• WinRAR And The Infinite 40-Day Trial
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The trial popup sometimes shows an external ad too so thats another way for them to make revenue: [t]http://i.imgur.com/ePefZnx.png[/t]
[QUOTE=B!N4RY;51947361]7zip do have superior format support and compression algorithms, but its UI is absolutely atrocious.[/QUOTE] The UI isn't exactly stellar, but do you really care that much about it? Pretty much 99% of my usage scenarios are covered by its right-click context menu integration, and that part is really simple and easy to use.
I swtiched to 7Zip a long time ago not because I was annoyed by the dialog but actually because the compression speed and efficiency is so much better.
I've used it for so long, it'd be weird to switch now. It's easily the software I've used consistently for the longest time.
[QUOTE=glitchvid;51947631][u]You were the one who said archiving[/u], and if you plan on storing data for any long period of time redundancy isn't just a suggestion, it's a requirement. Look at AWS Glacier or Google's cold line storage, all are at least 3x redundant to prevent bit rot.[/QUOTE] And that's why I clarified my point saying I'm talking about of a different "archiving" use case than you are? I don't understand why this is worth being obnoxious about? [QUOTE=glitchvid;51947631] Distributing/sharing files (esp on flash media) doesn't need parity unless you're running the DoD nuclear codes around, your warez/whatever aren't going to corrupt between the time you write it to the drive and take it to school.[/QUOTE] The write process itself can actually cause errors which you won't know about immediately. This was a pretty big issues for removable storage in earlier days, and still somewhat problematic today if you have a bad cable for example. FYI, I was using this example only to roughly illustrate the scope of use case I was talking about, as part of the context from earlier. [QUOTE=glitchvid;51947631]For personal backups most people should use a proper service like Backblaze or another provider if they want their shit to be safe, not rely on a propriety format and hope only one or two bytes corrupt (whereas it's usually whole sectors on HDDs meaning GL getting that data back ecc or not). You'd be better served buying two HDDs and mirroring them (offline) and use the extra space from using 7z to put more data on there.[/QUOTE] Again, nobody here is arguing about backup ethics with you, and nowhere did I say having parity at the archive level alone is enough to [U]replace[/U] any other forms of data protection. All I've been saying is the .rar format is great for adding [U]an additional layer[/U] of protection at the [U]archive level[/U]. You can use this additional layer of protection to complement any protection you have at lower levels.
[QUOTE=B!N4RY;51948152]And that's why I clarified my point saying I'm talking about of a different "archiving" use case than you are? I don't understand why this is worth being obnoxious about?[/quote] Because I think .rar is a trash format and it hurts whenever I have to deal with it, so it would be great if it was stamped out of everywhere it's used. [QUOTE=B!N4RY;51948152] The write process itself can actually cause errors which you won't know about immediately. This was a pretty big issues for removable storage in earlier days, and still somewhat problematic today if you have a bad cable for example. [/Quote] I'm pretty sure all modern file managers or explorers CRC check once finishing a transfer. [QUOTE=B!N4RY;51948152] Again, nobody here is arguing about backup ethics with you, and nowhere did I say having parity at the archive level alone is enough to [U]replace[/U] any other forms of data protection. All I've been saying is the .rar format is great for adding [U]an additional layer[/U] of protection at the [U]archive level[/U]. You can use this additional layer of protection to complement any protection you have at lower levels.[/QUOTE] Most of what I'm saying is that rar isn't going to be a good file format for archiving since it's proprietary (does it have good batch tools for free? So they work on all modern operating systems​? How about future ones?). Concluding, it technically adds a layer of ecc at the container, but that need is serviced better by more efficient compression algorithms and better (and open source) container formats (tar and dar).
This is somewhat related I think, does anyone know any .rar extractors that let you extract 2 different .rar's at once? It seems like winrar and 7zip don't allow me to do that
The end of the video was amazing :v:
[QUOTE=milan755;51948357]This is somewhat related I think, does anyone know any .rar extractors that let you extract 2 different .rar's at once? It seems like winrar and 7zip don't allow me to do that[/QUOTE] Open two windows of 7z file manager and extract them individually?
[QUOTE=glitchvid;51948380]Open two windows of 7z file manager and extract them individually?[/QUOTE] Weird, I tried doing this but it just gave me an error
[QUOTE=milan755;51948466]Weird, I tried doing this but it just gave me an error[/QUOTE] Is it a multipart rar?
[QUOTE=glitchvid;51948498]Is it a multipart rar?[/QUOTE] It's for when I just feel like extracting 2 different .rar's at once. This isn't a big deal at all but it's a confusing limitation Also, my bad for kind of going off-topic
I didn't know the rar icon in the 'about' window animated when you clicked on it.
I had the same laptop in the video No idea if it was either my mistreatment or Acer computers are just sorta crap, it started to break down, got filled to the brim with dust (thats sorta my fault) and was slow as fuck
IZArc or bust.
i used to use winrar so much that when i actually got a license i was still instinctively reaching to close the "buy me" popup despite it not being there anymore
WinRAR and 7-Zip? Bah, WinZip is clearly superior to them both. /s [img]http://www.appsforpcmero.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/winzip.png[/img]
my issue with 7zip is the "not implemented" error i sometimes get, yet i know no one else who actually encounters this issue for themselves
[QUOTE=NightmareX91;51949444]my issue with 7zip is the "not implemented" error i sometimes get, yet i know no one else who actually encounters this issue for themselves[/QUOTE] I've seen that error. I don't know what it is. Or why it happens. Or which gypsy curse is inflicting it upon me. It just stops every now and then to let me open things. 7-Zip is great, but it does suffer the standard FOSS problems of having a fairly ugly (but totally functional) UI and awful UX due to error messages being largely nonsense.
I've had a number of people try to get me onto the 7zip train and they cite all of its objectively superior qualities over winrar. But I just can't stop using winrar, I'm a winrar boy.
[QUOTE=Hamaflavian;51949744]I've had a number of people try to get me onto the 7zip train and they cite all of its objectively superior qualities over winrar. But I just can't stop using winrar, I'm a winrar boy.[/QUOTE] 7zip is an objectively better program that does a lot more than WinRAR, but I'm never going to use any of those features and WinRAR has a better interface. So I use WinRAR.
7Zip here too, but I got so used to WinRAR that I left it as a "just in case" software, no use but I still have it there. WinRAR still is a good option despite all these years. If someone wants to buy it because you want to support a software you like you are excused. In the other hand, now if you are downloading a pirated full version WinRAR... :v: [QUOTE=redBadger;51947181]Once I discovered 7Zip I never looked back. Though WinRar will always hold a special place in my nostalgia heart.[/QUOTE] I have the same feeling towards the default text editor. I replaced it for Notepad++, but I still think with the default one.
I've used WinRar for years until I saw that 7Zip was actually a thing (since I honestly felt a little guilty to keep using WinRar despite going over that "trial" period) Sure the UI is horrible, but I 90% use the right click context menu and that's simple enough for making zipped folders, unzipping, whatever. Also I think there was some sort of security vulnerability in older versions of WinRar, so some of you should hop on 7Zip anyway.
[QUOTE=cartman300;51947219]7zip is freeware and open source, with the reference SDK implementation in multiple programming languages (public domain). It's faster compared to winrar. Supported formats for 7zip - 7z - XZ - BZIP2 - GZIP - TAR - ZIP - WIM - AR - ARJ - CAB - CHM - CPIO - CramFS - DMG - EXT - FAT - GPT - HFS - IHEX - ISO - LZH - LZMA - MBR - MSI - NSIS - NTFS - QCOW2 - RAR - RPM - SquashFS - UDF - UEFI - VDI - VHD - VMDK - WIM - XAR - Z Supported formats for winrar - RAR - ZIP - CAB - ARJ - LZH - TAR - GZ - BZ2 - ACE - UUE - JAR - ISO - 7Z - XZ - Z[/QUOTE] unless you're some kind of elite hacker, I doubt you would even use a majority of the formats 7zip supports.
[QUOTE=MightyLOLZOR;51950515]unless you're some kind of elite hacker, I doubt you would even use a majority of the formats 7zip supports.[/QUOTE] I was about to say, I feel like a total casual user because I only encounter zips and rars, maybe the odd 7z once in a while.
[QUOTE=MightyLOLZOR;51950515]unless you're some kind of elite hacker, I doubt you would even use a majority of the formats 7zip supports.[/QUOTE] If you work with virtual machines, it will certainly come in handy that you can extract VHD files (or any other filesystem for that matter) Also if you do linux stuff.
Similarly, Photoshop doesn't go after individuals who pirate the software since companies will have to pay for it anyway.
[QUOTE=Talishmar;51952618]Similarly, Photoshop doesn't go after individuals who pirate the software since companies will have to pay for it anyway.[/QUOTE] They do if you use it for commercial purposes though. But for non-commercial use I've never heard of them targeting stuff like that.
[QUOTE=cartman300;51947219]7zip is freeware and open source, with the reference SDK implementation in multiple programming languages (public domain). It's faster compared to winrar. Supported formats for 7zip - 7z - XZ - BZIP2 - GZIP - TAR - ZIP - WIM - AR - ARJ - CAB - CHM - CPIO - CramFS - DMG - EXT - FAT - GPT - HFS - IHEX - ISO - LZH - LZMA - MBR - MSI - NSIS - NTFS - QCOW2 - RAR - RPM - SquashFS - UDF - UEFI - VDI - VHD - VMDK - WIM - XAR - Z Supported formats for winrar - RAR - ZIP - CAB - ARJ - LZH - TAR - GZ - BZ2 - ACE - UUE - JAR - ISO - 7Z - XZ - Z[/QUOTE] All I need the program to do is open .7z, .zip, .rar archives. WinRaR is more than capable of that.
He mentions that free users "keeps the software in use" by giving it downloads and such, but I think an important factor he didn't comment on is that it it keeps the RAR [I]format[/I] in use - iirc, file explorer doesn't support it, and what happens when you search for "RAR" on google? WinRAR pops up. It isn't immediately apparent for the novice user that 7-Zip might also support this format, whereas WinRAR has it in the name itself.
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