It's funny how they think it's easier to try and change an entire society's view of fat people rather than running on a treadmill every once in a while.
[QUOTE=Zeke129;39139056]I don't see why you would need to be on the fence about the concept of "treat others with respect as long as they aren't hurting you". Everything you just said above could be tweaked to justify disrespect for marijuana users, people who drink booze, people who sit at the computer too long, so forth.
Besides, it's completely possible (and common) to be outside of the what the current accepted weight range in society is and still be healthy. (How many "fit" people you know spend all day lounging around, eating junk food, or otherwise doing "fat guy" things? Admit it, we all know a couple people like that - those people might weigh the perfect amount but they'll be less healthy than a fat person who eats reasonably and gets a moderate amount of exercise)
The whole point of the fat acceptance movement is to promote health and happiness over appearance, which when put down in words seems like common sense, but then we have people such as the OP who prove that common sense is a rare commodity.[/QUOTE]
That is what I got from the OP video, it isn't about "I'm fat, leave me alone and feel bad for me" as others have pointed out. Basically everyone is genetically different, you can be big but healthy, small and unhealthy. The video was more about obtaining a healthy lifestyle and treat others with the same level of respect you would want. Trying fight against the whole "perfect image" stereotype.
And all the posts above me just prove that people don't understand what she was trying to get across.
It's not even about exercising. That's the biggest problem with all of this.
You don't even have to get up off the couch to lose weight. Just eat less. Just tell yourself "no" when you want to tear up a pint of Ben & Jerry's.
People make it out to be so much more complicated than it really is. At the end of the day, no matter how much your stomach grumbles or whatever, it is your choice to put food in your mouth. Choose to put in less and you will lose weight. Exercise helps, especially when it comes down to make you look better, but it isn't necessary.
[QUOTE=Shovelpass;39143283]It's not even about exercising. That's the biggest problem with all of this.
You don't even have to get up off the couch to lose weight. Just eat less. Just tell yourself "no" when you want to tear up a pint of Ben & Jerry's.
People make it out to be so much more complicated than it really is. At the end of the day, no matter how much your stomach grumbles or whatever, it is your choice to put food in your mouth. Choose to put in less and you will lose weight. Exercise helps, especially when it comes down to make you look better, but it isn't necessary.[/QUOTE]
It really is more complicated than that.
It may not seem like it is, but on average overweight and obese people have more mental health issues, usually stress, because of their weight even if they are still in a healthy weight range.
This is because society tells all of us that being fat is never okay.
These social stresses can cause people to feel like they are powerless to change themselves and can even lead to depression.
"~98% Diets don't work"
Diets aren't some magic solution that turns you skinny forever, with the diet you have to change as well!
I have seen alot where fat people take their diets, lose weight and immediately after finishing go back to their old ways and thus gain it all back. And then they go preaching "DIETS DONT WORKKK ITS ALL CORPORATE MUMBO JUMBO" and immediately discourage those who CAN bring positive change to their lives and eat healthily.
Sure there shouldn't be any derogatory looks or "discrimination" against fat people, but come on, don't say it's not their fault, in very very VERY few cases is it actually caused by a problem with the body.
I mean there's assholes who will discriminate against anything, anyways.
I never really understood this. Are people so utterly disgusted by people being fat that they can't bear to just... not care? It's their bodies, in my opinion they can do what they want with them. Sure, if there's something that makes overweight people more awkward to deal with, it's perfectly fair to make the person involved do something to assist, because they should be able to deal with the things they do for themselves (of course, if it's a genuine medical issue then that's a different story entirely). But if somebody chooses to be overweight, I think that's nobody's business but theirs until they start to resent it- that's when you help them out to help lose weight, rather than just saying 'Go for a run, fatty!'. Obviously, this is just an opinion, but hey, my tuppence on the matter.
[quote]I can never become any smaller than this. It is physically impossible for my body to get smaller.[/quote] I don't understand. Does she mean it is impossible for her to lose weight? Because I'm pretty sure that if she'd lose some weight she would get a bit smaller.
If I had my way I'd just bring back the rations, should stop anyone from getting fat unless they have access to a black market of food or grow their own.
I agree with not discriminating because these things take time. You can't just hope to be taken off the bus by accident by an old man who mistook you for his walking stick when you are larger than a whale, it just doesn't happen. They need to feel bad about their bodies to motivate them to do something about it but not be insulted in the process.
[QUOTE=Valnar;39143879]It really is more complicated than that.
It may not seem like it is, but on average overweight and obese people have more mental health issues, usually stress, because of their weight even if they are still in a healthy weight range.
This is because society tells all of us that being fat is never okay.
These social stresses can cause people to feel like they are powerless to change themselves and can even lead to depression.[/QUOTE]
And at the end of the day, they still choose to gorge on food. It is always a choice.
I understand some people do not have the willpower to overcome those things. I'm not saying they are lesser human beings for that or anything like that, it's just the way things are.
However, that's what it comes down to. Not genetics, not stress, not medication, not money, but willpower. You either have it or you don't. It's okay if you don't, it's just ridiculous to blame other things when at the end of the day you are the one choosing to overeat.
i feel bad for people with hereditary weight problems. its the truth
Stop eating cake, start exercising. diets rarely work by themselves. start going to the gym(get your friends to join you), and you will not only get more fit and more healthy, but also get more confidence. it's not about doing it for others, but for yourself!
(damn, I should start selling stuff)
I'm a skinny fuck. Really skinny. I'm actually underweight, which in recent discussion- seems to be more unhealthy than being overweight.
While I do have a fast metabolism that's not why I'm skinny. I just [i]don't eat[/i]. Sometimes I forget to eat. Not to mention I don't do any heavy lifting or eat proper foods to put meat on my bones. That's all changing now. I've got myself a gym subscription. Started eating a proper healthy diet, take cod liver oil every morning and get proper nutrition. It's mostly my fault for being skinny, but my genetics made me start off skinny. That's the key word I guess "start off".
I know quite a lot of fat people that have trimmed down amazingly. They changed their diet, started cardio and just basically did something about their weight problem. I don't find it acceptable to make fun of someone's weight (then again I don't find it acceptable to make fun of people), but I do find it acceptable to tell people how it really is when they can't accept the fact that something is mostly their fault. Sure, it may be harder for someone to lose weight than the other, but nonetheless that person can lose weight.
Fatties who haven't accepted the fact that it's their fault that they're fat should do something about their weight problem. Otherwise they're entitled to just as much ridicule as I get for being a toothpick because in all honesty, there are assholes on this planet. A lot of assholes that don't really give a shit about how certain words make you feel and you will always find that someone will ridicule you for your weight. So either suck it up or do something about it.
/rant
[QUOTE=yurbuttstinks;39144555]i feel bad for people with hereditary weight problems. its the truth[/QUOTE]
Except for the fact that more than 90 percent of the people who are overweight don't have any hereditary illness they can blame it on.
[QUOTE=yurbuttstinks;39144555]i feel bad for people with hereditary weight problems. its the truth[/QUOTE]
Like what? Hyperthyroidism?
[img]http://i47.tinypic.com/4l501w.jpg[/img]
There's no magical genetic condition that causes people's bodies to defy the laws of thermodynamics.
I'm fat because I'm a lazy piece of shit and I love bad food, this woman is fucking ridiculous.
[QUOTE=Shovelpass;39148041]
There's no magical genetic condition that causes people's bodies to defy the laws of thermodynamics.[/QUOTE]
I've had hypothyroidism for over 5 years now and I'll say that nothing could be more true. The difference between a patient treated and untreated is bloating [b]not[/b] obesity.
Using hypothyroidism as an excuse for your weight is so paltry.
It might be true that we have a harder time losing weight than most but that doesn't seem to be the case for me whatsoever. It might be the fact that I workout regularly and am medicated but I still maintain a physique more athletic than 90% of the population.
This fat acceptance bullshit really bothers me, especially when people falsely claim "glandular problems". It's offensive to people like me who have to deal with it.
I didn't accept being a scrawny in middle school, and I sure as fuck didn't accept the belly I was putting on after getting lazy post BMT.
If I don't have to respect super models and people who are anorexic, I don't have to respect 'fat' people. There's big boned, and then there's fat. It's not like I've been on either end of the extreme, but I've taken a baby step out of the norm both ways. Unless you have a (legit) medical, physical or mental disorder - there's no excuse for being 'fat' other than yourself. :v:
(I totally agree with not making fun of fat people, but that's because it's not right to up and randomly make fun of people face-to-face in general.)
[QUOTE=Doom14;39148670]I didn't accept being a scrawny in middle school, and I sure as fuck didn't accept the belly I was putting on after getting lazy post BMT.
If I don't have to respect super models and people who are anorexic, I don't have to respect 'fat' people. There's big boned, and then there's fat. It's not like I've been on either end of the extreme, but I've taken a baby step out of the norm both ways. Unless you have a (legit) medical, physical or mental disorder - there's no excuse for being 'fat' other than yourself. :v:
(I totally agree with not making fun of fat people, but that's because it's not right to up and randomly make fun of people face-to-face in general.)[/QUOTE]
You do know that anorexia is an eating disorder right?
Why wouldn't you respect people with a disorder?
[QUOTE=Valnar;39148706]You do know that anorexia is an eating disorder right?[/QUOTE]
I'm was using it as to body size. Not to the actual disorder.
[QUOTE=Valnar;39148706]
Why wouldn't you respect people with a disorder?[/QUOTE]
Serious question, are you fat? Because you're always so militant about defending fat and scrawny people.
You can recognize you have a problem and do something about it. Anorexia is often a self induced and irrational disorder. I don't have to respect that one bit.
[editline]8th January 2013[/editline]
Disorders like anorexia often indicate a lack of character and/or intelligence
[QUOTE=Strider*;39148757]
You can recognize you have a problem and do something about it. Anorexia is often a self induced and irrational disorder.[/QUOTE]
umm are all mental disorders "self-induced"???
and of course its irrational, that's why its a mental disorder
[QUOTE=Strider*;39148757]
Disorders like anorexia often indicate a lack of character and/or intelligence[/QUOTE]
your posts indicate a lack of character and/or intelligence
[QUOTE=Strider*;39148757]Serious question, are you fat? Because you're always so militant about defending fat and scrawny people.
You can recognize you have a problem and do something about it. Anorexia is often a self induced and irrational disorder. I don't have to respect that one bit.
[editline]8th January 2013[/editline]
Disorders like anorexia often indicate a lack of character and/or intelligence[/QUOTE]
I'm not fat.
I have this view because often when it comes to weight there tends to be some sort of mental issues involved too.
These mental issues are generally due to the stress of being overweight or obese in a society that doesn't accept being overweight.
A lot of people don't really understand those mental health issues behind weight and tend to just say something like "lol fatty" which only makes things worse.
Like you for example, you don't have any understanding of what eating disorders actually are.
What you said about anorexia is like saying people who are depressed should just make an effort to feel happier. It shows that you don't really know anything about anorexia.
I recommend this website
[url]http://www.yourefatbecauseyourestupid.com/[/url]
this should help some of you
fuck the fat acceptance movement
[editline]9th January 2013[/editline]
and I quote
[quote]You’re fat because you eat too much!
Let’s just start with that. You don’t have a weight problem, you have an eating problem!!
If you’re fat, you’re eating too much damn food. Period. It’s not your parent’s fault for giving you the “fat” gene. It may be their fault that they made you like food so much, but for once in your fat life let’s stop blaming other people, OK?
But I can hear you whining already, like you always do. You don’t *really* eat much, right? You might even go so far as to say “But, I only eat salad”. Yes, I’ve heard that before. SHUT THE FUCK UP, YOU FAT LIAR!! Guess what, “salad” didn’t come inside those Big Mac wrappers in your back seat. All 25 of them. You fucking lying piece of shit, you eat a salad in front of everyone when you go out to lunch and act like you’re eating healthy then you go home and down a quart of ice cream after your fried chicken.
If this relationship is going to work, you need to be truthful to not only me, but yourself. Look in the mirror right now and say, “I am a big fatbody because I eat too much damn food.” There. Now we can move on.[/quote]
[QUOTE=Valnar;39148975]What you said about anorexia is like saying people who are depressed should just make an effort to feel happier. It shows that you don't really know anything about anorexia.[/QUOTE]
No that's not what I'm saying at all.
There is medication for depression and therapy for anorexia.
shiiiieeeet, I'm 6'2 and probably 250 something, cause I'm a lazy mother fucker, that and winter sucks for biking.
Also if I walk for awhile, I get a fucking rash between my thighs, right near the crotch, then I have to walk like I got a cucumber up my ass
not fun
[QUOTE=SatansSin;39149095]
Also if I walk for awhile, I get a fucking rash between my thighs, right near the crotch, then I have to walk like I got a cucumber up my ass
not fun[/QUOTE]
try bathing
[QUOTE=Dori;39148934]your posts indicate a lack of character and/or intelligence[/QUOTE]
I wouldn't be surprised if you, like the girl in the OP, also go to a community college.
I'm astonished that you would criticize my posting when you're one of the most arrogant and ignorant members of this forum.
Get over yourself dude.
[editline]8th January 2013[/editline]
[QUOTE=thisispain;39148916]umm are all mental disorders "self-induced"???[/QUOTE]
No
[QUOTE=Strider*;39149081]No that's not what I'm saying at all.
There is medication for depression and therapy for anorexia.[/QUOTE]
You said "Disorders like anorexia often indicate a lack of character and/or intelligence"
that shows that you have as much misunderstanding about mental health as someone saying that depressed people should just feel happy.
You are blaming the person with the disorder for having the disorder.
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