• Over 100,000 Request Disney CANCEL EA's Star Wars License
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[video=youtube;9mG_ljHd248]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mG_ljHd248[/video] Hope this petition works...but somehow i doubt it. People love Star Wars way too much. EA needs to be stopped for their greedy business practices. Anyone who buys the game is letting EA know that their garbage will be welcomed. Don't encourage them. Reward the good folks at CDPR for making games like the Witcher 3, which respects their costumers and treat them right. Or indies.
if they really wanted to send disney a message they'll avoid watching the new film
[QUOTE=krakadict;52949302]if they really wanted to send disney a message they'll avoid watching the new film[/QUOTE] I like the new films. I don't like the new games. Therefore, I'm watching the films and not buying the games.
[QUOTE=AtomicSans;52949303]I like the new films. I don't like the new games. Therefore, I'm watching the films and not buying the games.[/QUOTE] then nothing will change
[QUOTE=krakadict;52949314]then nothing will change[/QUOTE] They know where their money is coming from. If they get film money, they will make more films. If they get game money, they will make more games. So by giving them film money but no game money, I am exerting my tiny amount of consumer pressure on them to make more films and stop making games.
[QUOTE=krakadict;52949314]then nothing will change[/QUOTE] I really don't agree that not watching the last jedi is the best way to protest EA. The movies attract a massively wide audience that in large part don't play battlefront and/or don't care. Even if the entire player base of the first battlefront game skipped the movie it would barely dent anything based on the force awaken's box office. TFA made 2 billion dollars, and 14 million * $10 ticket * 60% cut = 84 million. That's a lot of money to lose, but that's assuming all 14 million original players decided to say fuck off to the last jedi and even then it would be hard to determine exactly how much of that ~4% came from lost sales due to shitty game development practices as opposed to market fluctuations, reviews, slightly different release time, etc. For reference, iron man two made ~2% less than iron man, but iron man 3 made ~22% more than iron man and there was no particular controversy I can remember around any of the 3 movies. The only way you will ever have a meaningful impact on Disney's film revenue through this that they would notice it was related would be if you not only got the majority of all people who were interested in battlefront but also a massive group of people who don't know of or don't care involved, and I just don't think that's a practical way to approach this. Associating Disney's name with gambling was a good way to get their attention to players outrage, but the best way to get them to kill the license IMO is to convince people to just not buy the games where actual meaningful sales figures can be changed
[QUOTE=krakadict;52949302]if they really wanted to send disney a message they'll avoid watching the new film[/QUOTE] ... the films have fuck-all to do with the games aside from sharing a title, what on Earth would Disney derive from lowered ticket-sales other than assuming people don't like the [I]movies[/I]?
I think if people want this it should go back to the old days of licensing out specific games rather than giving the property to one publisher. I've heard a bunch of developers and publishers named and I don't think a single one I've heard so far would be a perfect fit for the entire Star Wars brand.
[QUOTE=krakadict;52949302]if they really wanted to send disney a message they'll avoid watching the new film[/QUOTE] EA's game license and the movies are two completely separate entities.
I'm interested in Respawn's upcoming Star Wars game but other than that I can't see EA doing fucking anything worthwhile with the license.
[QUOTE=krakadict;52949302]if they really wanted to send disney a message they'll avoid watching the new film[/QUOTE] If you want to boycott Last Jedi, by all means. It would be easier to justify though using the reason that [url=https://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1584700]Disney is asking for more from ticket sales from theaters and making theaters play the film on their largest screens for longer[/url]
I think DICE is honestly the perfect dev for a good modern Battlefront title, they just need more dev time and proper direction. Less needless casualization, less scumy monetization, less rushing the game out just so you can release it next to the movie. I'd be okay with EA getting their license revoked as long as they didn't throw it at Activision or something right after, but I like the idea of a good star wars game from Respawn or DICE. That's all.
[QUOTE=Simplemac3;52949746]I think DICE is honestly the perfect dev for a good modern Battlefront title, they just need more dev time and proper direction. Less needless casualization, less scumy monetization, less rushing the game out just so you can release it next to the movie. I'd be okay with EA getting their license revoked as long as they didn't throw it at Activision or something right after, but I like the idea of a good star wars game from Respawn or DICE. That's all.[/QUOTE] DICE fucking sucks.
[QUOTE=AtomicSans;52950178]DICE fucking sucks.[/QUOTE] Battlefield 4 and Battlefield 1 are honestly great fun and they have a history with stuff like 2142, Bad Company 2, and Mirror's Edge I think it'd be pretty difficult to say they're an objectively bad developer even with stuff like Battlefront and Battlefront 2 [sp]and hot take, I think those games are pretty fun as someone who loved the hell out of Battlefront 2 2006. Battlefront 1 has no content, no teamplay, and the depth of a kiddie pool alongside some other problems, but I enjoyed the base gameplay of the beta. Battlefront 2 has similar problems with depth and teamplay but a bunch of the other problems were actually fixed, it's the absurd monetization that was really the death knell of that game.[/sp] I just wish they'd branch out and experiment a little more, my favorite game of theirs is probably the original Mirror's Edge and it's so different from the rest of their catalog
I'd like it if other devs got the license. I appreciate that Disney is attempting to keep a much tighter grip on Star Wars to keep it expanding (GET IT) in all directions and becoming insane, but that doesn't mean only one group should get to try it. I mean shit, can you imagine a KotOR 3 developed by CD Projekt Red? Can you imagine how fucking GOOD that could be?
Just give me 1313 back
[QUOTE=Mister Sandman;52950264]I'd like it if other devs got the license. I appreciate that Disney is attempting to keep a much tighter grip on Star Wars to keep it expanding (GET IT) in all directions and becoming insane, but that doesn't mean only one group should get to try it. I mean shit, can you imagine a KotOR 3 developed by CD Projekt Red? Can you imagine how fucking GOOD that could be?[/QUOTE] Would have to be a total reboot or something else only related in spirit. Bioware still holds the old republic and the first two KOTOR's aren't canon
do you really think Disney didnt know EA´s plans to profit on battlefront 2? id be astonish if they didn't themselves promote that behavior
the whole point of them shutting down their video game companies and licensing instead was so they wouldn't have to handle this shit EA does this, gets a phone call threatening to pull their license almost immediately its not like EA is their bitch, they don't own them it's a property license [editline]6th December 2017[/editline] this is the same disney that fixed up OG BFII just before theirs came out
[QUOTE=krakadict;52949314]then nothing will change[/QUOTE] Because it's Lucasfilm/Disney,s fault EA makes greedy decisions in regard to their IPs, right?
[QUOTE=VenomousBeetle;52950419]Would have to be a total reboot or something else only related in spirit. Bioware still holds the old republic and the first two KOTOR's aren't canon[/QUOTE] I don't think the existence of TOR means that no more KotOR games are possible, considering it's set hundreds of years after both games, and I'm not aware of any legal thing that says Bioware is the only one that gets to make KotOR games. Plus, at the very least, KotOR is partially canon. Many elements from it returned in newer Star Wars media and I really don't think anyone would mind nor would it break anything if it was outright confirmed canon. Considering it takes place [I]thousands[/I] of years before the mainline Star Wars series it kind of seems like the safest space for expanded universe material. I can totally see the creative appeal in that. Wouldn't have to be KotOR, but I feel like that setting would work best. Damn near makes me salivate to think about it, if CD Projekt Red got licensed to make a SW RPG I think they could make one of the best RPGs of all time, let alone one of the best Star Wars games.
[QUOTE=DEMONSKUL;52950625]Because it's Lucasfilm/Disney,s fault EA makes greedy decisions in regard to their IPs, right?[/QUOTE] disney is very protective of their IPs, so yeah it wouldn't surprise me if everything goes through them first.[URL="https://www.gamereactor.eu/news/612783/Lucasfilm+We+had+weekly+meetings+with+EA+over+SWBFII/"] EA DICE and disney(lucasfilm) had a weekly meeting schedule[/URL] so them not knowing about it is BS
[QUOTE=Simplemac3;52950199]Battlefield 4 and Battlefield 1 are honestly great fun and they have a history with stuff like 2142, Bad Company 2, and Mirror's Edge I think it'd be pretty difficult to say they're an objectively bad developer even with stuff like Battlefront and Battlefront 2 [sp]and hot take, I think those games are pretty fun as someone who loved the hell out of Battlefront 2 2006. Battlefront 1 has no content, no teamplay, and the depth of a kiddie pool alongside some other problems, but I enjoyed the base gameplay of the beta. Battlefront 2 has similar problems with depth and teamplay but a bunch of the other problems were actually fixed, it's the absurd monetization that was really the death knell of that game.[/sp] I just wish they'd branch out and experiment a little more, my favorite game of theirs is probably the original Mirror's Edge and it's so different from the rest of their catalog[/QUOTE] DICE isn't really the problem, it's EA's executive meddling in the development process which is causing problems. They were making money just fine in the BF2/2142/BC2 days so there was no real need to pull this crap.
[QUOTE=Mister Sandman;52950718]I don't think the existence of TOR means that no more KotOR games are possible, considering it's set hundreds of years after both games, and I'm not aware of any legal thing that says Bioware is the only one that gets to make KotOR games. Plus, at the very least, KotOR is partially canon. Many elements from it returned in newer Star Wars media and I really don't think anyone would mind nor would it break anything if it was outright confirmed canon. Considering it takes place [I]thousands[/I] of years before the mainline Star Wars series it kind of seems like the safest space for expanded universe material. I can totally see the creative appeal in that. Wouldn't have to be KotOR, but I feel like that setting would work best. Damn near makes me salivate to think about it, if CD Projekt Red got licensed to make a SW RPG I think they could make one of the best RPGs of all time, let alone one of the best Star Wars games.[/QUOTE] You don't understand Kotor and Tor are the same story, that's why I refer to both as tor, and the continuation of that story is in biowares hands Ontop of this, kotor isn't canon anymore so Disney continuing that story is pretty much a 0% chance. It'd be a spiritual successor for sure. I'd want kotor to be canon yeah but it unfortunately is not. The few things that are cherry picked from it can be chocked up to era related, which would likely be included in whatever kotor reboot they'd make. I'm just saying a literal "kotor 3" may be impossible (and technically SWTOR and KOTFE/KOTET already are this) and that if such a game were to exist it'd likely be a new story with the only link to other kotor being gameplay and possibly era setting and similarities in narrative
instead of cancelling EA's Star Wars license how about just cancelling EA
Shit like this is what leads to corporations to do nothing, never put a number and instead force Disney to make their own projections and assume worst case. By making it 100,000 they'll actually have a number and will probably shrug.
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