• TotalBiscuit talks about Hatred removal on Steam
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[QUOTE=onebit;46727095]Every pyramid is built by bricks.[/QUOTE] Can you stop posting bullshit non-answers? If you're so against violent video games, stop playing them.
hatred will be released somehow, I'm sure. probably through the developer's website. All this means is that you won't be able to buy it through steam. Dont you worry, you little sociopaths.
Really what upsets me is that Valve removes this games but keeps Greenlighting shit like Air Control, Earth: Year 2066, etc.
I just can't wait for Valve to kick the bucket on Greenlight. It's such a bad system.
[QUOTE=onebit;46726623]Consider a child might play this and consider it acceptable behavior, if there is no one else around to tell it otherwise.[/QUOTE] hi jack thompson, didnt know you browsed facepunch
I love the developers for making this game, whether they did it to make a point or not.
[QUOTE=papaya;46727147]hatred will be released somehow, I'm sure. probably through the developer's website. All this means is that you won't be able to buy it through steam. [B]Dont you worry, you little sociopaths.[/B][/QUOTE] Woah, who punched your clock? It is a Video Game. A Video Game.
[QUOTE=Kljunas;46727156]Really what upsets me is that Valve removes this games but keeps Greenlighting shit like Air Control, Earth: Year 2066, etc.[/QUOTE] The community is responsible for those getting on Steam, though. It doesn't make it better but it's not really Valve's fault as such.
[QUOTE=onebit;46726623]Consider a child might play this and consider it acceptable behavior, if there is no one else around to tell it otherwise.[/QUOTE] You could say the same about every FPS
[QUOTE=Kljunas;46727156]Really what upsets me is that Valve removes this games but keeps Greenlighting shit like Air Control, Earth: Year 2066, etc.[/QUOTE] Those are bad games but inoffensive (i.e valve wouldn't remove them for the same reason as hatred). As a matter of fact, both of your examples have been removed and refunded by valve.
All theese stupid arguments you people throw at eachother. Steam should not censor anything, or disallow a game to be released because 'muh PR', i think Steam is a big enough company to be the first one to actually not throw shit at this game. I mean, it already has a few mass-murder simulators, Postal, Postal II, all of the GTA's. It even has a game that is offensive to every christian on the fucking planet, namely Binding of Isaac, why sovel shit on Hatred? Because of the kids? Then remove ANYTHING that has violence and lets leave only titles that are suitable for 6 years old. PR nightmare? I doubt they would lose people just because of one fucking game, maybe some SJW's but it's still a miniscule amount. By no means I say Hatred is a good game or that I am interested in it, but what Valve does is just pure stupid.
[QUOTE=onebit;46726623]Consider a child might play this and consider it acceptable behavior, if there is no one else around to tell it otherwise.[/QUOTE] Holy shit, this is a literal, unironic "THINK OF THE CHILDREN" post. I never thought I'd see the day.
if you get offended by hatred you are a child who probably shouldn't go outside or watch the news
It's very hypocritical and dumb that this game got closed off while Postal and Manhunt did not. The thing is though, when those were put on steam, their press nightmare had been long passed. They no longer were a hot button topic, so it was fine to put them on from a PR perspective. In the case of Hatred though, it's brand new and the press surrounding it is still pretty sizeable and relevant to the game's release. Valve has every reason to be terrified about letting this stay on steam. It's not right or fair by any means but I'm pretty sure that's why this happened. It's kinda funny though that doing this to save them from bad PR just ended up giving them more of it
Wow, I think Valve may have single-handedly given Hatred the most media attention the devs could ever have hoped for, by banning it from Steam.
I really don't understand why Valve are doing this. I mean, is anyone going to boycott Steam just because this is on it? I'd wait for a petition or something before taking it down immediately. Then they would come off as caring about what their customers think, at least.
[QUOTE=onebit;46727423]if the environment was capable of sustaining a green tunic, a pointy green hat, and killing with swords, chances are you'd do.[/QUOTE] What humbug crawled up your ass and died? Are you seriously going out of your way to do this sort of argument in as much of an arrogant-sounding, assholeish manner as possible?
Postal 1 had a mission where you had to kill grade schoolers, but somehow that was a "tasteful use of violence"? Give me a break
[QUOTE=CrucialSeBBi;46727570]Postal 1 had a mission where you had to kill grade schoolers, but somehow that was a "tasteful use of violence"? Give me a break[/QUOTE] well you didn't play the game then. you couldn't kill the kids they actually all ended up killing you and that was the ending of the game
[QUOTE=onebit;46727477]you live in a world sustaining leather coats, knives, and guns, is this not what you see?[/QUOTE] So, if the developers removed the leather coat, the knife, and the guns then it would be okay to publish this game? Cool, make it a game where you run around naked and punch people to death. Problem solved. And BTW, you can totally get green pointy hats, shirts, and swords, so people who have played Zelda should currently be running around smashing peoples pots or something?
[QUOTE=onebit;46727641]Do you think a lot of people use that type of clothing and smash pots on a reoccurring basis?[/QUOTE] Do you think a lot of people run around with guns in public? Do you think that just by owning a leather jacket that somehow makes you a potential psycho, who only needs to be "primed" by a shitty video game?
[QUOTE=onebit;46727641]Do you think a lot of people use that type of clothing and smash pots on a reoccurring basis?[/QUOTE] are you ignoring the fact that there have been a plethora of peer-reviewed studies that indicate there is no correlation between violence in children and the playing of violent video games? in fact, there are studies that have shown that violent crime incidence among minors is at the lowest rate its ever been; people went batshit thinking DOOM would make kids sociopaths for glorifying violence, gore, and satanism, and following the release of the game, no one went off and murdered people because they had played the game, and violent crime continues to decline [editline]16th December 2014[/editline] its like you have no basic understanding of human psychology
[QUOTE=Loriborn;46727712]its like you have no basic understanding of human psychology[/QUOTE] As do billions of humans around the world, sadly.
[QUOTE=onebit;46727477]you live in a world sustaining leather coats, knives, and guns, is this not what you see?[/QUOTE] Ah, so this is why Call of Duty has led to the United States of America declaring war on Russia, then? Yeah, no. Video games, like any form of media, only affect very vulnerable minds- those people should be protected, yes, because them hurting themselves or others is to be avoided, but censorship is not the way to go about doing that, or at the very least not a very good way. [editline]16th December 2014[/editline] The scenes in Cannibal Holocaust, a 70s 'snuff' (not really) movie, were so realistic that the director was taken to court for the murder of the actors, despite them all being alive. Nobody decided to start spearing and eating people based on that movie, so why would somebody put on a trenchcoat and gun down civilians just because they did it in a video game? If that were the case, we'd all be playing 'Help Everyone Out Simulator' or 'Obey the Government Simulator', because the world wouldn't let a tool like that go unused.
The fact that they remove it before the Greenlight make his choice shouldn't happen. I still do not like the design for Hatred. Not because you kill lot of peoples, but more because it bring the concept of killing innocent civilians on a grim, serious, edgy and brutal way. It feel uncomfortable to watch. Something like GTA or Postal bring it in a more satire and humoristic way which remind you than this is a video games and that you are looking for entertainment. It won't bother me if it get release, but i won't look to play it tho.
[QUOTE=onebit;46727477]you live in a world sustaining leather coats, knives, and guns, is this not what you see?[/QUOTE] You have a really weird perception of the world.
[QUOTE=papaya;46727147]hatred will be released somehow, I'm sure. probably through the developer's website. All this means is that you won't be able to buy it through steam. Dont you worry, you little sociopaths.[/QUOTE] I'm a sociopath for wanting to play a game that has gotten so much publicity? You guys and the media are the reason why I want to play the game. [editline]16th December 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=papaya;46727281]Those are bad games but inoffensive (i.e valve wouldn't remove them for the same reason as hatred). As a matter of fact, both of your examples have been removed and refunded by valve.[/QUOTE] Well Valve stated that they didn't want Hatred on Steam because it's not something they'd feel comfortable putting their name on. So by that logic, they'd be okay with putting their name on something like Garry's Incident, Revelations 2012 or one of the many early access games that are hardly functional?
[QUOTE=Gamerman12;46726693]But I'll say this: no game has ever generated as much controversy as Hatred, except possibly Hot Coffee or Mortal Kombat. Therefore, it makes sense for Valve not wanting to put it on their storefront. [/QUOTE] What about Manhunt or Postal?
[QUOTE=Gamerman12;46726693]But I'll say this: [B]no game has ever generated as much controversy as Hatred, except possibly Hot Coffee or Mortal Kombat.[/B] [/QUOTE] Are you kidding me? We forgetting about how much controversy that Grand Theft Auto has brewed over the years or hell the above post's suggestions of postal and manhunt?
I haven't really kept up with the subject matter of the game but last I heard it's a game about murdering unarmed minorities and it was developed by a team with a few, shall we say, "right-leaning" members. If that's true, how is this game at all defensible? If not, then I guess it is hypocritical.
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