[QUOTE=Gmod4ever;52290013]
I think what this video is trying to say is that "we" are responsible for propagating this cynical culture of young men, where "we" refers to the general demographic of people - those who make fun of socially awkward people, like the "friend" who breaks in and records the guy masturbating at the very beginning of the video.
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then the video really fucked up by doing the same thing
[QUOTE=Rusty100;52290025]then the video really fucked up by doing the same thing[/QUOTE]
Honestly, I don't think it makes fun of [b]him[/b] at all.
I can't speak for anyone else, but I just felt really bad for the guy throughout the entire thing. Which I think was the point.
[QUOTE=Rusty100;52290025]then the video really fucked up by doing the same thing[/QUOTE]
I think the way it just turns straight up black and white in the last 2 minutes is indicative that it isn't even trying to do that and the douchebag friends are filler and reaffirming the videos negative outlooks about men
[editline]30th May 2017[/editline]
[QUOTE=Gmod4ever;52290027]Honestly, I don't think it makes fun of [b]him[/b] at all.
I can't speak for anyone else, but I just felt really bad for the guy throughout the entire thing. Which I think was the point.[/QUOTE]
I dont know how you couldn't figure out its mocking when he bumped into her and immediately posted "she wants it"
[QUOTE=Gmod4ever;52290013]I [B]think[/B] the video is actually about the cycle of hate that a lot of young men go through today.
It took watching the video a few times (which was extremely painful to do, :vs:), but I think the video is [B]actually[/B] about everyone [B]else[/B]. It starts innocently enough, with a socially awkward young man who doesn't really "fit" with the alpha male archetype. He's lonely, awkward around women, and ultimately, lost. That's something a [B]lot[/B] of people go through.
So where does he turn? Not to friends, who are shown making fun of his awkwardness and insecurity, but to the Internet, where he is met with a wall of cynicism. At first, he mostly ignores the cynicism, and tries to make the best out of life. But no matter what he does, things go wrong for him, driving him back to the Internet and that wall of cynicism again and again, until he eventually breaks and he himself becomes a cynic - just another "LULZ" in the wall of "LULZ" that are responding to innocent, awkward, lost young men looking for direction, like he himself was once met with.
I think what this video is trying to say is that "we" are responsible for propagating this cynical culture of young men, where "we" refers to the general demographic of people - those who make fun of socially awkward people, like the "friend" who breaks in and records the guy masturbating at the very beginning of the video.
The video just failed to really clearly set up that is what it was going for.[/QUOTE]
That's a good analysis and probably what they were trying to go for, but wow they really botched the execution then. They should have set up the protagonist as a nice person on the internet as well as in real life, then when he's asking for advice on the site, he should be responded with negative /r9k/-esque responses that lead him to the same ending that the video has. That would actually give him the downward character arc from genuinely nice person to /r9k/ robot
[QUOTE=Gmod4ever;52290013]I [b]think[/b] the video is actually about the cycle of hate that a lot of young men go through today.
It took watching the video a few times (which was extremely painful to do, :vs:), but I think the video is [b]actually[/b] about everyone [b]else[/b]. It starts innocently enough, with a socially awkward young man who doesn't really "fit" with the alpha male archetype. He's lonely, awkward around women, and ultimately, lost. That's something a [b]lot[/b] of people go through.
So where does he turn? Not to friends, who are shown making fun of his awkwardness and insecurity, but to the Internet, where he is met with a wall of cynicism. At first, he mostly ignores the cynicism, and tries to make the best out of life. But no matter what he does, things go wrong for him, driving him back to the Internet and that wall of cynicism again and again, until he eventually breaks and he himself becomes a cynic - just another "LULZ" in the wall of "LULZ" that are responding to innocent, awkward, lost young men looking for direction, like he himself was once met with.
I think what this video is trying to say is that "we" are responsible for propagating this cynical culture of young men, where "we" refers to the general demographic of people - those who make fun of socially awkward people, like the "friend" who breaks in and records the guy masturbating at the very beginning of the video.
The video just failed to really clearly set up that is what it was going for.[/QUOTE]
I myself was questioning the message/call to action of this video, wondering... what it meant, and why this is should exist. But it all makes sense with that as a message.
If only the video showed him taking a second shot by talking to the person he can most trust and actually evolving out of being cynical and regressive, then it might be a good video, if not great. Even the title could start to have a double meaning, like "you can pass judgement on someone calling him a beta male BUT everyone can learn to be a better person if not just to help themselves".
the beginning of the video makes a joke out of his autism and the description for the video is just
LULZLULZLULZLULZLULZLULZLULZLULZLULZLULZLULZLULZLULZLULZLULZLULZLULZLULZLULZLULZLULZLULZ
[editline]30th May 2017[/editline]
the website's credits for the writers and such are telling as well
[QUOTE=Yogkog;52290056]That's a good analysis and probably what they were trying to go for, but wow they really botched the execution then. They should have set up the protagonist as a nice person on the internet as well as in real life, then when he's asking for advice on the site, he should be responded with negative /r9k/-esque responses that lead him to the same ending that the video has. That would actually give him the downward character arc from genuinely nice person to /r9k/ robot[/QUOTE]
Like I said, it failed to clearly set itself up.
The video should have taken more time to establish itself. I think what would have helped it a lot is if included something like these following scenes:
1.) Himself and a group of guy friends hanging out and having a good time, maybe playing some split-screen on a console. Then, one of the friends asks if he asked out X, to which he responds with a false facade of being fine, asking "what do you mean?", to which another friend points out that "it's obvious you like her, just ask her out". From there, he gets a bit flustered about it, trying to make up excuses and distract with the game, at which point the friends finally just dismiss his anxiety with something like "whatever, dude, your loss".
2.) Him eating dinner with his parents, maybe a brother or sister, too, and while they're just quietly eating, the mom springs the question of "So, have you been dating anyone lately?" at which point the guy deflects and tries to make excuses again, before the father/sister/brother just laugh and make a joke about him needing to "man up" and get a girlfriend, or something.
I think the video launched too quickly into the Internet angle, and should have been more clear in demonstrating that he had nowhere else to turn to - both his friends and his family make fun of his anxiety and social awkwardness, and he doesn't feel comfortable talking to them.
I think that would have done the video wonders, if it is indeed trying to say what I think it is trying to say.
[editline]30th May 2017[/editline]
[QUOTE=VenomousBeetle;52290069]the beginning of the video makes a joke out of his autism and the description for the video is just
LULZLULZLULZLULZLULZLULZLULZLULZLULZLULZLULZLULZLULZLULZLULZLULZLULZLULZLULZLULZLULZLULZ
[editline]30th May 2017[/editline]
the website's credits for the writers and such are telling as well[/QUOTE]
The video description is literally the end of the video, where he's just become another armchair cynic, responding to another person's request for advice with "LULZ", just like everyone else.
I was at first offended by that video description, too. And then I actually watched the video.
Similarly, I can't comment on the writers, because I don't know anything about them and don't intend to look into it. I am judging the video on its own merits.
And with the context of everything else, I am pretty certain that was either him making fun of his own awkwardness by playing it off as "lol I'm so autistic" (which itself is a part of the "cycle of hate" I think the video is about), [b]or[/b] it's someone else calling him autistic online, as the first crash of the incessant waves of cynicism he is brought against.
BuzzFeed needs to make a YouTube playlist called "Why Being a Man is a Bad, Shameful Thing" so I don't have to pore through all of their videos when I need my daily guilt trip.
Yeah I saw the part at the end with lulz plastered over the screen it doesnt change that the description still says nothing but lulz repeatedly
[editline]30th May 2017[/editline]
I watched the video before making any judgments and I didn't have anything negative to say until about 5 minutes in
its grasping at straws trying to justify a crap video
[QUOTE=VenomousBeetle;52290134]Yeah I saw the part at the end with lulz plastered over the screen it doesnt change that the description still says nothing but lulz repeatedly
[editline]30th May 2017[/editline]
I watched the video before making any judgments and I didn't have anything negative to say until about 5 minutes in
its grasping at straws trying to justify a crap video[/QUOTE]
what exactly do you think it means, then? Buzzfeed doesn't seem to me like they would use "lulz" to describe something they think is funny.
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while we're at it, I'm fairly certain that when he replies "mucho autismo" he's being ironic about his awkwardness and not literally saying he's autistic. It's like a lot of the shit in the video: it's cringey because a channer wouldn't word it like that, but channers joke about autism all the time.
[QUOTE=Yogkog;52289958]I'm really confused as to what the video's even trying to convey
Is it literally just making fun of socially awkward men?[/QUOTE]
I got the impression that it's commenting how some men become "redpilled". Here's my interpretation of the video:
The video starts with an awkward person who relies on anonymous internet people (4chan) for life advice. He tries scoring some pussy by following advice by meeting women online, but ends up chickening out at the last minute. By complete chance, he wounds up meeting a girl in person after saving her. He takes her on a date, but messes up and the date becomes awkward. He still believes he has a chance, so he repeatedly tries to contact her for another date to no avail. After discovering that she's been ignoring him and hanging with "normies" at a club, he starts to believe that it's because women want "alpha males".
He wants to become more "alpha", so he goes online again for advice and gets told that women want money. This is when he starts to fix himself up and search for a job. He eventually finds one, but also ends up meeting a cute girl at his work. He posts about every benign interaction with her, and people online translate it as "she wants him." Since women apparently want men with money, he saves up money to buy an expensive watch to flaunt himself. After doing so, he awkwardly presents it to her, expecting that she'll begin to want him. Without having built a relationship, the girl is creeped out being given a $1200 watch for no reason and reports him. Being rejected again and told off by his supervisor, he sees no further reason to continue going to work.
He believes that he was trying to be a 'gentlemen', presenting his 'lady' a flashy gift, but thinks politically correct (PC) culture is what ruined it. This is when he starts to actively begin to hate women and see them as just things to fuck. He comments how women could take a nice dicking, or that they're not worthy things to fap to. It's at this point he's learned the "truth" about women, and how the game is rigged against guys like him. When another innocent guy asks on how to get laid, he's becomes another voice in the sea of men who've been "redpilled" on the "truth".
It's not trying to make fun of socially awkward people, but rather demonstrate how they become surrounded by other rejected men and grow a hatred of women. They blame the world for their problems instead of themselves. I've personally seen people who act this way, and have even straddled on that line myself too. It's a dangerous trap to fall into, and being surrounded with people with similar experiences breeds a culture of it. The only part I'm unsure of is, are his friends; I'm not sure how they play into it.
I think some of you guys are over analyzing this video.
This is not some network that is known for making deep or serious videos, or good comedy. The only thing that's keeping BuzzShit alive at this point is creating dumb controversy to get attention.
BuzzFeed is shit and will therefore only produce shit, it's pretty simple.
I don't think the point of the video was to make fun of awkward guys, but it was still most definitely a crap video
[QUOTE=1STrandomman;52290161]
while we're at it, I'm fairly certain that when he replies "mucho autismo" he's being ironic about his awkwardness and not literally saying he's autistic. It's like a lot of the shit in the video: it's cringey because a channer wouldn't word it like that, but channers joke about autism all the time.[/QUOTE]
Just a few years ago, it was normal and ok to joke about autism even on Facepunch.
A few years earlier, it was also ok for everyone to call eachother fags.
Times change.
"LULZ" "beta 4 life"
Jesus fuck dude
Nice try Buzzfeed.
I am totally not like that guy. :v:
[QUOTE=Gorgus;52290235]I think some of you guys are over analyzing this video.
This is not some network that is known for making deep or serious videos, or good comedy. The only thing that's keeping BuzzShit alive at this point, is creating dumb controversy to get attention.
BuzzFeed is shit and will therefore only produce shit, it's pretty simple.[/QUOTE]
I actually like some of Buzzfeed's series that they have going on. My family loves the Unsolved series, and I found the cheap vs. expensive videos pretty entertaining too.
[QUOTE=Tudd;52290328]Nice try Buzzfeed.
I am totally not like that guy. :v:[/QUOTE]
I am. :(
I don't really understand why you are quite upset about it, was I the only one who found the video fine? Did everyone suddenly think "Buzzfeed!!!" and stopped bothering?
I didn't even see any "making fun of xxx" in this short vid. It was simply depicting what and how socially awkward and insecure men go through.
And quite a few stuff is really accurate.
Am I the only one who actually kind of liked the video? The only thing I didn't like was the seemingly out of nowhere barrage of "lulz" at the end. It tells a nice little story about a persons life which everyone can relate to atleast somewhat. I think people are reading way too much into it. The way I saw it the video was about gaining perspective and telling a story, not ridiculing or humiliating people like the person in the video as some comments (especially on youtube) seem to think. I can't help but to feel like if the video was released 5 years ago and not by buzzfeed it would have been praised rather than hated.
Apart from the r9k women hate part, this is pretty much true for anyone who didn't pick up the mindset it takes to live a life where "getting laid" is a bonus.
People aren't very helpful to those who didn't get natural knack for social skills. Paired with a bias for short term goals, they don't get to see the bigger picture and just give it all up if something doesn't work out for them. Being this shortsighted, they don't see their own flaws and just continue to waste their life with whatever they are comfortable with.
The dude in the video couldn't learn what's right or wrong, where he was wrong and how he could improve. For example @1:33 he doesn't seem to give a fuck about the girl's suggestion and the date ended up bad. He doesn't see it ending bad, and it didn't help that the girl didn't tell him the truth (so that he and she don't really feel bad about it and just think about it as a friendly meeting). His friends had the perspective of being successful and as such couldn't bother with how he fucked up, and the internet community of echo chamber's perspective doesn't help here too.
A clever person learns from a dumb person's mistakes. On this scale you can chalk him up as being lost. He has the potential, even got a job and bought an expensive jewellery, yet he doesn't have the social skills, and he is left on his own to improve those skills. He doesn't have anyone who he can lean onto for some help other than the cynical internet and as such he doesn't get to see whether really it's him or the world that's wrong.
The situation isn't that monochrome, but you can see that without good help or assistance from his early years of life, he ended up as such.
Only time will tell if he grows a pair and realizes what he needs to do, but until then, it just hurts everyone as a whole.
Didn't Buzzfeed build their entire foundation on clickbait?
A video so stupid and also mean towards mental health that I think somehow it should be given an immediate honorary Golden Raspberry award.
[QUOTE=ichiman94;52290891] Only time will tell if he grows a pair and realizes what he needs to do, but until then, it just hurts everyone as a whole.[/QUOTE] So that kind of guy just needs to "man up" and figure out what to do? How are they supposed to do that without help from others?
[QUOTE=Spleet;52290610]I am. :([/QUOTE]
Dude you're still way better of a human being than the heartless fucks over at buzzfeed.
[QUOTE=Episode;52291223]So that kind of guy just needs to "man up" and figure out what to do? How are they supposed to do that without help from others?[/QUOTE]
Clearly not as evidenced by the rest of their post. It seemed to me like they were saying that having people to rely on and confide in, as well as being honest and open with not only others but yourself, is what's really important in developing strong social skills. The problem is that people confide in anonymous echo-chambers that are useless in that regard and only serve to put people on uncomfortable paths, as evidenced by the video.
[QUOTE=Episode;52291223]So that kind of guy just needs to "man up" and figure out what to do? What the fuck[/QUOTE]
It's not what all I really think. Perhaps I wasn't clear enough with my broken english, but if you've read my post then you would know what's up.
Edit:
Duck M.'s post above me summarized it better than I could do.
[QUOTE=Genericenemy;52291206]A video so stupid and also mean towards mental health that I think somehow it should be given an immediate honorary Golden Raspberry award.[/QUOTE]
Was it really that mean and spiteful, though? It seemed less like they were making fun of him and more of just telling his story in an almost sympathetic manner.
My only criticism of this video is that while it does point out some of these societal problems, it fails to offer solutions. Seeing this guy engage in healthy behaviors and find avenues to improving himself could've been much more fruitful for the purposes that I think they're trying to achieve in this video.
[QUOTE=Duck M.;52291250]Was it really that mean and spiteful, though? It seemed less like they were making fun of him and more of just telling his story in an almost sympathetic manner.
My only criticism of this video is that while it does point out some of these societal problems, it fails to offer solutions. Seeing this guy engage in healthy behaviors and find avenues to improving himself could've been much more fruitful for the purposes that I think they're trying to achieve in this video.[/QUOTE]
It's literally just shitting on white males who have anxiety/ social disorders.
Instead of being inclusive and trying to help them, like they try to help every other marginalized group, they instead marginalize this group themselves, on purpose.
We all knew already that buzzfeed is just another one of the white male hating groups and the sooner they fuck off forever the better.
[QUOTE=Duck M.;52291250]Was it really that mean and spiteful, though? It seemed less like they were making fun of him and more of just telling his story in an almost sympathetic manner.
My only criticism of this video is that while it does point out some of these societal problems, it fails to offer solutions. Seeing this guy engage in healthy behaviors and find avenues to improving himself could've been much more fruitful for the purposes that I think they're trying to achieve in this video.[/QUOTE]
Its stereotyping and only seeks to further ostracise mentally disabled people further from society. They make people with autism look like fucking weirdos and laugh along.
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