i thought death grips' "the money store" was way overhyped but the first two tracks are great
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i think justice gets a lot of undeserved praise honestly
justice sucks actually
i like a lot of daft punk's stuff because even though it's pretty poppy and repetitive there's some kind of inspiration and creativity going on there. with justice i don't really hear any of that. the tracks fail to hook me. it seems like music created solely for people to party to, and the band's image seems to reflect that. i'm not really a consumer of it tbh.
[QUOTE=quinaking;36969518]I don't understand The Strokes.[/QUOTE]
The Strokes are one of the most important, if not the most important band of the 2000's.
They are to the 00's what Nirvana was for 90's rock pretty much.
[QUOTE=DamagePoint;36972879]The Strokes are one of the most important, if not the most important band of the 2000's.
They are to the 00's what Nirvana was for 90's rock pretty much.[/QUOTE]
They're good. But I wouldn't go that far.
I'm not sure their last 2 albums were worth much to the entire "moving forward" of rock music. If anything, they did move some kind of "garage/punk revival" foward with the first 2 records. But as a whole.. Not sure.
The Strokes are just awful.
The whole post-punk/garage rock revival thing was absolutely terrible, practically a celebration of regression and refusal to form a sound of your own.
Dreadful shit.
[QUOTE=SellSeashells;36974225]The Strokes are just awful.
The whole post-punk/garage rock revival thing was absolutely terrible, practically a celebration of regression and refusal to form a sound of your own.
Dreadful shit.[/QUOTE]
Are you against Garage Rock/Post-Punk or are you against music that revives a lost era?
[QUOTE=AK'z;36974260]Are you against Garage Rock/Post-Punk or are you against music that revives a lost era?[/QUOTE]
I love both garage rock(to a smaller degree) and post-punk, I just don't see a point in bands doing nothing but mimicking other bands from 20-30 years ago without even attempting to distinguish themselves and create their own signature sound.
If I wanted to listen to, I dunno, The Stooges or Gang of Four I'd go and listen to those bands, not to some schmucks doing poor imitations of those bands(which, in my experience, has always been the case with post-punk and garage rock revivalists; they just sound like poor men's versions of their obvious influences).
[QUOTE=SellSeashells;36974287]I love both garage rock(to a smaller degree) and post-punk, I just don't see a point in bands doing nothing but mimicking other bands from 20-30 years ago.
If I wanted to listen to, I dunno, The Stooges or Gang of Four I'd go and listen to those bands, not to some schmucks doing poor imitations of those bands(which, in my experience, has always been the case with post-punk and garage rock revivalists; they just sound like poor men's versions of their obvious influences).[/QUOTE]
There's a clear difference between artists copying one another, and using influences.
You're against anyone using influences. The Stooges were innovators, and you're being obtuse. "Schmucks" and "Poor Men's Versions" is not an intelligent opinion mate.
[QUOTE=DamagePoint;36972879]The Strokes are one of the most important, if not the most important band of the 2000's.
They are to the 00's what Nirvana was for 90's rock pretty much.[/QUOTE]
Theres a bit of an difference in how important Nirvana are. Nirvana defined 90s rock and brought it into the mainstream. The Strokes had a good album which the majority of people have never even heard
No, taking influences is fine.
PIL took influences from krautrock and dub but their albums(at least the first three or so, before Levene and Wobble left) still sounded like nothing that came before them, they still had a signature sound and made music that was quite unlike anything else around at that time.
Post-punk revivalists don't do that, they don't form a distinct sound that makes you go "hey, this is some new shit right here, I've never heard a band that sounds like this before", they form a sound that, for me at least, makes me go "hey, this sounds like Joy Division! hey, this sounds like Wire! hey, this sounds like The Chameleons!"
It's just regressive and boring, and it's especially silly when it comes to a genre like post-punk where the whole gist of it was that bands experimented with formats and influences and technology and everything at their disposal in order to create something new and groundbreaking.
Most post-punk revivalists don't even try to imitate more interesting and stranger bands(like PIL for example, or This Heat), they just imitate the most basic and least left-field stuff like Joy Division and The Cure(both good bands, to be sure)
And I don't care whether I sound intelligent or not, I'm just trying to state my opinion.
On a note completely different from the ongoing discussion:
Even though I like Taylor Swift, and I like her music too, I think maybe the quality doesn't quite live up to the popularity. :)
[QUOTE=SellSeashells;36974394]for me at least, makes me go "hey, this sounds like Joy Division! hey, this sounds like Wire! hey, this sounds like The Chameleons!"[/QUOTE]
I see nothing wrong with this. Although I get what you're saying.
It's just a vibe that you get that is similar to the people who were a big part in the start.
It's just boring and uninteresting to me is all I'm saying.
But yeah, different folks different strokes and all that, I've got no problem with people liking The Strokes or genre revivalists in general, they're just not something that I enjoy.
[QUOTE=DamagePoint;36972879]The Strokes are one of the most important, if not the most important band of the 2000's.
They are to the 00's what Nirvana was for 90's rock pretty much.[/QUOTE]
Wow I have never even heard of The Strokes but I'm pretty sure they are not.
Also that post makes you look like a huge fanboy.
The Strokes are fun.... That's about it.
I fucking love the strokes. First 2 albums are great, and so is the latest. Not quite up to that standard but it's great. They sound like my early teens.
My opinion isn't the same as yours so the artist you like who happens to be more popular than the artist I like is overrated.
But really I dunno I can't say I like a lot of the IDM many people hail as genius and stuff.
[QUOTE=hugarh;36974315]The Strokes had a good album which the majority of people have never even heard[/QUOTE]
What? Everyone I know has listened to Is This It at least once in their life. Is This It is the Nevermind of the 2000's. Decade defining.
A huge number of rock bands that emerged from the 00's owe something to The Strokes.
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[QUOTE=AK'z;36974139]I'm not sure their last 2 albums were worth much to the entire "moving forward" of rock music. If anything, they did move some kind of "garage/punk revival" foward with the first 2 records. But as a whole.. Not sure.[/QUOTE]
Tbh I've never heard any of their music after their first two records. But their first two albums did hit the rock world like a ton of bricks.
literally never heard any songs by the strokes
Rolling Stones
[QUOTE=DamagePoint;36979911]What? Everyone I know has listened to Is This It at least once in their life. Is This It is the Nevermind of the 2000's. Decade defining.
A huge number of rock bands that emerged from the 00's owe something to The Strokes.[/QUOTE]
Yeah sure totally.
[editline]29th July 2012[/editline]
Stop being a huge fanboy and stop spewing pretentious shit.
[QUOTE=DamagePoint;36979911]What? Everyone I know has listened to Is This It at least once in their life. Is This It is the Nevermind of the 2000's. Decade defining.
[/QUOTE]
wat about radiohead
I think I've heard Is This It? once and I don't remember a single thing about it.
