[QUOTE=Furioso;38141141]when I take shrooms I feel like I'm connecting with a dark, ancient and primordial presence that freaks me the fuck out but it still feels natural. just frightening
DMT and mescaline are golden for me though, I get the same feeling of connecting with nature as though it were a sentient and omnipresent entity whose thoughts I shared but it isn't scary or dark like shrooms, it's just totally blissful[/QUOTE]
you've taken dmt? i've heard dmt is pretty damn frightening at a proper dose.
[QUOTE=ToxicJoy;38149030]you've taken dmt? i've heard dmt is pretty damn frightening at a proper dose.[/QUOTE]
I've never had a frightening DMT trip.
[QUOTE=TamTamJam;38141456]what type of environment do you take shrooms in?[/QUOTE]
I used to do it with and around close friends in open-house situations with large, lush backyards (for laying out and staring at the sky and being in "nature") where we could stay for several days at least. but after the third time I shroomed and it was still just as freaky (first time was a full eighth, second time was a half eighth, third time was merely a gram) I gave up on psilocybin mushrooms. I still want to try amanita mushrooms though
[QUOTE=SuperNatural;38149997]I've never had a frightening DMT trip.[/QUOTE]
well then, do you have good memory of what happened? any type of chronological order of events?
anyone from the UK know what are good brands of seeds?
[QUOTE=ToxicJoy;38152950]well then, do you have good memory of what happened? any type of chronological order of events?[/QUOTE]
I might write out a full trip report with actual effort if there's interest in it but my own trip went something like so: At the third toke, I started to feel very heavy and somewhat dizzy, upon exhaling the third hit there was a very profound rushing sensation, almost like sailing down the first drop of a rollercoaster. I collapsed into the bed and glanced around the room - everything was contorting and crawling and it was like a mist was filling the room. I was overcome with the urge to close my eyes, and I was greeted with the familiar warm, brown of one's eyelids. But a scene began to appear before me, as though it were being painted before my eyes. A desolate, barren landscape emerged - death manifest. Then bits of color started to surface, green sprouts and saplings began to spring forth from the ash-grey ground. As they grew and took form as very fractal-like structures, I watched a rainforest grow in front of me. Centuries of growth within the span of what seemed like seconds. The scene was now a lush, green jungle with bright sporadic patches of other colors, brightly colored orange, yellow and blue flowers and fruiting bodies. Life manifest. Life from death. Patterns and eyes began to form all over everything in the scene, which remained intact, but changed dramatically. I understood the jungle was now one collective organism, and the countless eyes shifted their gaze directly towards me. I felt the awesome presence of nature, the actual manifestation of nature as this enormous hive-mind organism. I felt as though Nature was trying to communicate something to me telepathically, but I could not understand it. The scene began to collapse and fall apart, patterns started falling off the trees and flowers, the eyes sank back into the forest, and within seconds it all disappeared into a singularity. I opened my eyes and the room was still spinning, but it didn't matter, I felt amazing. It was then that I became aware of the most incredible afterglow I've ever felt, my body high was out of this world. After a minute the room came right back together again and I was left dumbstruck and amazed and blissful all at once.
that was fantastic, thanks. i'm definitely jealous of your experience.
How do these actually compare to LSD in terms of effects? Cause I've tried LSD twice and loved it but I've heard both good and bad things about LSA.
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These sound pretty good, but how legal are they to purchase from like amazon?
Very, but only to plant. In the ground. So obviously, you're only interested in the beauty of the flowers. I trust you.
Say I wanted to plant some of these. How long would it take before I could harvest the seeds from those? About how many seeds can I find in one plant?
I wonder if [url=http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MORNING-GLORY-IPOMOEA-BLUE-STAR-700-FINEST-SEEDS-/370629110678?pt=UK_HomeGarden_Garden_PlantsSeedsBulbs_JN&hash=item564b376b96]this[/url] can be considered as [I]organic[/I]? I wanna eat all 700 of them at once but I'm afraid I'll have a bad trip like I had one with DXM where I just sat on the toilet for over a hour and a half pissing through my ass. Literally. Bad memories..
Make sure you all do some research on LSA's vasoconstrictive properties(since most of us wont be consuming pure lsa)... Friends have reported blue limbs and shortness of breath, especially in high doses extracted from ergot
[QUOTE=Panto;38227605]I wonder if [url=http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MORNING-GLORY-IPOMOEA-BLUE-STAR-700-FINEST-SEEDS-/370629110678?pt=UK_HomeGarden_Garden_PlantsSeedsBulbs_JN&hash=item564b376b96]this[/url] can be considered as [I]organic[/I]? I wanna eat all 700 of them at once but I'm afraid I'll have a bad trip like I had one with DXM where I just sat on the toilet for over a hour and a half pissing through my ass. Literally. Bad memories..[/QUOTE]
those would be a gamble to get. see if you can find it where they actual say organic. and i found the ice cream to coat my stomach nicely and not produce any nausea that i can remember. haha awful way to go down
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[QUOTE=Krinkels;38226770]Say I wanted to plant some of these. How long would it take before I could harvest the seeds from those? About how many seeds can I find in one plant?[/QUOTE]
I planted one last year and never found any seeds that season. I don't know if rabbits or some shit got at it but i'd suggest planting them as early in the season as possible to ensure they go through a complete cycle... or some shit
[QUOTE=ToxicJoy;38240826]those would be a gamble to get. see if you can find it where they actual say organic. and i found the ice cream to coat my stomach nicely and not produce any nausea that i can remember. haha awful way to go down
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I planted one last year and never found any seeds that season. I don't know if rabbits or some shit got at it but i'd suggest planting them as early in the season as possible to ensure they go through a complete cycle... or some shit[/QUOTE]
Winter's coming soon though. How can I grow them indoors?
[QUOTE=Krinkels;38241667]Winter's coming soon though. How can I grow them indoors?[/QUOTE]
Just wait, morning glories are something I have found to be very beneficial if you just let it grow for a year or two, they spread like crazy and you'll end up getting more seeds anyways. Plus they look just rad in a garden. If you don't feel like waiting that long or can't appreciate the plant then you might as well order them online, the yield will be very small for a large amount of time.
Instead of Morning Glory seeds, one should order HBWR (Hawaiian Baby Woodrose) seeds instead. Instead of 500 MG seeds you only need to take around 10 of HBWR seeds for a great LSA trip.
[quote=ToxicJoy]those would be a gamble to get. see if you can find it where they actual say organic. and i found the ice cream to coat my stomach nicely and not produce any nausea that i can remember. haha awful way to go down[/quote]
You have a good point with the ice cream. I ordered 50 organic HBWR seeds.. once I get them, I'll grind 10 of them up and extract the LSA into water and dump the seed mush. Afterwards I'll just make a ice-cream cocktail just to be sure to get rid of any possible nausea. And diarrhea.. :v:
If you all want to get rid of the nausea I suggest doing an ethanol extraction they reaaally help.
[quote]Unfortunately, Anonymous D is incorrect in his location of the nausea inducing compounds, because the removal becomes increasingly difficult when the location becomes apparent. The nausea associated with Argyreia Nervosa is caused by a degradation of cyanogenic glycosides by specific body enzymes, resulting in hydrocyanic acid, or hydrogen cyanide. The cyanogenic glycosides were first detected in the "fuzz" coating the seeds, but the content proved to be minute. The highest concentration of the glycosides is in the essential oils of the seed itself, inducing nausea regardless of shell/fuzz presence. The extraction process could remove the majority of the Cyanide ions, depending on the method, but unless a pure product is produced, SWIM would expect mild nausea with an LSA experience, even a powdered or alcohol based extract.
Read more: [url]http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=99707#ixzz2Aqi6HUYe[/url][/quote]
Or you know go hard or go home and do a a/b extractiion.
[url]https://www.erowid.org/archive/rhodium/chemistry/equipment/rextal.a-b.basics.html[/url] read this*
[url]http://www.erowid.org/archive/rhodium/chemistry/hcl-gas.html[/url] this
[url]http://www.erowid.org/plants/morning_glory/morning_glory_extraction1.shtml[/url] and this
ate 7 HBWR seeds about an hour ago
feeling pretty good, a little nauseous but it's tolerable with weed, visuals are starting to come on and I'm feeling positive waves
[QUOTE=Furioso;38259956]ate 7 HBWR seeds about an hour ago
feeling pretty good, a little nauseous but it's tolerable with weed, visuals are starting to come on and I'm feeling positive waves[/QUOTE]
I've got HBWR seeds that im eating in a few hours, how are you feeling now?
He was telling me he was having the best trip he had ever had
[QUOTE=Furioso;38259956]ate 7 HBWR seeds about an hour ago
feeling pretty good, a little nauseous but it's tolerable with weed, visuals are starting to come on and I'm feeling positive waves[/QUOTE]
That's good man you don't wanna be feeling those negative waves [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KuStsFW4EmQ[/media]
Holy shit.
I have morning glories.
Well this thread sure is interesting.
Did a complete alcohol extraction with morning glories and the HBWR seeds, in two different things of everclear. Making friend test them hahahah :)
I bought 1500 seeds off of amazon and bought an electric coffee grinder, boiled the seeds for 4 minutes to get the black coating off to reveal a very smooth brown color. I ground 775 seeds up to a fine fluffy powder and mixed it all in with a serving of vanilla yogurt. The texture wasn't quite pleasant but I did not see the need to hold the gagable substance on my tongue, rather I swiftly swallowed it all in about 10 spoonfuls.. I live at my girlfriend's house, and it's nice to not have to worry about the parentals finally. Although her mom was here while I was tripping, she was 5 days out of a spinal surgery, recovering. (funny side note: they perscribed her morphine tablets and she claimed to be so fucked up that she talked to "beings from the other side, and demons, and people that needed help. mind you this is hallucinations happening on opiates and muscle relaxers, which i would have personally never thought would cause hallucinations like that. Intriguing though.)
But I basically had the best trip of my life. About 1 hour into the trip I was not feeling anything yet, so I decided to go on a walk. It was pretty damn cold, but I was starting to notice a slight peculiararity about the contrast of the green grass up against all the dead brush and dirt in the middle of a crop field that was harvested and turned. Walking on it was interesting because it was so fluffy that I would sink in quite a bit. 6 or more inches lol. But I continued on my walk. As I came close to home I felt a hint of nauseau and wondered for a brief second if I was going to vomit, but I believe my positive attitude going into the trip saved me from nausea because I didn't mind the thought of bending over to puke real quick, and I predetermined that the rewards of morning glory seeds are greater than the confrontation with nausea that usually occurs at the 1 or 2 hour mark. I was still pretty damn cold lol, but once I got home I warmed up and felt really good and energetic. I was sitting in a room that was dark, with the moderately-lit kitchen across and open. To the left was the darkness, and when I veered to the right, the transition between dark and light surroundings made more of an intuitive impact on me. This is when I first noticed that morning glories emphasize motion. I noticed while staying still, things felt pretty grounded, but when I moved, it was drunkenly smooth and slow.
My girlfriend rolled up a blunt, because we previously planned out to have a couple grams for the occasion, and we went out to the car and smoked in there. We decided to put on the radio, rather than plugging in my ipod and it turned out to be a great idea. I cannot remember the song, but it was bliss. the higher I got the more enhanced I felt. My thoughts were connecting in unique an abstract ways, but still amazingly coherent, confirmed by my girlfriend. We were actually having a great conversation. My movements felt loose, and I lost all sense of ticklishness. (I'm usually ticklish) Then we went to walgreens and at first I had a slight uneasy feeling about going there, but then i realized there was a solution lol. all that has to be done is hold a steady subtle smile. the aspect of holding eye contact with people in a crowded walgreens while tripping pretty hard at this point was the dilemma in my mind at the time. But as I continued to hold this steady subtle smile, while remembering reading somewhere that smiling actually releases endorphins. The longer I held the smiler the more 'right' it felt and the paranoia aspect of the situation completely diminished. (I've had a couple bad trips on shrooms lol) Once we left walgreens and got back home with a shitload of candy, I overstimulated my senses by eating jolly ranchers and skittles and lolipops of all flavors. At this point I was thinking in a very intense, self centered, self motivating, self accepting way. Everything that came my way, I was able to take it as it came. I eventually closed my eyes, having intense closed eye visuals. I could see immense, fast paced geometric shapes, and when I closed my eyes, I could still see the figures of light from my environment shining through my eyelids, and the geometric shapes meticulously filled in where you would normally just see a blur of light. The blur had veins, like a circuit board mixed with a fractal.
I continued to hold a steady smile for hours at this point, and I was begining to become intrigued of how similar to ecstacy it felt at times. I started drawing crazy pictures with all types of colors too. The intense glow of a thick yellow marker on white paper was almost too intense to believe that yellow had that much power in average lighting conditions. Many other pictures were drawn. they appeared as quite silly and primitive drawings to other people when I showed them, but the feeling of moving colored markers around, not worrying about what you are making, and instead enjoying the placeent of colors being added live, like a fireworks show. I woke up the next morning quite off balance, but my thoughts were still extra philisophical and metaphorical until about 3 days after. I experienced post-trip shakes. My movement's felt a little unstable and my placement was off, parkinson-like. I assume this is a rebound effect from coming down, and I accepted that as well.. It passed after a day or two.
Everything about this trip was so worth it. I feel like I reallllly got what I wanted out of it, especially compared to when i took 250 seeds and 500 seeds.
I'm convinced taking ground up morning glory seeds is better for one's stomach if you use yogurt or ice cream, rather than orange juice, or some other liquid. The thickness of the dairy makes the seed matter less likely to purge, and allows for the seeds to digest at a slower, steadier rater. I also decided to not drink liquid until about an hour after i ate the spiked yogurt.
also, boiling the black mercury coating off the seeds is the quickest easiet way to do it. 4 minutes in there is all you need. I also don't see a need to take more than 775 ever again. I do not see myself doing morning glories or any other psychedelic for quite a while due to the ultimate satisfaction of this trip.
I LOVE THIS DRUG. I most definitely 100 fucking percent favor this over lsd and psilocybin and especially dxm anyday. Also, weed is a basic nesecity for lsa imo. Love yall, I hope you got some enjoyment out of my experience.
uuuugh people need to learn how to use paragraphs
thinking of buying 1100 and grinding it up into some food, any ideas what could be nice?
[QUOTE=Stormcharger;38797490]uuuugh people need to learn how to use paragraphs[/QUOTE]
my bad I wrote in a mania and fell asleep right afterward. hopefully it's a little easier to read now.
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