I'm a vegetarian and have been for 13 years, It's not because of how animals are treated (although that is beyond fucked up sometimes) it's just because I like the veggie alternatives more. It's not a rejection of eating living things, because all the alternative foods I eat are made from fungus and such, brands like Quorn. They make good stuff. But yeah, it's made from living things and I still om nom it.
I wouldn't eat vat grown meat, though.
and please for the love of god dont fucking mention PETA . Fucking morons, I hope they get eaten by cannibals.
I've actually eaten some veggie burgers before.
They were tasty
[QUOTE=SomeRandomGuy18;24365142]It's alive, therefore it's killing.[/QUOTE]
It's not alive! It's DNA being forced to replicate and grow cells in a water bath filled with nutrients.
A muscle cell isn't alive, it's a tiny molecular machine that takes in fuel and breaks the chemical bonds to release energy and uses that to contract.
That's it, nothing more, nothing less, if that is what you define as alive then crystals are alive as well as they grow in nutrient baths.
[QUOTE=Spawndex;24365382]I'm a vegetarian and have been for 13 years, It's not because of how animals are treated (although that is beyond fucked up sometimes) it's just because I like the veggie alternatives more. It's not a rejection of eating living things, because all the alternative foods I eat are made from fungus and such, brands like Quorn. They make good stuff. But yeah, it's made from living things and I still om nom it.
I wouldn't eat vat grown meat, though.
and please for the love of god dont fucking mention PETA . Fucking morons, I hope they get eaten by cannibals.[/QUOTE]
wow you like the vegetarian alternatives more?
[QUOTE=strayebyrd;24365541]wow you like the vegetarian alternatives more?[/QUOTE]
I genuinely do! The only bits I miss about not eating meat are the nasty, cheap, throw away bits that they put into food like non-expensive meatballs in cans and peperami and such, haha.
Next up: Meat in pill form
[QUOTE=strayebyrd;24365541]wow you like the vegetarian alternatives more?[/QUOTE]
They are pretty good to be honest.
[QUOTE=Wafflemaster;24365377]No it isn't.[/QUOTE]
How does it grow if it's not alive?
[QUOTE=SomeRandomGuy18;24365779]How does it grow if it's not alive?[/QUOTE]
Crystals grow, they aren't alive.
And this all depends on how you define alive really, if you are like your average person and define something being alive as something living, like a dog running around and thinking about shit then a growing muscle is not alive.
But if you define alive (not life) as any self replicating or growing organic material then I suppose the could be alive to you.
Either way it's incapable of thought so I see no problem with this, I just don't think it's gonna be the same.
[QUOTE=Ali Legend;24361539]I am a vegan and I would not eat the meat because I'm [B]hardcore[/B]. :regd08:
Edit: Who voted me dumb? I will kick your arses with a dull, dirty carrot you pieces of shit.
Edit 2: OK, now this is getting fucking ridiculous. Stop giving me fucking boxes. What are you all, 12? Just because I eat parsnip all day because I have some strange, unjustifiable prejudice against meat doesn't mean I deserve this ridicule in the form of ratings on a public forum - THIS IS RUINING MY LIFE.
Edit 3: Look you cunts, I told you to stop and you kept on going. [B]STOP FUCKING DOING IT[/B]. You might think it's funny but it's actually really fucking immature.
Edit 4: Oh go murder some pigs and eat their flesh you barbarous wankers.
Edit 5: Hey cocksuckers, I just went down town and guess what I bought? That's right, a notepad and a fucking machete. Whoever voted me dumb say so, and I will add your scummy name to the list. You think you can be all hard on the internet, stating your opinion anonymously? Well have fun with that you pussies. As soon as you grow some balls come talk to me and then we can find out who is a meek piece of crap (protip: it's you).
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Gold. Gold in every sentence.
[QUOTE=bravehat;24365531]It's not alive! It's DNA being forced to replicate and grow cells in a water bath filled with nutrients.
A muscle cell isn't alive, it's a tiny molecular machine that takes in fuel and breaks the chemical bonds to release energy and uses that to contract.
That's it, nothing more, nothing less, if that is what you define as alive then crystals are alive as well as they grow in nutrient baths.[/QUOTE]
It's alive in the same way a plant is alive.
[QUOTE=Kingy_who;24366115]It's alive in the same way a plant is alive.[/QUOTE]
No it's not.
Last time I checked crystals don't reproduce and pass on genetic material.
[QUOTE=SomeRandomGuy18;24365142]It's alive, therefore it's killing.[/QUOTE]
By your logic, you are a murderer because you cut your nails and hair.
My sister wanted to be a vegetarian. It lasted about a week and she realized she was stupid after pretty much everyone in the family made fun of her.
Would you guys eat a dolphin even though its one of the most intelligent species on the planet besides are own.
[QUOTE=Ali Legend;24361539]Edit 5: Hey cocksuckers, I just went down town and guess what I bought? That's right, a notepad and a fucking machete. Whoever voted me dumb say so, and I will add your scummy name to the list. You think you can be all hard on the internet, stating your opinion anonymously? Well have fun with that you pussies. As soon as you grow some balls come talk to me and then we can find out who is a meek piece of crap (protip: it's you).
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I rated you dumb! Can't wait for my murder! :downs:
[QUOTE=nikola631;24366197]Would you guys eat a dolphin even though its one of the most intelligent species on the plant besides are own.[/QUOTE]
Nope, I wouldn't at least because it's a fairly intelligent creature, and endangered for the most part.
Besides they're too awesome to eat.
[QUOTE=nikola631;24366197]Would you guys eat a dolphin even though its one of the most intelligent species on the plant besides are own.[/QUOTE]
Probably not.
Now, if they provided tasty meat that has nutritional value, then maybe.
Also it's endangered so no.
On the other hand, it's very intelligent so once again, probably not.
[QUOTE=nikola631;24366197]Would you guys eat a dolphin even though its one of the most intelligent species on the plant besides are own.[/QUOTE]
I think a dolphin could spell and punctuate better than you.
If they can get it to taste raw and bloody without the associated diseases I'm motherfucking in. Morally, nutritionally and ecologically superior food. Mmm.
[QUOTE=bravehat;24366300]Nope, I wouldn't at least because it's a fairly intelligent creature, and endangered for the most part.
Besides they're too awesome to eat.[/QUOTE]
Not really, by choosing not to eat (by which I mean you), is solving nothing.
You're not making an impact and your not spreading the word right at all, arguing over an internet forum isn't going to make anyone else become a vegetarian.
Basically get off your high-horse.
Why is intelligence such an important factor in deciding whether to eat it or not
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[QUOTE=Mr.Dounut;24366395]You're not making an impact and your not spreading the word right at all, arguing over an internet forum isn't going to make anyone else become a vegetarian.[/QUOTE]
how do you know he's not making an impact by arguing on the internet when apparently you are because you're also arguing and surely you wouldn't argue unless it made an impact - arguing without a chance of it making a difference would mean you're a hypocrite
[QUOTE=ThePuska;24366444]
how do you know he's not making an impact by arguing on the internet when apparently you are because you're also arguing and surely you wouldn't argue unless it made an impact - arguing without a chance of it making a difference would mean you're a hypocrite[/QUOTE]
basically yes, but the difference is I'm not trying to make people eat meat.
Jesus fuck people.
People have all sorts of reasons for becoming vegetarians. Sure enough there are some retarded people who think they're on some crusade against people eating meat, but there are plenty who will respect your dietary choices as long as you return the favor.
You just tend to notice the retarded ones because they'll pipe up and make it an issue every time you eat meat.
[QUOTE=Mr.Dounut;24366556]basically yes, but the difference is I'm not trying to make people eat meat.[/QUOTE]
That's an irrelevant difference. By telling someone to get off their high horse and stop arguing on the Internet because it's not making a difference you're asking them to reconsider their values so that they would fit yours better. That's comparable to trying to affect their eating habits.
[QUOTE=I Broke The Sun!;24366127]No it's not.
Last time I checked crystals don't reproduce and pass on genetic material.[/QUOTE]
No I meant the meat in a vat.
[QUOTE=Mr.Dounut;24366556]basically yes, but the difference is I'm not trying to make people eat meat.[/QUOTE]
I don't recall seeing anyone in this thread trying to make people not eat meat.
[QUOTE=Spawndex;24365628]I genuinely do! The only bits I miss about not eating meat are the nasty, cheap, throw away bits that they put into food like non-expensive meatballs in cans and peperami and such, haha.[/QUOTE]
Wow that's actually really fascinating, the veggies I know say the only thing they hate about vegitarianism is the soy and quorn alternatives. Well to each their own I guess
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[QUOTE=TheMar;24366645]Jesus fuck people.
People have all sorts of reasons for becoming vegetarians. Sure enough there are some retarded people who think they're on some crusade against people eating meat, but there are plenty who will respect your dietary choices as long as you return the favor.
You just tend to notice the retarded ones because they'll pipe up and make it an issue every time you eat meat.[/QUOTE]
It's like this in most walks of life. Like the stereotype of stupid Americans only comes from the fact that the stupid ones are the loudest and most raucous
[QUOTE=The golden;24367304]Avoiding meat for dietary concerns is logical and I respect that. Avoiding meat because of things like "it's wrong" and "animals have feelings" is not logical. People that do this have nothing to back up their actions besides whining. If these people actually took 5 seconds to educate themselves perhaps they would stop acting so childish. If they really feel strongly against the meat industry, maybe they should get off their ass and do something rather than sit and complain.[/QUOTE]
I have a guy I know who doesn't eat meat because of "ethics"
He kills rabbits with his air rifle and encourages his cat to kill mice.
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