Alright, so let's say that there's no research that shows that a ketogenic diet is effective at fat loss, it's still more effective for me, so I'll keep on doing it until I either reach my target weight, or it stops working. The same goes for most people I know who have tried it. If you've had trouble losing fat on it, then whatever, it's not for you, everyone's different. For me, what you're saying works better doesn't do jack shit for me, while what you're saying is a bunch of bullshit is working wonders. After adapting to the diet, I've had very few of the issues that everyone's been talking about.
Keto is effective for fat loss, but its GAY AS FAURK!
No one doubted the ability of the keto diet. Every caloric manipulation you do to your body would have an effect rather you like it or not.
Your last response confirmed you were just trying to deny the fact someone thinks otherwise about a diet you're utilizing (at the moment) so this argument is pretty invalid, as you don't really listen to what Jager has to say, you just want to feel good about yourself.
A study from last year about Keto's benefits:
[url]http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20807839[/url]
I tend to assume too much of one nothing or the other way around, just with everything in life, causes mayhem in your body. "Low carb diets" offer actually carbs with fat and protein. Everything is pretty much balanced and if you know what you're doing, you'll feel great and get good results.
But leaving that aside, that diet wasn't built or utilized with athletes of high level for a reason. That shit was made ages ago as a primitive way to control seizures with children. This diet helps control an unhealthy body with an unhealthy approach. Obviously it would be awesome for them, but not for you, a healthy human. It wasn't made for body fat reductions.
I don't care if you are enjoying a ketogenic diet, I care that you are spouting utter shit like "carbs make you fat, you need to avoid carbs because insulin :((" <--- which is so wrong it isn't funny, as like I said before, if insulin was the defining factor, protein would make everyone super fat, because a lot of protein sources are either as insulinogenic, or more insulinogenic than most carb sources.
If a keto diet is good for you, fine. But this guy needs to try just moderately reducing his calories and getting more quality exercise first, if it really doesn't work for him, then he can try a ketogenic diet.
The major problem with keto diets is low compliance. Carb cravings, not being able to eat socially (without going to pains), etc. In my mind, if someone is going to go to that trouble, they are better off going all the way and doing something like PSMF for a short intense period, which has been demonstrated well, clinically and anecdotally, to strip off bodyfat very fast.
I've had no issues with cravings or eating socially, I just make an exception to my diet when I eat out like a normal human being. It's not that hard to cheat reasonably. And for the cravings, The only thing I've really been having cravings for are tortillas and bread, because of how convenient they are for quick meals.
But I guess you're right, the best diet is a diet you can stick to for life, and the OP should try a traditional, balanced, low-calorie diet before trying out a ketogenic diet.
I have been going a low-calorie diet and managed to barely scrape off a few pounds within the month, I was just wondering if keto will increase the speed of fat loss
Lol when I was bulking I was eating probobly 200-300g carbs a day, for 4 month, lol packed on 20lbs.
Of guess what? Muscle and some water. Didn't even bloat.
[QUOTE=Toasticle;33832307]I have been going a low-calorie diet and managed to barely scrape off a few pounds within the month, I was just wondering if keto will increase the speed of fat loss[/QUOTE]
no theyre p much the same thing holy shit you guys are fucking stupid
i leave for a few months and the forums been reverted to discussing this shit again
[QUOTE=JaegerMonster;33821428]Holy fuck you guys are retarded and need to stop spending time on low-carb fanatic websites.
If you think insulin spikes are the reason you are fat, then you may as well stop eating protein, because most sources of protein are just as insulin spiking (if not more so) as most sources of carbohydrate.
Seriously the shit you are spouting gamerkiwi is based off research that is old as fuck and was poorly conducted in the first place.
People that are scared of carbs are retarded, and low-carb diets are infinitely stupid. Carbohydrates contribute to lipolysis on a small level. Not to mention keep muscle glycogen in a positive state, are an ergogenic aid to anaerobic activity (performance enhancing) etc...
If you are in a caloric deficit, IT DOESN'T FUCKING MATTER. There is a video log on youtube of a guy who has just done his cut from 12% to 8% bodyfat, EATING ICECREAM <--- that's milk protein and lactose sugars, all HIGHLY insulinogenic. By retarded low-carb fanatic logic, he should've been piling on fat. Instead, he got lean. Very lean. You know why? He was in a caloric deficit, his body is going to catabolize tissue regardless of what you eat.
Goddamn, I hate all of you fruity breath, bad B.O, ketosis obsessed motherfuckers. Ketogenic diets can suck my dick, if i wasn't so deathly afraid of getting ketone filled saliva all over my pretty dick.
[editline]21st December 2011[/editline]
oh holy fuck I just saw you mentioned glycemic index. I want to ram a spoon into your eye socket.[/QUOTE]
thank you for this post
posts like gamerkiwis are reasons why I don't frequent this section because holy fuck it's so stupid it hurts my brain
didnt jaeger and i argue with you in the news section about poor people being fat and you wouldnt listen to shit and just stuck to your ignorant beliefs??
[editline]22nd December 2011[/editline]
regardless from the post im replying to and the others ive seen from you throughout the forum you seem to be r e a l ly arrogant!!!!!!!!! like holy shit annoyingly so. like that fuckin kid across that street with the rich parents who always had some expensive shit and rubbed it in your face but the kid had no friends and noone liked him and he cried alot
Yes.
[QUOTE=Casnus;33843740]didnt jaeger and i argue with you in the news section about poor people being fat and you wouldnt listen to shit and just stuck to your ignorant beliefs??[/QUOTE]
who is this in response to?
the guy jaeger and 90% of this forum had a crush on a bit ago ( [url]http://www.facepunch.com/threads/1094249[/url] romanticized as tyson in this op)
[editline]22nd December 2011[/editline]
fuckin wow you killed me in terraria gg now i lost my coins
What the fuck you downy motherfucker, that's not Tyson I used for a picture of you lmfao.
That's Terry Crews, also once known as, chicken legs.
tyson michael shaq terry
all black people look the same me included
[QUOTE=Toasticle;33832307]I have been going a low-calorie diet and managed to barely scrape off a few pounds within the month, I was just wondering if keto will increase the speed of fat loss[/QUOTE]
What was your calorie count in a day?
Quick results / instant gratification = 98% of people on the planet.
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