Doctor Who V2 - General - Facepunch Forum

[QUOTE=Marlamin;21967853]Amy was pregnant. So the crack was filled. :smug:[/QUOTE] I think I see what you did their. Or what Rory did.

Just spent 2 hours streaming the stupid HD version of it. Pretty good episode.

Just thought that I would let people know that you can now watch the non HD version on iplayer. They took their bloody time.

Maybe there wasn't a crack, since why would there be one in a dream?

Didn't Moffat say the main enemy of the series would appear in every episode?

[QUOTE=Echidna666;21970059]Didn't Moffat say the main enemy of the series would appear in every episode?[/QUOTE] Well, it's either Amy, Rory or The Doctor. Rory would certainly be in interesting enemy, a human vs a Time Lord. Perhaps The Doctor is his worst enemy...

[QUOTE=DiscoInferno;21970459]Well, it's either Amy, Rory or The Doctor. Rory would certainly be in interesting enemy, a human vs a Time Lord. Perhaps The Doctor is his worst enemy...[/QUOTE] I thought it was the crack, but apparently it wasn't in this episode.

I really enjoyed that episode

Rory hasn't been in every episode.

[QUOTE=Echidna666;21970614]I thought it was the crack, but apparently it wasn't in this episode.[/QUOTE] Well it was all a dream, i don't think the cracks appear in dreams.

[QUOTE=CarlBooth;21971168]Rory hasn't been in every episode.[/QUOTE] Amy has.

[QUOTE=CarlBooth;21971168]Rory hasn't been in every episode.[/QUOTE] Well there goes my therory...

Sure there might be a crack on that cold star, sure I saw something. Worth a look. Similar colour and that.

[QUOTE=feltoni;21971971]Sure there might be a crack on that cold star, sure I saw something. Worth a look. Similar colour and that.[/QUOTE] There is. I can remember.

Just remembered at the start when the Doctor sits down on the bench, he goes 'I never abandon anyone who leaves the Tardis, nobody can escape me' or something like that, if so why did he even let Rose go back at the end of Series 4? Unless he had to for some reason. Also that line has to signal that we may see an old companion in the future.

[QUOTE=TrouserDemon;21971387]Amy has.[/QUOTE] So has the Doctor. Maybe the main villain is the Valeyard.

Don't know if it's me but that Dream Lord kind of reminds me of an annoying leprechaun.. EDIT: You know when the Doctor said there should be like a hitch to find out which was fake, looking back at the episode the Dream Lord kind of gave it away when he goes 'When you fall asleep...or maybe you wake up?'. Seems like he gave himself away there if you get me. Also, watched the regeneration again and just realised that Matt's acting seems like it's aged 10 years or something if you get me. Watch his first scene and compare it to the series, something seems really different about him. It's like after the regeneration he's a 'school kid' yet matures a lot in Series 5.

I have a feeling that he just said it was him to protect Amy and Rory.

I'm liking the new season so far. I absolutely love Amy, she's fucking adorable.

[QUOTE=feltoni;21972508]Just remembered at the start when the Doctor sits down on the bench, he goes 'I never abandon anyone who leaves the Tardis, nobody can escape me' or something like that, if so why did he even let Rose go back at the end of Series 4? Unless he had to for some reason. Also that line has to signal that we may see an old companion in the future.[/QUOTE] He was mocking himself I think. Because, he never seems to see them again. With a few exceptions, and it may have been hinting at the whole dreamlord/timelord thing.

Found this, Christopher Ecclestone can be masterfully creepy. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GsFE-TONe2w[/media]

[QUOTE=General Omega;21973103]I have a feeling that he just said it was him to protect Amy and Rory.[/QUOTE] That's what I thought. Even with the last reflection bit, it seemed like too easy a write off. Good story with pretty good writing, and it's all the result of some pollen and the Doctor's darker side? Don't get me wrong, I like the concept of it, the introspective element, but there's something else. If it wasn't another entity entirely, someone planted those pollen seeds. I'd almost say the Subject Zero thing but that, I feel, is just a lazy, boring idea. [editline]10:24PM[/editline] Also, that was remarkably creepy. Love British PSAs, pull no punches and are awesome in some way. On something only tangentially related, before Heath Ledger was announced as the Joker, quite a few people said Eccleston was one of the best choices for the Joker. I never got that. After some parts of Series 1 after a rewatch, I guess I saw it, and then that ad... Yeah, I can see it. Has the face for it, too.

[QUOTE=feltoni;21971971]Sure there might be a crack on that cold star, sure I saw something. Worth a look. Similar colour and that.[/QUOTE] Took a look. Looks like the crack the first two times you see the sun, but the third there's nothing at all. [img]http://www.cubeupload.com/files/2cda001.png[/img] [img]http://www.cubeupload.com/files/5438002.png[/img] [img]http://www.cubeupload.com/files/2356003.png[/img]

You know, I just thought of something really obvious. The show's been on for how long now, since 63? It's reaching the 50th anniversary right? Well, if we take into account that it's sort of "real time", I suppose... It boggles the mind about the Doctor's age and state of regeneration. It really does. I mean, think about it. He's supposedly somewhere in his 900s, late, middle, or early. I've got no doubt in the theory he himself lost count what with the time traveling and such. But in all of those years, he only regenerated in like the last 50? I mean, really. It's mindblowing to think of all of the time before the first episode. Nearly 900 years of adventures; everything he must have seen, it's crazy. And then you realize how...incompetent he's getting these days. I mean, there's the while "wibbly-wobbly, timey-wimey" thing going on with the audio dramas and books and such, but most of the adventures fall under the years of the show. Except for the Time War, it's all accounted for pretty much, I suppose, or at least effectively. But he supposedly never regenerated before Hartnell's departure. So nearly a millennium around, and he's only started to regenerate in the last 50 or so years? Doctor's been slipping up bad, it seems. Really, it's crazy to think of. Even if it's not just the show's times (Especially with the airing gap between McCoy, McGann, and Eccleston), it could still be condensed to a century or so. Wonder why he's relatively losing his edge after all the time, or alternatively what the life he was living before the original series to not regenerate all of that time if it's apparently so commonplace or frequent.

gonna rewatch this episode in HD and scan it like crazy for a crack!

[QUOTE=Lol Steve;21975307]You know, I just thought of something really obvious. The show's been on for how long now, since 63? It's reaching the 50th anniversary right? Well, if we take into account that it's sort of "real time", I suppose... It boggles the mind about the Doctor's age and state of regeneration. It really does. I mean, think about it. He's supposedly somewhere in his 900s, late, middle, or early. I've got no doubt in the theory he himself lost count what with the time traveling and such. But in all of those years, he only regenerated in like the last 50? I mean, really. It's mindblowing to think of all of the time before the first episode. Nearly 900 years of adventures; everything he must have seen, it's crazy. And then you realize how...incompetent he's getting these days. I mean, there's the while "wibbly-wobbly, timey-wimey" thing going on with the audio dramas and books and such, but most of the adventures fall under the years of the show. Except for the Time War, it's all accounted for pretty much, I suppose, or at least effectively. But he supposedly never regenerated before Hartnell's departure. So nearly a millennium around, and he's only started to regenerate in the last 50 or so years? Doctor's been slipping up bad, it seems. Really, it's crazy to think of. Even if it's not just the show's times (Especially with the airing gap between McCoy, McGann, and Eccleston), it could still be condensed to a century or so. Wonder why he's relatively losing his edge after all the time, or alternatively what the life he was living before the original series to not regenerate all of that time if it's apparently so commonplace or frequent.[/QUOTE]the first doctor regenerated when he was around 450. [url]http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/The_Doctor's_age[/url]

AH, reading through that I should have expected him to be "taken out of time" a few times and to have regenerated actually fairly spaced out. Wibbly wobbly. Just been spoiled by the new series and the two (Three? with the hand) regenerations within 6 years. Well now I feel like a dumbass, carry on then.

I enjoyed this episode, I just wish it was a bit more mind bending.

we all know the rumours of the cybermen in the last episode.... Here's a theory to almost prove this rumour... Im thinking back to a previous episode where someone says we werent all that came through the crack, perhaps this is the same crack at the end of season 2 where all the daleks and cyberman got trapped into, so perhaps at the first episode with the crack all this monsters and aliens got out.

[QUOTE=TheUnDeadGod;21978923]Im thinking back to a previous episode where someone says we werent all that came through the crack, perhaps this is the same crack at the end of season 2 where all the daleks and cyberman got trapped into, so perhaps at the first episode with the crack all this monsters and aliens got out.[/QUOTE] I'm pretty sure the Void Breach and the Cracks aren't connected... The Void Breach was a rift that opened out into the space between universes, whilst the Cracks are intradimensional lacerations, parts of spacetime that never shoulda touched, some of them leading to a source of "pure time" that eliminates things from history. Although I don't get how that'd work, wiping something from the entire Timestream. Or maybe it simply alters the destiny of the particles that would eventually comprise that thing, right at the beginning of the universe, causing them to become part of something else or something...