The Spread of the Caliphate: The Islamic State (Part 1) - General

[QUOTE=Fayez;45670878]I'm not ashamed because of IS as a group, I'm ashamed because the propaganda guy came from Belgium where he was exposed to religious freedom and equal rights being enforced, but he rejected it to join a murderous band of racists, sexist pigs. I'm ashamed because a fellow Muslim, who wasn't indoctrinated as a child, who lived and had a family in the west, not only agreed with IS, but agreed with them so much that he left his family and brought his young son to the most violent and war torn country on the planet in order to not only join them, but to also train his son to become a fighter. It makes me afraid if other western Muslims feel the same.[/QUOTE] I find this kind of puzzling. Why would he do this? Does the same happen with other religions?

What does Takbir even mean? And why do I get the feeling that some of these people were spewing their rhetoric because they'd be nailed to a post and set on fire if they didn't?

[QUOTE]The Takbīr or Tekbir (تَكْبِير) is the Arabic term for the phrase Allāhu Akbar (الله أكبر). It is usually translated as "God is [the] greatest," or "God is great".[1][/QUOTE] [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Takbir[/url]

[QUOTE=Krinkels;45671380]I find this kind of puzzling. Why would he do this? Does the same happen with other religions?[/QUOTE] Called lust for power, he has alot of knowledge so he could get power in this new state. And some people are a bit messed up in the head too. Also, these people are nicely brainwashing children and people making them believe they could actaully bring down the entire world basically.

Whoops, I'm wrong. [QUOTE=asteroidrules;45672283]What does Takbir even mean? And why do I get the feeling that some of these people were spewing their rhetoric because they'd be nailed to a post and set on fire if they didn't?[/QUOTE] You can see in the second and fourth video the adults finishing the children's sentences, and the children glancing off screen constantly in order to determine that they are being a good puppet.

[QUOTE=Fayez;45672892]This is the land that the IS wants. [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/THDGjYz.jpg[/IMG] Ironically there are more Buddhists in this area than Muslims, and that includes the Shias which IS seem to hate so much. I wonder what will happen if IS reaches Israel. You can see in the second and fourth video the adults finishing the children's sentences, and the children glancing off screen constantly in order to determine that they are being a good puppet.[/QUOTE] You dummy that is from a video game playthrough lmao don't worry you're not the first to fall for it

[QUOTE=Fayez;45672892] I wonder what will happen if IS reaches Israel. [/QUOTE] See everyone in Israel to my knowledge has at least 2 years of actual military training, many of them carry firearms, many of them have be trained soldiers, many them would fight fanatically to keep Israel from themselves. The IDF definitely would NOT take shit from ISIS at all, I guarantee you when the threat of ISIS comes knocking to the Israeli's you'll be expecting F-15s bombing their cities and weapon caches.

[QUOTE=Valiantttt;45672575]Called lust for power, he has alot of knowledge so he could get power in this new state. And some people are a bit messed up in the head too. Also, these people are nicely brainwashing children and people making them believe they could actaully bring down the entire world basically.[/QUOTE] IS has only been in the area for barely over a month, how much brainwashing can they do? Same with these kids, same with the Belgian guy. I think they really do believe that they're doing the right thing. Is their reasoning totally logical? No, but that doesn't make them any less sincere. For a lot of these people in the area, ISIS has actually improved their lives. Draconian law enforcement, yeah, but they've restored electricity, water, and gas to these areas, and brought an end to what a lot of them have seen as a parade of chaos and humiliation at the hands of a 12 year long procession of foreigners and apostates. And if a bunch of undesirables are hauled off the street to be killed, well, they'll be less than reluctant to turn a blind eye, same as the Germans under the Nazis. There are a lot of Sunni militias in Iraq who don't go around slaughtering minorities and don't even really buy into that whole caliphate stuff, but still fight under ISIS's flag, because ISIS is giving them a better deal than the American-backed Iraqi government. As for those who come from abroad to fight, I imagine that it's a bit more complicated--the reasons people become jihadis are probably as varied as the reasons people join the Army. For your Belgian man, as well as a lot of jihadis who come from well-off, educated, westernized backgrounds, it's less likely that he's just a headcase, and more likely that he's a bitter, moralistic Muslim jock with not a lot going for him, and this is the cause in life that he's found in the absence of anything else. Maybe I'm just being an apologist lefty or a misanthropic edgelord, but I honestly don't think these people are particularly more hateful than us. This is simplifying things a lot, and I don't mean to discount the effects of culture, but if your Belgian man was born white, then he'd probably end up spending most of his time on /pol/ or Stormfront, fantasizing about killing all the people he doesn't like, instead of actually going out and doing it, because for white people on /pol/ and Stormfront, there's too much law and too few support structures to really get the ball rolling on organized terrorism.

[QUOTE=Gentry;45673230]You dummy that is from a video game playthrough lmao don't worry you're not the first to fall for it[/QUOTE] It's still an accurate representation of what the IS wishes to set up before aiming for a global caliphate. They want the caliphate to cover all land that has sizeable Muslim populations.

The final part I think [video=youtube;TxX_THjtXOw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TxX_THjtXOw[/video]

I just can't grasp newspaper articles in the same way I can with the documentaries. The pure fucking terror that these people are experiencing really becomes evident. I wish there was some way I could help. Fuck.

[QUOTE=Hamaflavian;45665518]Why should it? You didn't do shit.[/QUOTE] What anyone does in the name of Islam reflects on all Muslims in the world. Because people tends to put everyone on the same side. One does it = All does that.

[QUOTE=Dark Kite;45674177]It's still an accurate representation of what the IS wishes to set up before aiming for a global caliphate. They want the caliphate to cover all land that has sizeable Muslim populations.[/QUOTE] No it isn't. Its what someone managed to conquer during a video game session.

What video game is it from? I'm curious

[QUOTE=Hat-Wearing Man;45688595]What video game is it from? I'm curious[/QUOTE] Looks like one the Paradox games. I'd say Victoria 2.

We're up to part 5 of this documentary now, and the vast majority of it seems to be nothing but pissed off Muslims ranting religious rhetoric into the camera. I was really looking forward to a serious look inside IS, but it's just turned out to be a bunch of bullshit.