Salvia 100x, just "meh" experience...? - General

Do it!

[QUOTE=Anubis678;18053162]You are so goddamn misinformed it's not even funny. 100% of that post is bullshit. I'm not even going to waste my time breaking it apart.[/QUOTE] I "won"

Fuck it. Here goes: [QUOTE=Oecleus;18053089]I didn't think it would be hard to understand that weight does play a factor and that the strength of the dose to get you high would need to be raised.[/QUOTE] This is only true for some drugs. Drugs that this is [b]NOT[/b] true for: - Marijuana - Psilocybin Mushrooms - LSD - Salvinorin A - DMT etc etc Oh, look at that... It seems that psychedelics aren't weight dependent! [QUOTE=Oecleus;18053089]I can understand however if you want to try to argue about everything because of this "vendetta" you think I have for you and vice versa.[/QUOTE] I argue with you because [b]you're wrong[/b] and you are consistently spewing misinformed bullshit all over these forums. [QUOTE=Oecleus;18053089]Age isn't necessarily a factor, but obviously a child is going to take less to get high than a full sized adult. Then again, this trend probably reverses when you reach a very old age where every little thing that goes into your body has an exaggerated effect on you.[/QUOTE] I guarantee that this is incorrect. Regardless, we're talking about a difference of, at most, 3-5 years. [QUOTE=Oecleus;18053089]Mental susceptibility is certainly a factor in more ways than one. If you go into doing the drug thinking it's going to do nothing it's going to have a lessened affect than someone who thinks they are going to get crazy wasted off it (You). I'm surprised you do not know the power of placebo. The other factor I speak of is tolerance to drugs in general. Tolerance in one psychoactive often reflects tolerance in other drugs.[/QUOTE] The placebo effect isn't that powerful, dipshit. Also, cross-tolerance among psychedelics has really only been noted with LSD and Psilocybin Mushrooms. And, once again, Salvia doesn't build a tolerance like most. Clearly what happened here is the dumbass OP smoked some 5x, thinking it was 100x, and decided to bitch about it. [editline]01:20AM[/editline] Suck on that :smug:

[QUOTE=Anubis678;18053266] The placebo effect isn't that powerful, dipshit. [/QUOTE] You have obviously never seen The 51st State, my friend! But yeah, I'm pretty sure Anubis is right. Plz! I not want beef!

[QUOTE=Anubis678;18053266]Oh, look at that... It seems that psychedelics aren't weight dependent![/QUOTE] You are correct, now that I think about it, it doesn't make sense that drugs affecting the brain should be effected by body mass as all that matters is rate of absorbtion. [QUOTE=Anubis678;18053266] I guarantee that this is incorrect. Regardless, we're talking about a difference of, at most, 3-5 years.[/QUOTE] You're angry at me because I am assuming things without backing up what I am saying, yet you just say I'm wrong and move on to the next quote. Both physical and mental maturity level certainly should affect tolerance to any type of drug. [QUOTE=Anubis678;18053266]The placebo effect isn't that powerful, dipshit.[/QUOTE] It is, you wouldn't believe the effects on your body when you believe something/someone is going to something to you. [QUOTE=Anubis678;18053266]Also, cross-tolerance among psychedelics has really only been noted with LSD and Psilocybin Mushrooms. And, once again, Salvia doesn't build a tolerance like most.[/QUOTE] I'll have to momentarily agree with you as I can't find anything on tolerance between salvia and any other drug. [QUOTE=Anubis678;18053266]Suck on that :smug:[/QUOTE] I don't know what you think we have, but I assure you it's nothing.

Actually I'm certain that weight doesn't affect your tolereance to marijuana. I have friends that are skinny bastards yet can smoke me under the table.

[QUOTE=DrMortician;18051190]You must have exceptionally low tolerance or exaggerate everything to an extreme degree. Like most people who claim this fucks them up.[/quote] Even though your story seems unlikely and something was telling me that you were bullshitting, I was giving you the benefit of the doubt and actually taking your story seriously up until you said this. If you've ever been on salvia (or any other psychedelic, for that matter) proper, you would have [I]never[/I] said that. You're just trying to seem like a hardass just like all of the other people who only drink and/or smoke weed. When your brain is under the influence of these chemicals, there is no exaggerating. Strength of the mind has absolutely zero to do with how well you keep your shit together. You are at the drug's will and nothing can stop it. [QUOTE=DrMortician;18051190]If you're weak minded enough to get fucked up off allergy medication, I'd suppose you'll go bonkers on salvia.[/QUOTE] Seriously, just stop. You've made it abundantly clear that you don't know what you're talking about.

[QUOTE=Oecleus;18053794]You're angry at me because I am assuming things without backing up what I am saying, yet you just say I'm wrong and move on to the next quote. Both physical and mental maturity level certainly should affect tolerance to any type of drug.[/QUOTE] I wouldn't say that I'm angry at you... I just think that you're a moron. And yeah, drugs will probably affect developing minds in a slightly different way than they would a fully-developed mind, but that is irrelevant here. [QUOTE=Oecleus;18053794]It is, you wouldn't believe the effects on your body when you believe something/someone is going to something to you.[/QUOTE] Yes, the placebo effect can be powerful, but it won't induce psychedelic experiences. I don't know how many times I've taken a relatively large amount of Psilocybin mushrooms, expecting to have an intense psychedelic experience, only for them to turn out to be mostly bunk. Following your logic, regardless of the potency of the mushrooms, I should have still felt the effects. But it doesn't work like that.

[QUOTE=Oecleus;18012671]Notice how much cursing there is. All it shows is that you can't make proper sentence with decent vocabulary.[/QUOTE] Who gives a [b]shit[/b] about how much cursing there is. And who are you to go judging us because we swear? If you hate swearing you might as well just leave facepunch because this whole forum is full of it.

There is no such thing as 100x salvia, unless it was a white powder because extracting it that many times that's what you'd get, The exraction goes up to either 60x or 80x I can't remember, but 100x is a scam.

[QUOTE=Anubis678;18057502]I wouldn't say that I'm angry at you... I just think that you're a moron. And yeah, drugs will probably affect developing minds in a slightly different way than they would a fully-developed mind, but that is irrelevant here.[/QUOTE] It isn't irrelevant because still developing minds are going to be more susceptible than matured minds. [QUOTE=Anubis678;18057502]Yes, the placebo effect can be powerful, but it won't induce psychedelic experiences. I don't know how many times I've taken a relatively large amount of Psilocybin mushrooms, expecting to have an intense psychedelic experience, only for them to turn out to be mostly bunk. Following your logic, regardless of the potency of the mushrooms, I should have still felt the effects. But it doesn't work like that.[/QUOTE] It won't cause a trip all by itself, but it will certainly downplay or over exaggerate your trip. You are really underestimating placebo. [QUOTE=Lolerskins;18057748]Who gives a [b]shit[/b] about how much cursing there is. And who are you to go judging us because we swear? If you hate swearing you might as well just leave facepunch because this whole forum is full of it.[/QUOTE] I don't care that DD curses, I only care that DD excessively curses like a bunch of retards. The cursing is there because of a lack of vocabulary and a lack of a way to articulate your thoughts.

Sigh, just stop replying.

I think I know exactly what happened here. OP smoked 5x (maybe 10), didn't get any effects in the first 15 seconds and decided that he must've been ripped off. At this point his thought pattern would've lowered the effect of the salvia a little bit making him think that it did nothing at all. I've only had 5x and I have to say, although it doesn't get you fucked like the other extracts would, you still get some cool body high feelings and a strange eye effect that can only be described as "low fps".

Salvia actually fucking has a fucking reverse tolerance so the less you fucking do it the stronger your fucking tolerance to it the more you fuckin do it the stronger the fucking potency. [editline]05:25PM[/editline] [QUOTE=Oecleus;18058505]It isn't irrelevant because still developing minds are going to be more susceptible than matured minds.[/QUOTE] that is not how fucking drugs work [editline]05:26PM[/editline] [QUOTE=breakyourfac;18058436]There is no such thing as 100x salvia, unless it was a white powder because extracting it that many times that's what you'd get, The exraction goes up to either 60x or 80x I can't remember, but 100x is a scam.[/QUOTE] once you hit 40x its pretty much bullshit

[QUOTE=Oecleus;18058505]It isn't irrelevant because still developing minds are going to be more susceptible than matured minds.[/QUOTE] It's irrelevant because neither of us are under the age of 18. Both of our minds are fully developed (or close enough). Regardless of whether or not you're right (you're not), it has no impact on the situation. [QUOTE=Oecleus;18058505]It won't cause a trip all by itself, but it will certainly downplay or over exaggerate your trip. You are really underestimating placebo.[/QUOTE] Have you ever used drugs? You don't know shit about drugs, and yet you are ready and willing to talk like you do...

[QUOTE=Anubis678;18052509]Do you know anything about Salvia...? Ok, first off, you do realize that tolerance comes from repeated use, right? So if you've never smoked it, then how the fuck would you have a higher tolerance than I would? Secondly, salvia doesn't build a tolerance like most drugs do. In fact, a lot of people claim that it builds an inverse tolerance (i.e. - the more you do it, the stronger the effects). No, I'm not exaggerating anything. Why don't you go do some goddamn research? Any person who has [b]properly[/b] (I'm going to assume that's where your mistake was, since you clearly don't know shit about salvia) smoked a salvia extract will tell you how much of total mindfuck it is. Again with the ignorance... Diphenhydramine is a powerful deliriant in high doses. Drugs are drugs, dipshit. It has nothing to do with being "weak minded" Now get the fuck out of here before you make yourself look more like an ass.[/QUOTE] For any hallucinogenic, there's a large mental aspect. I'm sure a teenage drug addict, like your self, is much more susceptible to the effects of a hallucinogenic. [i]Get over it.[/i] I have strong tolerance to any drug/medication with psychological side effects due to the medication I've been on for years. It has nothing to do with your body being able to handle the drug. If it did I wouldn't have nearly ruined a couch from sweating so bad. I really wish I wasn't that way because I would like to be able to hallucinate off of something and see what it's like. Due to my current occupation, I have to be careful about what I put in my system because of random drug tests, and salvia is about the only thing I'm not going to lose my career over. (just stating that so someone doesn't start recommending a list of things I'd get fired over) Benadryl is nothing. You can take enough to half kill yourself and see dots in your vision, or repeatedly pass out and wake up rapidly, dreaming, thinking you're hallucinating. But that's all it's doing, making you fall asleep very briefly and dream.

I'm done with you. Get the hell out of here.

5x and 10x are so worthless Last time I took a massive hit of 10x all I did was lay on my side drooling for 2 minutes. [editline]05:40PM[/editline] [QUOTE=Anubis678;18063247]I'm fucking done with you. Get the hell out of here.[/QUOTE] you were wrong about some stuff though

[QUOTE=xxFoxxx;18055074]Even though your story seems unlikely and something was telling me that you were bullshitting, I was giving you the benefit of the doubt and actually taking your story seriously up until you said this. If you've ever been on salvia (or any other psychedelic, for that matter) proper, you would have [I]never[/I] said that. You're just trying to seem like a hardass just like all of the other people who only drink and/or smoke weed. When your brain is under the influence of these chemicals, there is no exaggerating. Strength of the mind has absolutely zero to do with how well you keep your shit together. You are at the drug's will and nothing can stop it. Seriously, just stop. You've made it abundantly clear that you don't know what you're talking about.[/QUOTE] I honestly want to see shit and freak out. It has nothing to do with being a hard ass. It has to do with being extremely pissed off that all of my friends are sitting around going bonkers off 1 hit, and I take 4 and nothing happens beyond sweating my self stupid.

[QUOTE=Firerain;18063254]you were wrong about some stuff though[/QUOTE] Like what?

salvia tolerance

[QUOTE=Firerain;18063370]salvia tolerance[/QUOTE] Were you wrong too? Because I said the same thing you did, before you did... [QUOTE=Anubis678;18052509]Do you know anything about Salvia...? Ok, first off, you do realize that tolerance comes from repeated use, right? So if you've never smoked it, then how the fuck would you have a higher tolerance than I would? Secondly, salvia doesn't build a tolerance like most drugs do. In fact, a lot of people claim that it builds an inverse tolerance (i.e. - the more you do it, the stronger the effects).[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Anubis678;18063388]Were you wrong too? Because I said the same thing you did, before you did...[/QUOTE] He said the [b]more[/b] you smoke it the more likely to get fucked up you are. At least rewording it to avoid confusion.

[QUOTE=DrMortician;18063426]He said the [b]more[/b] you smoke it the more likely to get fucked up you are. At least rewording it to avoid confusion.[/QUOTE] And that is exactly what I said in that post.

[QUOTE=Anubis678;18063388]Were you wrong too? Because I said the same thing you did, before you did...[/QUOTE] no you were right you just rambled on about how could have a higher tolerance when he probably dies that is all

[QUOTE=Firerain;18063469]no you were right you just rambled on about how could have a higher tolerance[/QUOTE] That's what I do. I ramble :smug:

[QUOTE=Anubis678;18063489]That's what I do. I ramble :smug:[/QUOTE] ya you ramble around with a cock in yo mouth cockrambler set satnav for cum

[QUOTE=Firerain;18063654]ya you ramble around with a cock in yo mouth cockrambler set satnav for cum[/QUOTE] This is why we can't have nice things :smile: [editline]08:56PM[/editline] but i still rated you funny

Oh you lads are pissing me off.

Salvia doesn't always affect people first time. My mate first tried 30x and felt nothing. A few months later I bought some 15x and he said he was fucked.