Depression, anxiety, suicidalism and similar disorders, issues and troubles V4 - Discussion, help an - General

It seems like the only way to make money at all is stress yourself out and be tired all the time. How do people cope with being stressed for 14 hours a day and get away with missing slight details in procedures? It's a wonder people get promoted at all. Is stress like doing weights at the gym? Do you just build up more and more per week so that you can handle it more and more? In that case I think I'd have to take sleeping drugs to manage, that must be what those investment bankers do and they seem ok. Are there any long term effects of sleeping pills?

One of my best friends broke down today. I feel so bad that I couldn't help her.

Anxious as HELL because I went to the dentist today and found out I need to get all four of my impacted wisdom teeth removed and I need three cavities filled. Not scared? But I'm not entirely looking forward to either procedure because I have dental anxiety to begin with. At least I'm kind of glad I actually went today to figure out what was going on.

[QUOTE=Blanketspace;49141260]If you get too high on nihilism you never come down.[/QUOTE] You can come back from it. I've been there and still have traits of it to a large degree. Though if done right it can be very beneficial. [editline]19th November 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=RoboChimp;49148657]It seems like the only way to make money at all is stress yourself out and be tired all the time. How do people cope with being stressed for 14 hours a day and get away with missing slight details in procedures? It's a wonder people get promoted at all. Is stress like doing weights at the gym? Do you just build up more and more per week so that you can handle it more and more? In that case I think I'd have to take sleeping drugs to manage, that must be what those investment bankers do and they seem ok. Are there any long term effects of sleeping pills?[/QUOTE] Find a job you like to do, you'll make money and not be stressed out. It doesn't work like a gym at all, you have to let it out or it will consume you. Exercise is a great way to deal with it though.

does anyone else get violent thoughts? i don't want to hurt anybody, but i get intrusive violent thoughts really bad it almost feels impulsive. i do suffer from OCD and anxiety

[QUOTE=pdp;49149650]does anyone else get violent thoughts? i don't want to hurt anybody, but i get intrusive violent thoughts really bad it almost feels impulsive. i do suffer from OCD and anxiety[/QUOTE] yeah, pretty common with disorders of anxiety. did you know there are specific subsets of intrusive thoughts? it's not unusual to have recurring, unwanted visualizations of only one type.

[QUOTE=_jesterk;49149940]yeah, pretty common with disorders of anxiety. did you know there are specific subsets of intrusive thoughts? it's not unusual to have recurring, unwanted visualizations of only one type.[/QUOTE] yeah, i'm pretty sure i have some form of pure-o. it really does manifest itself in every way though. sex ocd, harm ocd, shit, if it exists, i have an intrusive thought involving it and destruction

[QUOTE=DELL;49149485]You can come back from it. I've been there and still have traits of it to a large degree. Though if done right it can be very beneficial. [editline]19th November 2015[/editline] Find a job you like to do, you'll make money and not be stressed out. It doesn't work like a gym at all, you have to let it out or it will consume you. Exercise is a great way to deal with it though.[/QUOTE]I had a few job trials for jobs I like doing, but I still get stressed out and basically can't do anything where I know people will rely on me. Is there a pill that can remove stress?

[QUOTE=RoboChimp;49148657]It seems like the only way to make money at all is stress yourself out and be tired all the time. How do people cope with being stressed for 14 hours a day and get away with missing slight details in procedures? It's a wonder people get promoted at all. Is stress like doing weights at the gym? Do you just build up more and more per week so that you can handle it more and more? In that case I think I'd have to take sleeping drugs to manage, that must be what those investment bankers do and they seem ok. Are there any long term effects of sleeping pills?[/QUOTE] I deal with the stress by taking adaptogens like [URL="http://examine.com/supplements/Bacopa+monnieri/"]bacopa monnieri[/URL] (which is also a antidepressant). Honestly without that I'd probably have broken down at work weeks ago. For sleeping pills I take 1mg melatonin in a sustained release tablet. It's not really a sleeping pill, but its an important hormone for sleep regulation and can get you off to sleep easier and stay asleep longer. Probably safer in the long term too. Some people cope with stress better than others. I'm terrible with stress and the slightest bit of it makes me overanalyse my smallest mistakes and makes them seem huge and it spirals downwards from there. The bacopa helps massively, but not everyone gets the same results. YMMV.

[QUOTE=Turnips5;49148290]:wideeye: stop associating with these morons, they clearly don't know how to act[/QUOTE] I wish I was able to freely pick, but I don't have a lot of people to really pick from. there's 3 people in total that ever ask me if I want to spend a day with them or that I feel comfortable (sort of) asking the same, this girl is one of them. later the same day, maybe an hour or two later, she sent me a heart, said "love you though" and asked if I was feeling alright. clearly she noticed that I was upset somehow or that she felt she did something that may have hurt me, but I don't see what that could be unless it was the entire train ordeal. maybe she knows me well enough to know I'd react to that, I don't know. I told her I was feeling upset without going into any details, that she had done nothing wrong and that I was just being bombarded with untrue, negative thoughts. the day before I had also reacted to something she had said which we figured out later, so I told her it was different to that day since she hadn't said anything that I had reacted to. she replied with "remember what I told you :)" "I'd never say or do anything to purposefully hurt you!! <3" I followed up with that I had it in the back of my head still, but that it was hard to dodge the negative thoughts. that what she just said had helped, and that some sleep would most likely clear stuff up. we spoke some more and she came with more comforting words which helped a lot. in the end, I feel like they're a good bunch, at least her, to hang out with. she might do stuff, but in the end I don't think she intends it to be anything negative. [QUOTE=Fort83;49150230]I think you might be overthinking this. Unless you've physically asked them and they told you so, you don't know if they noticed that you disappeared or not. And if they did notice it, I doubt it's because they think less of you. If I was one of your friends I would've just figured you went home for the night and I wouldnt have paid any mind to it. Not because I'd think you're weird, but because it was only going to be you and another guy getting on the train. I highly doubt they are thinking badly about you because of this either, if anything they will just tease you a little bit in a friendly manner.[/QUOTE] yeah, I agree with you. I find it difficult to differentiate between overreaction and a normal reaction / justified reaction, so that's something I'll have to work with. the fact that she contacted me afterwards and told me all she told me, I doubt that she suddenly started hating me. I'm sure these overreactions will go away the more I expose myself to the same situations and learn that it's okay that these things happen from time to time. another thing which brightened my mood this morning was that another friend of mine sent me a message and asked if I wanted to hang with her today. she has been really persistent this last week as well, wanted to hang on Monday, Tuesday (sadly I slept), Wednesday, and today! I don't mind at all, I enjoy being with her and appreciate someone wanting to spend time with me so often. I found her chat messages a little cute even though I don't think she wants anything, nor do I "want to meet me today in <nearby town>? :)" about 1 hour and 30 mins later "if you can and want" another 1 hour and 30 mins later "like, just us two :P" "don't take it wrong but yeah" I find it a little heartwarming, but sadly she had already found someone else to hang out with by the time I woke up. no big deal, told her we'd just catch up another day. clearly I must be doing something right since people actually contact me despite me never contacting them (which I really have to work with, I don't think they'll be contacting me forever when I never get the ball rolling).

i just noticed that sometimes i'll mimic putting a gun to my head with my fingers unconsciously. may be over thinking things, but it's slightly worrying to me.

[QUOTE=Mysterious;49152027]i just noticed that sometimes i'll mimic putting a gun to my head with my fingers unconsciously. may be over thinking things, but it's slightly worrying to me.[/QUOTE] i do the same thing. i don't think it's anything to worry about.

It saddens me when I see people being super happy, because I know I'll never feel as happy as they do.

It's pretty draining when it comes to telling everyone to stay strong, when you can't stay strong yourself.

i hate my body so much

[QUOTE=FreyasFighter;49153375]It's pretty draining when it comes to telling everyone to stay strong, when you can't stay strong yourself.[/QUOTE] I know the feeling. I usually do it anyway because I assume whatever their going through is much worse than what I'm going through. I often think I'm making a big deal out of nothing.

[img]https://40.media.tumblr.com/adf3a77bfe5c4988aa6174d98ba94d8e/tumblr_ny4vcov89R1qz8z2ro1_1280.png[/img] [editline]20th November 2015[/editline] i'm jon arbuckle

I don't feel like myself anymore. I stay inside every day playing Warframe and it..seems like an escape from everything, and like..every day I feel worse about myself, I stop myself from sleeping so I don't have to wake up wishing I hadn't. I lost my job a while ago as well as my now ex girlfriend. I have no real life friends anymore tbh, i'm sort of popular on Facebook but that's pointless non real popularity. I'm not attractive, i'm not charismatic, i'm nothing positive at all. Lately things have been getting gradually worse, I find myself crying more often at night, trying to suppress crying throughout the day. I have dreams of suicide and I wake up upset because it didn't happen. I don't know what's happening to my head or my emotions. All I do is try to help people with anything. I was called 'that guy who is always upset constantly' and I can apparently relate to 99% of everyones fucking problems yet when I'm sad nobody pops up to see if I'm okay. I don't get someone phoning me to see if I'm okay. Why do I do that for others?

i'm drinking my self to deathhhhhhhhh

[QUOTE=RoboChimp;49148657]It seems like the only way to make money at all is stress yourself out and be tired all the time. How do people cope with being stressed for 14 hours a day and get away with missing slight details in procedures? It's a wonder people get promoted at all. Is stress like doing weights at the gym? Do you just build up more and more per week so that you can handle it more and more? In that case I think I'd have to take sleeping drugs to manage, that must be what those investment bankers do and they seem ok. Are there any long term effects of sleeping pills?[/QUOTE] A muscle needs to be trained, taken care of and given recovery time before it can lift impressive amounts of weight. Everybody has a limit to their stress. People in positions like investment bankers usually have quite a bit of experience and knowledge built up before being put in that position, and they continue to adapt strategies to dealing with stressful situations over time. Some people can be given a 100 lb. weight the first time they hit a gym, not many will be able to carry it. Everybody starts somewhere. Need to take care of yourself as well. If you booze every night to alleviate your problems, you aren't really getting stronger. Don't forget recovery... lawyers are recommended to take a vacation every two weeks. Sorry for the corny metaphors, lol If you start taking sleeping pills, side effects vary depending on the medication but most noticeable long term one will be your inability to sleep without them.

hey guys, It's a mixture of drinking and other things but at hte minute i feel really energetic, It's a feeling I've had before towards the start of panic/anxiety attacks and I can see them coming, it's usually an onset of extreme fucking giddyness and insane, unexplained hyperactivity followed by a crushing insane panic induced stress. I've managed to catch it the last few times because i notice it when it happens, the first two times I didn't and they were over a year ago but for some reason I'm not comfortable with this one. I'm going to try the breathe in for 4 seconds breathe out for 4 - it calms me down at work when my mind wanders but if anyone has some advice that'd be pretty prime y'know..............

I personally don't get how people can say that it'll get better etc, when I'm pretty sure it won't for me. I see no light at the end of the tunnel, no, the tunnel's cold and dark and damp :(

[QUOTE=kijji;49157084]I personally don't get how people can say that it'll get better etc, when I'm pretty sure it won't for me. I see no light at the end of the tunnel, no, the tunnel's cold and dark and damp :([/QUOTE] I never saw a light either, I had to begin digging for the surface eventually! my tunnel was caved in, yours might be too

[QUOTE=kijji;49157084]I personally don't get how people can say that it'll get better etc, when I'm pretty sure it won't for me. I see no light at the end of the tunnel, no, the tunnel's cold and dark and damp :([/QUOTE] It all depends on what situation you're in. Certain ones [I]do[/I] get better. Some by chance, others by a change of scenery or just the thing going away, hell even fighting back sometimes makes it better. Sometimes it doesn't. What's your situation?

Wow lol. I went to some group and later got added on whatsapp. Some guy asks me how long have i been living in this town(Since i was born is the answer). Can't believe how much of a phantom i am.

[QUOTE=ZombieDawgs;49158654]It all depends on what situation you're in. Certain ones [I]do[/I] get better. Some by chance, others by a change of scenery or just the thing going away, hell even fighting back sometimes makes it better. Sometimes it doesn't. What's your situation?[/QUOTE] Dropped out of college, want to move to Sweden in the near future, stuck in a dead-end retail job I could go on but those are the main points

After 3 years of significant improvement, I still feel like opting out.

I keep fucking up and my life isn't really going anywhere. I can't bring myself to come out to my parents and the government isn't in a position now to help me get a place to myself either yet, so I guess I just have to sit and bide my time as usual.

oops i posted this in the wrong thread but ill just copy paste it here if thats okay, its relevant to both threads i suppose but especially this one Today I went to a pub with my mom, her boyfriend and his 9 year old kid. I was excited and really nervous cause even though it wasn't said it was quite obvious that me and the kid were supposed to try to get along and his dad and my mom were supposed to get along, and I am really shy and asocial. So I started asking him about general stuff like "so you're moving to this town... what school you gonna go to?" not a lot of luck there, but then I asked him if he played any video games and he mentioned fifa - great I thought, I'm not much into soccer myself but I know fifa atleast and I've played it myself so I started asking him about that. Then I asked him if he played any other games and he mentioned Minecraft and Robocraft - YES!! I thought, everyone knows minecraft but Robocraft is pretty obscure so lucky I knew about that - so from there we talked lots about both games because I knew what questions to ask and shit to make him feel like I knew what he was talking about. Here's an important thing to know about kids - correct me if I'm wrong but I'm pretty sure this is true about pretty much anyone, kid or adult -, they don't want to hear you talk about shit, they want to talk about their shit to you, knowing that you care and know what they're talking about. So while he was very shy at first, he began opening up and talking about things. At the end of the night, when we were all walking home, my mom and her BF were walking together talking and being romantic while me and the kid were talking about all kinds of stuff, well he was talking to me about all kinds of stuff, it was very obvious because when he didnt have anything to talk about he started reading random signs and I did my best to make that into a fun thing, trying to make him laugh and stuff. That made me feel like a genuinely good human being, it so rarely happens, but it just made me feel like I was helping someone feel safe and happy and that's the reason I live, to do that to people. He has no friends here as he just moved here and is starting at a new school, so I kinda want to be the bigger brother he never had. He's such a polite, shy and nice kid I like him a lot. I also like his dad, but it does feel very weird considering my actual dad died earlier this year, neither my younger nor older brother really like the idea of my mom dating a new guy, and I guess I kinda feel the same but not as strongly because I'm 99% convinced that there is no life after death and no objective morality so it's not like dad is watching, and even if he is I knew he'd just want us living people to be happy and well if a guy makes mom happy then that's all that matters. I am so emotional right now, mostly in good ways but also because even though like I said dad isnt around, it still feels somehow.... weirdly wrong that mom is seeing someone else, even if he is super great.

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