[QUOTE=Quq;27580179]why do you like helping others and making them feel good?
is my guess[/QUOTE]
Late reply, but nope.
I do it because people deserve help, especially when they ask for it or people occasionally come to me for it. I don't get tingly feelings. All I know is that I'm doing the right thing, but that doesn't matter to me. What matters to me is that I helped someone.
How the hell did this turn into a religious/philisophical argument? He's just happy that he is receiving good will in the same way that he is giving it.
[QUOTE=Badal;27584404]How the hell did this turn into a religious/philisophical argument? He's just happy that he is receiving good will in the same way that he is giving it.[/QUOTE]
He's happy because he expects people to gift back for him being nice.
I think that while his actions are good, his intentions are selfish. You be nice to be nice. Not to gain things.
Alternatively you be a dick and have fun.
[QUOTE=Robbobin;27580970]I wrote an essay a few days ago explaining why doing good things for the sake of people doing good things back, is the most rational cause for being nice. I'm not saying altruism/benevolence don't exist, but they're irrational.
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Evolution_of_Cooperation[/url]
It's fascinating stuff.[/QUOTE]
That is a fundamentally flawed way of thinking and can't possibly be correct. By saying Altruism exists but in a convoluted state, you are accepted that it is possible for actions to be selfless. But you say MOSTLY actions are done for personal gain, but how do you distinguish the two if you don't know what the person is trying to get? It's pretty much circular reasoning, your hypothesis is correct BY your hypothesis being correct
On the 31th, I was waiting at the bus, when some elderly guy walked drunk around.
I ignored it, and continued waiting for the bus.
Suddenly, the old drunk fell, and we rushed to assistance.
Long story short, I waited there with some really friendly girls, and ended up giving them $50 for a taxi so they could drive with him to the hospital.
I then jumped in my own taxi, as I was tired of waiting for the bus. The man in the taxi had seen what I had done, and stopped the taxi-o-meter at $20, giving me half price off. :buddy:
-snip-
I wish karma was real :(
[QUOTE=imasillypiggy;27595626]I wish karma was real :([/QUOTE]
or maybe it is real and you wishing that gives you negative karma that makes it so you can't get positive karma
I was up at a ski resort for a weekend, and this kid called me fat right before we went down. He went to the cliffs, and I went to the trash.
I lost track of him and didn't see him make it down, and I figured he went to a different part and is still up there. Because I wanted to bitch at him.
A few minutes later, I see the ski patrol coming down and the motherfucker is on a stretcher, turns out he broke 3 vertebrae and fractured 7 ribs.
dam karma
dammmm
[QUOTE=Fatfatfatty;27560378]Karma is not real. :colbert:[/QUOTE]
Looks like we have an expert on this sort of thing.
[QUOTE=TheDudeGuy;27595826]Looks like we have an expert on this sort of thing.[/QUOTE]
well I guess you could call him an expert at life since he has been alive for atleast 4 years and since Karma is something you would notice over time in life if it were real I think hes able to say that after 14 years of study he has never seen a relation between being good and having good things happen to you.
But I enjoy meat!
I try to be a good, decent, kind person. I like to help people without wanting anything in return.
I haven't been truly happy in years and I have gotten nothing :smith:
[QUOTE=Trogdon;27587934]That is a fundamentally flawed way of thinking and can't possibly be correct. By saying Altruism exists but in a convoluted state, you are accepted that it is possible for actions to be selfless. But you say MOSTLY actions are done for personal gain, but how do you distinguish the two if you don't know what the person is trying to get? It's pretty much circular reasoning, your hypothesis is correct BY your hypothesis being correct[/QUOTE]
That's not what I mean at all; I never said anything about actions being done for personal gain most of the time.
All I said is that acting contrary to your desires (as altruism implies in some circumstances) is irrational, which is pretty hard to deny.
I'm not making any empirical claims about why people act in certain ways whatsoever. I am not a psychological egoist.
I believe in karma more or less. I do, how ever, believe in the Ying Yang, good must balance bad, lets me know if things are going good, I should prepare for the worst, and if they're bad, good will come.
Karma is just a name people put on luck so they could believe in a "justifyed" reason on why somthing happened.
[QUOTE=TheDudeGuy;27595826]Looks like we have an expert on this sort of thing.[/QUOTE]
But you dont have to be an expert to say metaphysics is just wishful thinking.
[quote=zerominus;27561593]if you eat eggs will turn into a chicken, then in the afterlife lay eggs for all eternity?[/quote]
When you die nothing happens, there is no reincarnation.
You guys realize that hinduism (the religion that invented karma), specifically stated that your karma only applied to your next life. The overall karma you have obtained over life is translated (somehow) and depending on how good or bad you were, your next life will be better or worse (respectively).
IT'S NOT FUCKING KARMA.
[QUOTE=Niko Bellic;27597329]But I enjoy meat![/QUOTE]
I enjoy meat too :smug:
The only thing I have to say on the subject of Karma is Oskar Schindler.
Saved thousands of jews.
Died old, alone, poor, and sick.
(Unless Karma is anti-semetic, I think it speaks for itself)
I try to avoid, supersticious thought in my life even Karma. It's better to think I can do good things, and know that something horrible will happen to me in exchange. That's pretty much my life.
[QUOTE=1337sause;27560368]Things like this make me want to do more good things, because I know that at some point in time it will return to me. Its a nice feeling knowing that if you help someone in need, one day you might be in their position and need the same help, and get it.[/QUOTE]
Good people do good things just because they're good, not because they'll eventually get something out of it.
[QUOTE=perp2;27603182]When you die nothing happens, there is no reincarnation.[/QUOTE]
You can't prove or disprove that.
[QUOTE=brandsmanato;27560524]Hi, my name is Earl....[/QUOTE]
Hello Earl
Good for you, grats on that :)
Anyway just be careful who you decide to help to get anything in return.
All I'm saying is that don't expect to get shit in return, except those you know for sure are worth putting time and effort into. :)
I know several people who are like, hey can I have a ride to town tomorrow? And if I'm like yeah sure they're like great you're the man! but if I say nah I'm sick so I won't go tomorrow, they would be like okay well too bad please can't you just suck it up and go anyway?
Those kinda people obviously don't give a shit about me and can go fuck themselves! It can't be more simple..
Choose wisely :) I agree that it really pays back to be a nice person and show people that you're willing to do something for them. Just don't expect to get shit in return from anyone and you may get a positive surprise some day :)
Have a nice day
If you eat eggs in a life, in afterlife eggs will eat you.
A while back there was a day when my brother in law was being more of a dick than usual.
Next morning, I was woken by the sound of him falling down my stairs.
[i]My pillows have never felt warmer nor fuzzier.[/i]
One time someone punched me.
Then i wanted to just push him away and somehow completely by accident my leg slipped and hit him in the crotch.
Well, that maybe wasn't karma at all.
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