Pissing of the world, Burning One Qur'an and bible at a time.
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[QUOTE=Bllasae;24782618]Lol! You're nowhere NEAR republican, if you want to burn the bible.[/QUOTE]
Its for experiments sake, I want to see who flips a bitch from which one i burn. I am strongly conservative. I read the bible sometimes.
hey guy's i'm the OP i get bullied a lot so i'm going to say that everyone is dumb except me mmmkay
this thread is so full of stupid and i didnt have to leave in a few minutes i would take it apart.
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[QUOTE=BrickInHead;24782221]that's a waste of money i'd rather not buy it in the first place and not support the mass commercialization of a religion thank you
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hng I just had an aneurysm this post is so idiotic
listen
saying the bible is based on lies is like saying oliver twist is based on lies, like saying animal farm is based on lies, like saying shakespeare is based on lies
it's fiction and a way to convey a message you twit[/QUOTE]
i dont recall the part in romeo and juliet where it said to stone disobedient children and that this book was the truth.
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[QUOTE=AuRonchampion;24783092]Ok first the burning of another religions sacred book is just wrong. This is coming from a guy who thinks that everyone in the world probably deserves to die. Second the point of these books is to deliver hope and encouragement to those who are not self sufficient. They may not be the truth but they provide comfort for people who would have otherwise not been able to survive. Third, burning the book will just cause more people to believe in its non-sense. Take for example the martyrs in history. When rulers crucified those that believed in a certain religion the religion did not die it got stronger. In short you need to shut the fuck up before you make the political situation any worse than it already is.[/QUOTE]
there is nothing wrong with burning a symbol to convey your disagreement with everything that it represents.
[QUOTE=Kybalt;24783953]i dont recall the part in romeo and juliet where it said to stone disobedient children and that this book was the truth.[/QUOTE]
k first off it's not stone disobedient children, it's chop off their hands or beat them to death
and 2 if you think you need to approach the bible from a fundamentalist perspective (which very few do) then you're just as bad as fundamentalists themselves because you refuse to actually engage the text with any thought whatsoever
gj
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there is nothing wrong with burning a symbol to convey your disagreement with everything that it represents.[/QUOTE]
Other than causing all kinds of political turmoil.
[QUOTE=Octave;24781376]Actually, some of the stories have good morals, such as treat people the way you want to be treated, etc, even if they are made up. They help a lot of people get through life.[/QUOTE]
It's done far more bad than good. I wouldn't sacrifice a life for good morals, so propaganda like the Bible, Qur'an, Torah etc. should not exist in a world of free speech, as parents are actively teaching their children something that is not based on truth, but rather assumptions that there is a creator that had a spark one day and decided to put together a complex universe. Also; god is mentioned as omnipotent and omniscient, if he is, though, he would not need to [I]invent[/I] the universe. It would be there already.
[QUOTE=Sickle;24784567]It's done far more bad than good. I wouldn't sacrifice a life for good morals, so propaganda like the Bible, Qur'an, Torah etc. should not exist in a world of free speech, as parents are actively teaching their children something that is not based on truth, but rather assumptions that there is a creator that had a spark one day and decided to put together a complex universe. Also; god is mentioned as omnipotent and omniscient, if he is, though, he would not need to [I]invent[/I] the universe. It would be there already.[/QUOTE]
What's wrong with that being taught to children? It's not like each and every one goes on to become an extremist, or even a religious person. It may be an untruth, but in most people, where religious beliefs don't cause harm to others, there's no problem.
[QUOTE=Sickle;24781313]Those books have caused nothing but bullshit and are based on lies. Though burning them will do no better to show them the error of their ways.[/QUOTE]
That is a massive generalization. All religions, at their base, order people to be good, and all share the same moral order that even atheists live by... y'know, "don't murder, don't steal unless you have to, don't fuck my wife", et cetera. I don't see what's wrong with kids being taught THAT. Telling them that there's a man in the sky who controls everything should be prefixed by "some people believe" though, yeah.
It's the unfortunate misinterpretations/misuse/additions to religious scriptures that allow people to use the "it's my religion" excuse to do intolerant shit. I bet there are loads of Christians, Muslims and Jews out there who hate, respectively, the Westboro Baptist Church, Al-Qaeda, and Zionists.
Burning bibles and qu'rans is more intolerant than the religions themselves. You don't often hear of conflicting religions burning each other's scriptures. It just makes you another person in OP's proclaimed "world of idiots".
[QUOTE=TehDoomCat;24785061]That is a massive generalization. [B]All religions, at their base, order people to be good[/B], and all share the same moral order that even atheists live by. I don't see what's wrong with kids being taught THAT. Telling them that there's a man in the sky who controls everything should be prefixed by "some people believe" though, yeah.
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More so, 'stay in line', than 'be good'. And along with that fact, they are formulated to give power to the churches that preach their ideas. The only reason atheists 'live by' this code, is because moral society had been infused with years and years of tactical religious rules. This ensures that no matter how bad things get for, christianity, for instance, they will always be recognized as a power, since people will say, 'Oh yeah, so that's why we do[I] x[/I]'.
[QUOTE=RacistRace;24781230]WELL GUYS, Since the world is full of idiots i think we should take advantage of that. I am urging anyone who is simply pissed off by media retardation and/or Religious conflict and bullshit, To goto a nearby store that sells books and Buy a Qur'an and a Bible and video tape and/or take picture(s) of you burning it, Seriously people its a god damned book that has caused Genocide, Armed Conflicts, And other bullshit. Lets get a simple message out people.[/QUOTE]
Because fueling hate will really solved hate right?
Even though I'm an atheist, I get squeamish at the thought of burning [I]any[/I] book. This idea is bad and you should feel bad.
You should ONLY burn twilight books
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Don't be dumb
[QUOTE=o DefcoN o;24781429]If I was in America I would go to Ground Zero and burn a bible.[/QUOTE]
You would probably be shot by one of the protesting Conservatives.
[QUOTE=Sickle;24785199]More so, 'stay in line', than 'be good'. And along with that fact, they are formulated to give power to the churches that preach their ideas. The only reason atheists 'live by' this code, is because moral society had been infused with years and years of tactical religious rules. This ensures that no matter how bad things get for, christianity, for instance, they will always be recognized as a power, since people will say, 'Oh yeah, so that's why we do[I] x[/I]'.[/QUOTE]
When I say "all religions" I'm including things like Buddhism in this as well. Buddhism and Hinduism don't exactly follow the "stay in line" mantra.
Plus modern Christianity (I mean what Jesus preached) was based somewhat on Jewish Law at the time, which centered around protecting people, and was pretty compassionate. Ergo, the Old Testament is all "God will fuck your shit up if you put a foot out of line", the New Testament is all like "Maaan, I love everybody".
I reckon without religion we'd probably still have the same basic morality. It seems to me that some stuff is hardwired. Which is what I meant when I said Atheists follow the same rules. Yes, these rules are forced upon everyone by [i]society as a whole[/i], but not necessarily by religion.
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Op is dumb.
[QUOTE=Kingy_who;24782146]I'd bring a bible, a Torah and a qur'an, burn all three at ground zero and say these all say to kill those who do not follow their religion.[/QUOTE]
Bible does not say to kill people who don't follow the religion. That's the Qur'an... And the torah is in the bible already... it might be sold as a separate book in some places, but a standard bible has that integrated.
this is a bad
idea and you should feel bad
[QUOTE=Octave;24781273]Yeah but those books also cause a lot of good things to happen, it's just some extremists take things too far and interpret them too literally or w/e.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, it's done a whole lotta good things, just look at all those priests driving their sportscars and only working sundays.
[QUOTE=Vinze;24791597]Yeah, it's done a whole lotta good things, just look at all those priests driving their sportscars and only working sundays.[/QUOTE]
I've never heard of that... But thats just the catholic church, the bible doesn't give guidelines for how the church's hierarchy should work, it was just some bs they made up. The church certainly has some unfair elements, but it's workings are separate from the bible's teachings.
[QUOTE=Octave;24791815]I've never heard of that... But thats just the catholic church, the bible doesn't give guidelines for how the church's hierarchy should work, it was just some bs they made up. The church certainly has some unfair elements, but it's workings are separate from the bible's teachings.[/QUOTE]
That's true, the bible does suggest that you need to make like a neo-nazi and go out there and kill all jews and hindus. Well, the original, real edition does anyways.
You can defend religion all you want, it's still the prime cause of war, death and suffering. Weather it's the nazis or the spanish inqusition, religion makes mankind less bearable. Because when fanatics clash, rivers of blood is soon to follow.
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