Science - The Long Game - General

I make sure I get a dose of science every day... [img_thumb]http://itech.dickinson.edu/chemistry/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/thc-skeletal.png[/img_thumb]

Very nicely put OP :golfclap:

I always loved science and its subjects ever since I was little. Astronomy, chemistry, engineering, I was the only one in class to enjoy science class. During my "astronomy phase" I was very intrigued by the Apollo missions, and all its aspects. When I heard on the news that the moon is now "boring" and that there's no need to try anymore space exploration, I raged. The fact that we were able to send people away from the very land that we all lived on up into space and land upon another surface excited me to no end. Our ability to push the boundaries of what we go do and go fascinated me, including the process by how we got to that accomplishment. Our ability to do this things that which were deemed impossible is a beautiful thing.

[QUOTE=sp00ks;23866525]Anyone studying biology here? If yes, can you tell me how much math is involved? [editline]09:49AM[/editline] I'm guessing you mean you deconverted. Unless you're now a member of another religion?[/QUOTE] I'm starting my first year of college soon. I'm going to transfer to a bigger university for Marine Biology in about 2 years. As of now I only know that i'm required to have at least college algebra and calculus to transfer.

[QUOTE=Tacosheller;23870538]Convert means to change beliefs, not necessarily from one religion to another.[/QUOTE] Athiesm isn't a belief. It doesn't make sense to believe in a negative. In much the same way that so called "flatworlders" aren't defined by not believeing the earth is round, rather they are defined by their belief that the world is flat. The only reason "athiests" have been given a term is because in the present day it is more uncommon than it is common.

[img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/73/Pale_Blue_Dot.png[/img] Pale Blue Bot Makes you realize how small and insignificant we are compared to the vastness of space.

[QUOTE=winsanity;23878149][img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/73/Pale_Blue_Dot.png[/img] Pale Blue Bot Makes you realize how small and insignificant we are compared to the vastness of space.[/QUOTE] True. [url=http://www.shatters.net/celestia/]Celestia[/url] does that quite well as well.

I love science. Science is cool. Speaking of science, Myth busters makes science even cooler :v:

[QUOTE=Deutschbag;23879198]True. [url=http://www.shatters.net/celestia/]Celestia[/url] does that quite well as well.[/QUOTE] This too: [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17jymDn0W6U&feature=player_embedded[/media]

Science is such a generic and all-encompassing term, so it seems rather lame claiming it to be the greatest concept created, or rather discovered, by humanity. I assume this is a direct contrast directed at religion, but I am willing to say morality(do NOT read as religion) is a contender for the belt. Science would be much less... helpful if unguided by morality. I am a total science geek so don't read this as an attack on science. Just making a point.

[QUOTE=Kagrenak;23864457]I firmly hold that science is the single most important concept that humanity has thought of in its entire existence, no other ideas or styles of thought have ever come even into a close second.[/QUOTE] What about math? Without it science wouldn't even be possible.

I like science, but I can't sit down and read about what happens when you put X and Y together, more of a history person.

[QUOTE=Robber;23879552]What about math? Without it science wouldn't even be possible.[/QUOTE] Maths goes along with it, as I'm talking about Science as a way of knowing and logically describing the physical world, along with the underpinnings of rational thought. Without Science, math would just be abstractions with no relation to reality [editline]05:44PM[/editline] [QUOTE=Jabberwock09;23879550]Science is such a generic and all-encompassing term, so it seems rather lame claiming it to be the greatest concept created, or rather discovered, by humanity. I assume this is a direct contrast directed at religion, but I am willing to say morality(do NOT read as religion) is a contender for the belt. Science would be much less... helpful if unguided by morality. I am a total science geek so don't read this as an attack on science. Just making a point.[/QUOTE] The way I'm using it is to describe the process and means of thought that is used by it, not the disciplines of science in and of themselves. In this way it is not very broad as it only describes one aspect of it.

Someone once said that Math is the language god uses for speaking to us.

[QUOTE=winsanity;23878149][img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/73/Pale_Blue_Dot.png[/img] Pale Blue Bot Makes you realize how small and insignificant we are compared to the vastness of space.[/QUOTE] This picture makes me scared of what's out there. Just thinking of Voyager 1 flying through the absolute silence of deep space. That just scares me for some reason.

Science blows my mind. whether its from how small we are or the worlds biggest computer

[QUOTE=hl2poo;23879855]This picture makes me scared of what's out there. Just thinking of Voyager 1 flying through the absolute silence of deep space. That just scares me for some reason.[/QUOTE] 5.9 Hydrogen atoms for every cubic meter is the approximate density of the universe. Think about that; for every planet or sun, there's so much empty space in between, that the density of the universe only works out to be around 6 hydrogen atoms in every cubic meter. [url]http://map.gsfc.nasa.gov/universe/uni_matter.html[/url]

[QUOTE=Robber;23879552]What about math? Without it science wouldn't even be possible.[/QUOTE] Science IS maths. Biology can be explained by chemistry, chemistry is explained by physics, and the language of physics is mathematics. Maths is the language we use to make sense of the entire universe around us. It's encompassed in that 'science' bracket.

[QUOTE=Killuah;23879755]Someone once said that Math is the language god uses for speaking to us.[/QUOTE] Someone doesn't understand that language isn't usually made up by the person listening in order to understand the meaning of the speaker. [editline]01:30AM[/editline] [QUOTE=hl2poo;23879855]This picture makes me scared of what's out there. Just thinking of Voyager 1 flying through the absolute silence of deep space. That just scares me for some reason.[/QUOTE] Now you see where Lovecraft came from.

[QUOTE=hl2poo;23879855]This picture makes me scared of what's out there. Just thinking of Voyager 1 flying through the absolute silence of deep space. That just scares me for some reason.[/QUOTE] That picture is a fusion of many different emotions for me. For me to be out there to bask in the beauty of space would a dream come true. At the same time it would be saddening to look back on the earth. Carl Sagan sums it up pretty good: [quote]From this distant vantage point, the Earth might not seem of particular interest. But for us, it's different. Consider again that dot. That's here, that's home, that's us. On it everyone you love, everyone you know, everyone you ever heard of, every human being who ever was, lived out their lives. The aggregate of our joy and suffering, thousands of confident religions, ideologies, and economic doctrines, every hunter and forager, every hero and coward, every creator and destroyer of civilization, every king and peasant, every young couple in love, every mother and father, hopeful child, inventor and explorer, every teacher of morals, every corrupt politician, every "superstar," every "supreme leader," every saint and sinner in the history of our species lived there – on a mote of dust suspended in a sunbeam. The Earth is a very small stage in a vast cosmic arena. Think of the rivers of blood spilled by all those generals and emperors so that, in glory and triumph, they could become the momentary masters of a fraction of a dot. Think of the endless cruelties visited by the inhabitants of one corner of this pixel on the scarcely distinguishable inhabitants of some other corner, how frequent their misunderstandings, how eager they are to kill one another, how fervent their hatreds. Our posturings, our imagined self-importance, the delusion that we have some privileged position in the Universe, are challenged by this point of pale light. Our planet is a lonely speck in the great enveloping cosmic dark. In our obscurity, in all this vastness, there is no hint that help will come from elsewhere to save us from ourselves. The Earth is the only world known so far to harbor life. There is nowhere else, at least in the near future, to which our species could migrate. Visit, yes. Settle, not yet. Like it or not, for the moment the Earth is where we make our stand. It has been said that astronomy is a humbling and character-building experience. There is perhaps no better demonstration of the folly of human conceits than this distant image of our tiny world. To me, it underscores our responsibility to deal more kindly with one another, and to preserve and cherish the pale blue dot, the only home we've ever known.[/quote]

I love how christians say 'Well, the Earth is so perfectly aligned and everything worked out so fine that it could only be the work of the god' From what we've seen, we're the only small dot in a sea of solar systems that hosts life, so really, it's surprising that there aren't MORE planets with life, rather than it being surprising that Earth can sustain life. It's inevitable that we'll discover life on another planet one day, because the universe is arguably infinite (Not literally, but expanding at the speed of light or faster, if that is possible.)

[QUOTE=OvB;23864519]Thread music: [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Cd36WJ79z4&hd=1[/media] I love science.[/QUOTE] too much dawkins. dawkins is an insufferable douchebag but there's sagan so that's fine

[img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/04/International_Space_Station_after_undocking_of_STS-132.jpg[/img] The International Space Station is so badass. Multiple countries working together in the name of science, it's awesome.

[QUOTE=winsanity;23901285] The International Space Station looks so badass. Multiple countries working together in the name of science, it's awesome.[/QUOTE] Minus the USA.

[QUOTE=Tukimoshi;23888967]I love how christians say 'Well, the Earth is so perfectly aligned and everything worked out so fine that it could only be the work of the god' From what we've seen, we're the only small dot in a sea of solar systems that hosts life, so really, it's surprising that there aren't MORE planets with life, rather than it being surprising that Earth can sustain life. It's inevitable that we'll discover life on another planet one day, because the universe is arguably infinite (Not literally, but expanding at the speed of light or faster, if that is possible.)[/QUOTE] Anthropic principle. (durrr rate me bad spelling) We only exist here on earth right now at this point in time in the cosmos because at any other point in time earth was not suitable for life. Tadah. Goes both ways, favours all arguments depending on how someone skews it.

[QUOTE=areolop;23901313]Minus the USA.[/QUOTE] Why do you say that?

[QUOTE=areolop;23901313]Minus the USA.[/QUOTE] Explain...

[QUOTE=that1dude24;23865190]I'm around a hospital a lot, and it always makes me sad when I see people who are in hospitals thanking their gods and idols. Completely ignoring the science that made the operation possible, the science that keeps their organ functioning, the doctor that successfully performed the operation. Then they have the nerve to use their success as evidence for their beliefs.[/QUOTE] Perhaps they are thanking god for the science?

[QUOTE=OvB;23864519]Thread music: [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Cd36WJ79z4&hd=1[/media] I love science.[/QUOTE] Someone count the amount of times they say 'Science' in that.

I hate how science is being slowly turned into this... New Age bollocks. Fuck, all this shit about Quantum Mysticism: You should see how the hipsters behind What The Bleep do We Know? turned Quantum Physics into the new magic. All products using "quantum" as a synonym for magic, selling "quantum energy stones". All those idiots squeezing money out of public idiocy. First, for money. But if people start to seriously believe them, it becomes Scientific Priesthood, á la Isaac Asimov's Foundation where they control the population of an entire world ran by coal and oil by showing them the "secrets" of nuclear power, and maintain power by keeping the new nuclear power plants, etc. Specially that retard Deepak Chopra, there are so many people waiting in line to tell him he's a charlatan, but they can't because: 1 - We're too polite. 2 - He always looks like he's about to board a Cessna from a private tarmac in central Colombia, so no.