoms.
If you actually let Mexicans get citizenship, you gain a population of hard workers who appreciate the things we take for granted - prosperity, clean water, just little shit like that. And Mexico is predominantly Catholic, so you'd be bringing in a population of Christians. [b]The language barrier is a small thing, really.[/b][/QUOTE]
Hahahaha.
You've never been near border towns, have you? Everything is fucking written in Spanish. Not even English then Spanish. They've taken over that fucking much. It's completely ridiculous.
[QUOTE=MasterChef;21773952]I speed down my unpopulated highway on my drive home.
And why shouldn't I put that label on them? It's the perfectly applicable label.
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Then you're a criminal and that's what I'll call you from now on.
Ok?
Just put the ladders on the side they came from.
[QUOTE=MasterChef;21773952]Severity. Speeding 15 over the limit and coming here illegally, and then continuing to do illegal things is so much worse than if I speed down my unpopulated highway on my drive home.
Just like how illegal aliens aren't as bad as serial killers, obviously. Though it's terribly bad when an alien comes here, and then kills someone. That [I]screams[/I] injustice to me.
And why shouldn't I put that label on them? It's the perfectly applicable label.[/QUOTE]
because putting labels on them like that is an asshole move and you're trying to imply that they're somehow inferior.
I'm gonna call you a criminal for now on too because you've broken laws.
[QUOTE=Used Car Salesman;21723707]Illegal immigrants aren't terrorists or criminals.[/QUOTE]
not all of them
[URL]http://www.yakimacounty.us/docpublicasp/YcDocPublicIncarinated.aspx[/URL]
that's the overflow county jail since Seattle is overfull. Take a look at any Hispanic name and a very large amount are on immigration hold and some of them have violent crimes on their record.
Its took me fucking forever to find a job. Months of every internet job site and outside going door to door asking if their hireing and the only job I got was working with illegals who don't speak English. We hardly have enough jobs for Americans we don't need people coming here ILLEGALLY to take up more. How kind that we even have a process for people from Mexico to become legal us residents. Its called a fucking green card.
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