J-dude nostalgia goggles dumb dumb art hurr i wish every movie was as deep as avatar etc etc
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[QUOTE=King_of_Town;24296655]I saw this with my friends and we laughed at how over-the-top it was. It's a dude movie and that's how you should watch it. This isn't fucking Tarkovsky we're talking about, what's wrong with you guys. I didn't have a whole lot of fun while watching Solaris, but it was incredibly philosophical and thought-provoking. On the other hand, The Expendables was a really really fun movie to see, but nothing else.
It's a [U]fun[/U] movie, not a [U]meaningful[/U] movie. Stop treating it like this was supposed to be a work of art.[/QUOTE]
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To tl;dr j-dude: i like artsy fartsy movies like inception and little miss sunshine
Not saying Inception is bad because it isn't but jesus The Expendables is better than most movies released these few years, keyword is most here.
ALL films should be art, or TRY to be. If there is no art in a film, then the film is a product. Do you know what the lowest common denominator is? It's the dumbest of the dumb, and this is what you're wasting your time with.
[quote]J-dude nostalgia goggles dumb dumb art hurr i wish every movie was as deep as avatar etc etc[/quote]
Avatar is not deep. Please. Nor was Hurt Locker, really. Neither deserved to be the heralded titans they were made out to be in the Oscars. I liked both of them, but they just weren't the "Best Picture". No, THAT should have been between District 9 and Inglourious Basterds. Mainly, because District 9 did "man's inhumanity to man" scifi allegory much better than Avatar, and Basterds has a LOT more to say about the moral chaos of war than Hurt Locker.
Also, what Nostalgia? I'm paying tribute to movies that came out this and last year. If THAT'S what you call nostalgia, then what are you, a fruit fly?
[quote]tl;dr[/quote]
This is the instant calling card of someone I oughtn't take seriously.
[quote] i like artsy fartsy movies like inception and little miss sunshine[/quote]
As I say, good film-making and art are inseparable. If you say you just saw a good movie but can't name what about it was artistic, you either A: aren't cultured enough to realize what the art WAS, or B: didn't actually see a good movie. That part is black and white.
[quote]Not saying Inception is bad because it isn't but jesus The Expendables is better than most movies released these few years, keyword is most here[/quote]
Like what? Shrek 4 was a complete waste of time, Prince of Persia was pretty average and Iron Man 2 was slightly disappointing compared it it's predecessor, and all of these films are BETTER in every way than The Expendables. Cut, print, end of story.
[QUOTE=J-Dude;24326991]ALL films should be art, or TRY to be. If there is no art in a film, then the film is a product. Do you know what the lowest common denominator is? It's the dumbest of the dumb, and this is what you're wasting your time with.
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FILMS ARE PRODUCTS WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT
"durr im a director im not in it to make cash im in it for ZEE ARTTTTT"
The fuck have you been smoking, where did you buy it, how can I get in on it
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ALL films are products*
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Not a SINGLE director or company makes a movie without making a profit being their top priority, if you think otherwise you're pretty clueless
[QUOTE=BurnBlackJay;24327501]FILMS ARE PRODUCTS WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT
"durr im a director im not in it to make cash im in it for ZEE ARTTTTT"
The fuck have you been smoking, where did you buy it, how can I get in on it
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ALL films are products*
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Not a SINGLE director or company makes a movie without making a profit being their top priority, if you think otherwise you're pretty clueless[/QUOTE]
Don't get snippy with me. Of course it's a product. As much as I wish art could exist for art's sake, nothing gets funding without being able to spin gold out of thread.
But there's NO reason, NONE, that a product cannot also be art, or even HIGH art. Especially in the film industry, where half of what is artless garbage has an obscene budget to it's name.
An ideal film industry would follow the Pixar model of business. Namely, making the best quality product that can appeal to everyone, so as to gain a great reputation, and continue to reel in customers by brand-name alone. If you have a budget of millions of any number, you can easily access the talent and the resources to make something truly superb. You may not be able to get an A-lister, you may not be able to get a famous composer, you may not be able to hire ILM, but a good producer or a good director can do what they can with what they've been given, and bring us something that makes THEM money, bolsters THEIR reputation, and ALSO contributes to the stores of art and culture.
But more and more they just stop caring. Instead of going for the best ideas, they go for the ideas that are with whatever is currently popular. Instead of creating their own immortal works, they say, "let's make a movie based on THIS popular retro TV show" and THEN hire someone to write some sorry script around it (looking at you, Yogi).
What I'm saying is, Hollywood is about art and business, but it's not like anyone ever made the two mutually exclusive. You CAN have the best of both worlds if you try, and for the kind of money these people gamble away on this asinine horserace, I never understood how they could afford to STOP trying.
Maybe
Or maybe you have your opinion, and others have their opinion
Still haven't seen it, and I feel bad. Next time I'm around my local cinema, I'll make myself see it. It's just too badass to miss.
[QUOTE=BurnBlackJay;24332214]Or maybe you have your opinion, and others have their opinion[/QUOTE]
Nice observation there. Yeah, people have opinions, awesome. Here's ANOTHER astute observation:
There are two kinds of opinions...there's the opinion that's right...and the opinion that's wrong...
[QUOTE=J-Dude;24332991]There are two kinds of opinions...there's the opinion that's right...and the opinion that's wrong...[/QUOTE]
Well here--
Wait, no, that has to be sarcasm. You have to be being sarcastic. Please tell me you're being sarcastic.
[QUOTE=J-Dude;24332991]Nice observation there. Yeah, people have opinions, awesome. Here's ANOTHER astute observation:
There are two kinds of opinions...there's the opinion that's right...and the opinion that's wrong...[/QUOTE]
Anime avatar
My opinion matters more than yours right now.
J-Dude is one of the few who makes any sense around ehre
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[QUOTE=LeonS;24333822]Anime avatar
My opinion matters more than yours right now.[/QUOTE]
dragon ball z is hardly an anime
This movie was badass.
Arnold and Bruce's cameo was much better than I expected. It was hilarious.
It was alright, worse than I expected.
Plot was pretty shitty, actor choice was one of the only redeeming qualities.
[QUOTE=Rusty100;24333860]J-Dude is one of the few who makes any sense around ehre
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dragon ball z is hardly an anime[/QUOTE]
It is an anime though.
Saw this movie yesterday, it was alright. Not as good as i expected though.
[QUOTE=J-Dude;24332991]Nice observation there. Yeah, people have opinions, awesome. Here's ANOTHER astute observation:
There are two kinds of opinions...there's the opinion that's right...and the opinion that's wrong...[/QUOTE]
This is true in many cases. I can't just say Obama is a Muslim IN MY OPINION and then disregard every argument against it. Having an "opinion" doesn't immunize you against criticism, so don't act like you can say anything if you add "in my opinion" in your sentence (this isn't directed at anyone in particular).
And to whoever said that every director should put profit as their first priority when making a film, well that's probably not true when you consider that those people chose to be directors and probably like their job. I'm pretty sure that if I don't know, Disney wanted more money they wouldn't have made The Princess and the Frog. And I highly doubt that Inception was conceived with profit in mind.
my head is full of fuck
i saw the movie and was mildly disappointed.
the action was ok, the story was cheap and bad, and Arnold and Bruce had like a minute on screen (they was almost the only ones i was really hoping to so some action with)
I man'gasmed.
suddenly terry crews with an aa-12
Looks like the 300 in terms of sheer balls the size of mars out action
Jason Statham is extremely badass.
I watched it, and while the action was awesome and all, it was an average movie to me, wouldn't be worth a second watch.
Ah this film was a laugh, action pretty much every second, not a boring moment to spare, although serious critics will not like it.
It was ok id say it was on par with the marine 2.
[QUOTE=Kukuzi;24408997]It was alright, worse than I expected.
Plot was pretty shitty, actor choice was one of the only redeeming qualities.[/QUOTE]
You have to be in the 80's action film state of mind to enjoy it fully.
Jesus christ. how many knives were thrown in this movie? Its like twilights taking off shirt thing but here they throw knives everywhere.
Most fucking badass film i have seen in a long long time.
It was sad that Willis only had one Appearance, but this movie was sex.
As unrealistic and gory as it was, it was just a really fucking good movie
Just saw this yesterday, it was disappointing, and only 90 minutes long.
Oh god, did I enjoy this film. I missed Sylvestser Stallone since I saw a few of his earlier films and his newer film Rocky 6. (Which I refuse to call Rocky Balboa).
What an excellent comeback for him this was.
Someone who did not make such a good comeback, however was Arnold Schwarzenegger. What the hell was that? He appeared for no longer than 2 minutes, laughed a little, then left. Why the hell was he there!?!
But;
The guy who played Ivan Drago from Rocky 5 was in it. This made me smile. I hate typecasting actors by attributing them only to specific roles, but I really couldn't help it. I have literally not seen him in anything else.
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