Did you draw the neck first or did you draw both at the same time? I'd recommend you to at least draw the "bone lines" or the "body" before adding any detail like clothes, etc.
Fuck my vocabulary
Just exploring some more styles tonight. I had trouble falling asleep yesterday because a style similar to these was stuck in my imagination. Feels good to finally get it on paper.
[IMG]http://img801.imageshack.us/img801/8528/scan00043.png[/IMG]
Also please forgive the inconsistency in some of the letters, it is only because I was exploring something new with each letter.
[img]http://i.imgur.com/c8PVd.png[/img]
I've been a little bit paranoid about my monitor calibration.
[QUOTE=lucky;38862948][img]http://i.imgur.com/c8PVd.png[/img]
I've been a little bit paranoid about my monitor calibration.[/QUOTE]
The shadow around the nose is.. unclear.. Maybe up the opacity and hardness a little bit more?
Oh, and its shape doesn't seem right.
Other than that, I like it.
[QUOTE=rikimaru6811;38862775]Did you draw the neck first or did you draw both at the same time? I'd recommend you to at least draw the "bone lines" or the "body" before adding any detail like clothes, etc.
Fuck my vocabulary[/QUOTE]
At the same time? As what?
I didn't do an undersketch or anything, just painted straight. So what you can see is what I did :v:
The head was my concern so I didn't focus on the torso at all. If I just cropped it up to the neck It'd look fine I guess. I kind of liked the long neck look though, gives her a victorian-era aspect if you know what I mean.
Idk I like the neck
It's not typical but it's not unrealistic
[QUOTE=rikimaru6811;38862709]Thumb god dammit[/QUOTE]
yes sorry about that, I can't brain today, I have the sick
fixed
[QUOTE=MakoSkyDub;38862738]Yeah. The neck of the turtleneck is supposed to be splaying onto her shoulders, but I didn't get that across well so it looks like it's neck all the way down. :/[/QUOTE]
Maybe you can try out a grid? That is, if it doesn't put you off too much. It is beneficial to learning proportions, and you might understand why it is a good way to learn.
[img]https://photos-4.dropbox.com/t/0/AABaUoTtpomWkn4XCFCD1ZVUyUtiSG6QyvSPNi3i5vtq0Q/10/14273442/png/1024x768/2/1355760000/0/2/birdy.png/QIbBfVFLS25FyfWijDj-bfslBYzDqqwUkErZEsZVRPM[/img]
Unblended birdy. Am I improving?
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[QUOTE=Maloof?;38855454]What did you mean about the lighting though? Do you mean that it's more the sort of thing you'd see in a traditional, calm landscape painting and less like what you'd see in a sci-fi film composition?[/QUOTE]
kinda, yeh. in the one i quoted especially there's no sense of emotion or atmosphere. there's none of the intrigue or suspense that usually goes with sci-fi, nor none of the beauty or serenity that goes with a nice contemporary/historic landscape shot... it just looks like a dull over-cast day
maybe try painting some stuff at a more "magic hour", which is a silly industry term for that time of the day just before sunset (late afternoon on a spring day in a northern hemisphere place) where there are quite long shadows and a good contrast between light and darks and lots of contrast in heat in those values. right now some of your stuff looks like it's painted at midday on a day with uninteresting weather. aside from being a bit boring, it's also hard as fuck to paint stuff in overcast weather because there's very little shadowing, and hard as fuck to paint stuff at midday because all the shadows are going directly downwards. tricky to get stuff to read
Maybe this isn't the most agreeable post since all of you were horrified that my art teachers taught me that doing copies of other people's work is good practice, but my art teacher also taught us that grids are a great way of learning proportions, even if they're not necessarily suitable for final pieces...
[editline]17th December 2012[/editline]
There's enough difficulties in making art that you shouldn't have to limit yourself any more than you have to. Art's all about knowing when to use certain tools or not; not purposefully stacking everything against you. Just because Chuck Close doesn't need hands to make great art, it doesn't mean you lack artistic integrity because you used your hands. Just do whatever works for you...
i was wondering how hitman would be in the future
[IMG]http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac158/falcont2t/HitmanUltimate_zpsefb14df2.jpg[/IMG]
oh
[QUOTE=Robbobin;38866097]doing copies of other people's work is good practice[/QUOTE]
yeh doing studies of the painting masters without use of the colour picker tool is a brilliant way to learn about colour theory
in the end it's all observation which is always good practice
[t]http://i.imgur.com/vcMA2.jpg?1[/t]
Most of what I've been drawing lately has been learning exercises so it's not really worth posting but I was bored so I drew a tortoise wearing a party hat.
[QUOTE=kaine123;38869873][t]http://i.imgur.com/vcMA2.jpg?1[/t]
Most of what I've been drawing lately has been learning exercises so it's not really worth posting but I was bored so I drew a tortoise wearing a party hat.[/QUOTE]
Youre using thick lines in all the wrong places, google "line weight tutorials", it will really improve your work.
[QUOTE=1chains1;38869948]Youre using thick lines in all the wrong places, google "line weight tutorials", it will really improve your work.[/QUOTE]
I was just doing that randomly and in retrospect that was a bad idea. I really should consider that next time.
Does anybody have a real quick run down on line weight? I've looked and it's hard to find any decent instruction.
As far as I know, it's about contrast; if you're drawing a piece of white paper that sits on a table which has a surface that's coloured in a gradient from light grey to dark grey, then when you draw the part of the paper that borders the light grey you use a skinny line, and when you draw the part of the paper that borders the dark grey you use a darker line, to show more contrast?
heavier parts of forms are generally emphasized by thick lines because the width of the line helps to add the impression of weight. thin lines are usually reserved for parts of form that should be considered to have less weight. i dont know if that explains what you are talking about, but the way i learned was from watching cartoons and reading comic books. [url]http://johnkstuff.blogspot.com/2008/11/inking-advanced-pt-1-logical-line.html[/url] has a really basic way of explaining it on the basis of cartoons and animation, but the same principles can be applied from simple cartoon forms to more complex forms such as the human figure. i hope that helps a little bit
Awesome, thanks
another easy way to gain more understanding would be to google image search figure drawings, especially contour figure drawings. it's easier to see how by just using lines alone can create a sense of depth and weight on various parts of the human body
generally i would use thicker lines on things that are closer. stuff in the distance or background, things with less significance should have thin, consistent lines. The more bold and dynamic the more attention they will draw.
[editline]18th December 2012[/editline]
also stuff in light, especially harsh overexposed light would have very thin lines. Although I'm not necessarily sure shadowed areas would have the thickest lines. Areas in shadow tend to be quite low contrast and flat so... im not sure
I'm not sure people are describing this correctly. Line weight is used as a basic method of setting a light source and showing shadows (thick line) and highlights (thin lines).
[url]http://vimeo.com/28308497[/url]
[QUOTE=Lilyo;38871578]I'm not sure people are describing this correctly. Line weight is used as a basic method of setting a light source and showing shadows (thick line) and highlights (thin lines).
[video=vimeo;28308497]http://vimeo.com/28308497[/video][/QUOTE]
ahh that's a better way to explain it. i was just thinking back to my figure drawing class and for some of our lessons the instructor would tell us to focus on following forms without any shading or shadowing. i guess it was just to make us better observers. the lighting lessons all came later. sorry for any confusion i was just going by how i was taught
[QUOTE=Robbobin;38866097]Maybe this isn't the most agreeable post since all of you were horrified that my art teachers taught me that doing copies of other people's work is good practice, but my art teacher also taught us that grids are a great way of learning proportions, even if they're not necessarily suitable for final pieces...
[editline]17th December 2012[/editline]
There's enough difficulties in making art that you shouldn't have to limit yourself any more than you have to. Art's all about knowing when to use certain tools or not; not purposefully stacking everything against you. Just because Chuck Close doesn't need hands to make great art, it doesn't mean you lack artistic integrity because you used your hands. Just do whatever works for you...[/QUOTE]
It's not about stacking things against you. You shouldn't use aids that won't be there in crunch time, you're just crippling yourself in the end. Does anyone really want to do nothing but photostudies made much easier the whole time? I'm sure most people interested in art want to draw from life, or imagination. If you're learning to ride a bike, it doesn't matter how long you practice with the training wheels on, eventually you'll have to learn to ride without them.
I mean listen to Chesty, recently he said he felt he had wasted his two years of art by doing gridded photostudies and he should be a lot better/have learned a lot more by doing it properly.
Conclusion of an article on the advantages and disadvantages of gridding:
[i]Another disadvantage to gridding is that it unfortunately can turn from a useful learning technique to an artistic crutch very easily. Drawing from a grid is much easier than drawing freehand; in fact, even those who may not be so artistically inclined can successfully create a reproduction of an image using the grid method. For those who would like to truly push themselves and learn to draw without the aid of a grid, it's extremely important to draw from life and minimize, if not wholly reject, the use of gridding.[/i]
[QUOTE=!LORD M!;38864402]Maybe you can try out a grid? That is, if it doesn't put you off too much. It is beneficial to learning proportions, and you might understand why it is a good way to learn.[/QUOTE]
I have used a grid, in school, when I was a lot younger and wasn't into art or anything. The picture came out perfect. I didn't need to pay attention to proportions whatsoever because I could just draw from the intersection of lines in the grid and the drawing. Even if I had wanted to get better at proportions, I would have found the grid pretty distracting for that purpose to be honest. Maybe it's good for other beginners, I don't really see it though, especially compared to other means.
[t]https://dl.dropbox.com/u/8702336/AI_Drawings/2012/222.png[/t]
[t]https://dl.dropbox.com/u/8702336/AI_Drawings/2012/223.png[/t]
How do you draw legs, I have a construction issue with it
I was drawing legs like this, which i learned from Michael Hampton's book, i thought it was a pretty good quick way to get a pose down but scotch/vman tells me it's not.
[IMG]https://dl.dropbox.com/u/8702336/Screencaps/New Canvas.png[/IMG]
(Didn't care about accurate proportion i just wanted to show what i mean)
He's tryin to help but he doesn't have his tablet right now so i figure I'd come to you guys for help.
You've got to know the basics before going stylized,
Try to "simplify" this, and knowing the general human body proportion helps, too.
[url]http://www.daviddarling.info/images/muscles_human_body_front.jpg[/url]
Just finished this up tonight. Best Buds. I'm happy with how close I got to their cartoon style.
[IMG]http://i47.tinypic.com/2dhffok.jpg[/IMG]
Dude, that is awesome.
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