[QUOTE=VeniVidiVici74;26576489]I actually care alot about civics, mainly because it is very complex and built against the possibility of a monarchy/dictatorship. It is actually a very cool system of checks and balances.[/QUOTE]
I'm talking about the [b]average[/b] American. A large number of us can't even locate the US on a world map.
I am NOT kidding. :colbert:
[QUOTE=CabooseRvB;26576479]People do not become brainwashed, it's just the media dumbs everybody down.[/QUOTE]
Truthful yes; but does it sometimes tell the truth? Like I was watching fox 2 news one morning where this guy I believe he's from the movie get him to the greek. The guy explains what he's doing in the movie like the all seeing eye the rock music and the anchorman is just sitting there smiling. Like What the fuck SAY SOMETHING DUDE YOU KNOW ITS WRONG. But that's just how the news works.
[QUOTE=Copy_Cat;26576550]Truthful yes; but does it sometimes tell the truth? Like I was watching fox 2 news one morning where this guy I believe he's from the movie get him to the greek. The guy explains what he's doing in the movie like the all seeing eye the rock music and the anchorman is just sitting there smiling. Like What the fuck SAY SOMETHING DUDE YOU KNOW ITS WRONG. But that's just how the news works.[/QUOTE]
Why were you watching Fox News?
[QUOTE=Copy_Cat;26576550]Truthful yes; but does it sometimes tell the truth? Like I was watching fox 2 news one morning where this guy I believe he's from the movie get him to the greek. The guy explains what he's doing in the movie like the all seeing eye the rock music and the anchorman is just sitting there smiling. Like What the fuck SAY SOMETHING DUDE YOU KNOW ITS WRONG. But that's just how the news works.[/QUOTE]
Then change the channel. It's that easy in this country.
[QUOTE=ExplodingGuy;26576537]So, the methods you supposedly proclaim that are supposed to have freedom, are just tools in some huge plan to control the masses.
Or, coherently, our freedoms are being restricted by our freedoms?[/QUOTE]
There is no stupid world domination plot to control the masses of the people.
To put it very simple, the Founding Fathers [b]saw the people as retards[/b] and were heavily aware of this. They wanted to [b]restrict[/b] the voice of the people and by doing so, they created a system of government in where the 'power of the people' becomes heavily diluted when it comes to deciding on legislative issues.
[QUOTE=Psychokitten;26576544]I'm talking about the [b]average[/b] American. A large number of us can't even locate the US on a world map.
I am NOT kidding.[/QUOTE]
Confirming this its been proven - people are fucking morons
[QUOTE=Psychokitten;26576564]Why were you watching Fox News?[/QUOTE]
My mom watches that channel a lot and it was on since last night I had went to bed. Woke up the next morning and I was just watching it because I see that now they only show certain parts once when it involves the NWO. I believe it was about a one month ago that the IRS will not be sending out the tax forms any more.
Also about 4 weeks ago the news only should it once about this guy wanting to form a militia group and one of his neighbors thought he was crazy. Never showed it again...
[QUOTE=Psychokitten;26576544]I'm talking about the [b]average[/b] American. A large number of us can't even locate the US on a world map.
I am NOT kidding. :colbert:[/QUOTE]
You do realize that from the youtube videos/news segments they only air the stupid people? Why would they air the smart people? That's boring. I'm also pretty aware that if there is a camera pointing at me, I would do a stupid thing just so that I can see myself on TV later in the night.
[QUOTE=Psychokitten;26576544]I'm talking about the [b]average[/b] American. A large number of us can't even locate the US on a world map.
I am NOT kidding. :colbert:[/QUOTE]
Got proof of this? I've seen it spewed out all over a whole bunch of different forums, but never seen a source or anything.
I honestly don't understand having a party based system at all.
[QUOTE=DanTehMan;26576805]I honestly don't understand having a party based system at all.[/QUOTE]
Pure democracy, as shown in post-revolution France, has serious flaws associated with mob violence. Monarchy, well, it all depends on the ruler in question. If the guy is vicious, it lets him commit some really nasty atrocities. The writers of the constitution compromised by using a modified version of the system used by pre-empirical Rome. The Party system, as far as I can tell, is not official, per se, but a resulting effect of the system we use.
It's still better than getting drawn and quartered because you didn't think His Majesty's new robe wasn't absolutely splendid. :colbert:
Our president is black.
[QUOTE=Sottalytober;26576460]Founding Fathers would probably cry if they saw the US's current political state.[/QUOTE]
Many of the founding fathers were just as political against each other as we are today. John Adams even silenced the press.
[QUOTE=DanTehMan;26576805]I honestly don't understand having a party based system at all.[/QUOTE]
Because people will always have political differences. George Washington tried having no party, but then it created factions in his own adminstration, which worsened things.
It used to be the republicans that were the problem. Now, it is still them, but Obama is just a yes man to their stupid ideas.
:canada:
[QUOTE=Psychokitten;26575858]It's funny because if you're American, you probably care even less than people who aren't American.[/QUOTE]
(If this was a thread about Germany's government)
[QUOTE=Psychokitten;26575858]It's funny because if you're [b]German[/b], you probably care even less than people who aren't [b]German[/b].[/QUOTE]
If you grow up hearing about your own government all the time you naturally start to care less, nationality is irrelevant.
[QUOTE=Sottalytober;26576460]Founding Fathers would probably cry if they saw the US's current political state.[/QUOTE]
George Washington actually thought that a party system would end up corrupting the government. I'm sure if he saw the US now, we'd all get a [b]"I told you so!"[/b] from him.
[QUOTE=Dr_Jones;26579113](If this was a thread about Germany's government)
If you grow up hearing about your own government all the time you naturally start to care less, nationality is irrelevant.[/QUOTE]
It dosn't help that the public school system in America is crap.
[QUOTE=Psychokitten;26576862]Pure democracy, as shown in post-revolution France, has serious flaws associated with mob violence. Monarchy, well, it all depends on the ruler in question. If the guy is vicious, it lets him commit some really nasty atrocities. The writers of the constitution compromised by using a modified version of the system used by pre-empirical Rome. The Party system, as far as I can tell, is not official, per se, but a resulting effect of the system we use.
It's still better than getting drawn and quartered because you didn't think His Majesty's new robe wasn't absolutely splendid. :colbert:[/QUOTE]
I meant I didn't understand having a party based system versus having a purely democratic based system. I'd never even consider a monarchy. I do need to do more research on the effects of a purely democratic society, though.
[QUOTE=DanTehMan;26579449]I do need to do more research on the effects of a purely democratic society, though.[/QUOTE]
Three words: Mass Public Executions
[QUOTE=CabooseRvB;26576568]Then change the channel. It's that easy in this country.
There is no stupid world domination plot to control the masses of the people.
To put it very simple, the Founding Fathers [b]saw the people as retards[/b] and were heavily aware of this. They wanted to [b]restrict[/b] the voice of the people and by doing so, they created a system of government in where the 'power of the people' becomes heavily diluted when it comes to deciding on legislative issues.[/QUOTE]
If we let them that is. They can't have a new world order unless we vote into right?
Oh wait we already did Patroit Act, oh wait Ehanced ID's nobody bitched about it.
[QUOTE=matthall765;26577458]It used to be the republicans that were the problem. Now, it is still them, but Obama is just a yes man to their stupid ideas.
:canada:[/QUOTE]
Damned if he does, damned if he doesn't
[QUOTE=CabooseRvB;26575899][b]The United States Government is not a government by the people, for the people, from the people.[/b]
[b]It is a government in where representatives elected from the people and it is a government that acts on the interests of a controlling party.[/b]
Anyone who disagrees is a stupid populist.[/QUOTE]
Rated Optimistic Because there is Some Truth to that.
But still, basically people have say on whose elected, what they want to do with their life, Etc.
I'm just a bill, yes I'm only a bill.
Sitting atop of capital hill.
And someday I'll became a Lawwww I hope and pray that I will,
But today I am still, just a bill. :smith:
[QUOTE=Copy_Cat;26585900]If we let them that is. They can't have a new world order unless we vote into right?
Oh wait we already did Patroit Act, oh wait Ehanced ID's nobody bitched about it.[/QUOTE]
What the Hell are you saying?
[QUOTE=;26575936]Obama.
And stuff.[/QUOTE]
Not just obama just think of all the presidents before him. All politicians are crooks enough said.
[QUOTE=ExplodingGuy;26576537]So, the methods you supposedly proclaim that are supposed to have freedom, are just tools in some huge plan to control the masses.
Or, coherently, our freedoms are being restricted by our freedoms?[/QUOTE]
Both, if you let your t.v. or videogame control you the way they want you to...you become a slave to that device. Just think about it for a second.
The Maury show = Women watching a show designed for them. BET = designed for black people who are dumb enough to watch it. Movies = Protrays bad images of what life should be perceieved by the viewers like the movie Bad Santa, Boyz in the Hood, or American History X. Media = For people who can't think for themselves/bashing videogames with sex in it but; won't bash movies with sex in it whether it be male or female.
Do you somewhat get where the idea is coming from.
Any government = liers and assholes.
[QUOTE=Sottalytober;26576460]Founding Fathers would probably cry if they saw the US's current political state.[/QUOTE]
Cry? More likely suicide.
[QUOTE=Zer0;26576048]I went to school to learn this stuff. I don't need a review.[/QUOTE]
then dont read it
[QUOTE=nick10510;26575802]The part about lobbyists is nothing but fact.[/QUOTE]
ROFL good one
Shows how much you know about American government, or any government for that matter.
[QUOTE=CabooseRvB;26591344]What the Hell are you saying?[/QUOTE]
I saying that when these things took place like the Patroit Act not many people protested about it because they where that scared and believed that bullshit lie that President Bush told the people.
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