[QUOTE=Leo Leonardo;42057253]So that whole post was pointless if all you were going to say is pretty much "some people are assholes"[/QUOTE]
You can diminish the value of a lot of posts by summarizing it like that. Some people are assholes about smoking, which is just as, if not moreso relevant, to the thread than the prohibition.
[QUOTE=Chaoswolf725;42036105]Well technically you're right, I was refering to things like cocaine and methamphetamine, which is more commonly thought of when you hear "hard drug".[/QUOTE]
It could be easier to quit cocaine or meth than cigarettes for some people.
Coke or meth are expensive and illegal, cigarettes are cheap, readily available everywhere, and legal.
Another problem is people thinking nicotine isn't a "hard" drug doesn't help reduce the number of smokers either.
[editline]3rd September 2013[/editline]
[QUOTE=LunaBadger;42038707]That's a bullshit graph. I highly doubt that weed is more harmful to people than acid or shrooms.[/QUOTE]
In a way they kind of are though.
A lot of people think that because weed is "harmless" that means you can smoke a shit ton all the time with no negative impact, which just isn't true, smoking anything isn't good for your lungs.
Acid and mushrooms are something that you can't really use to that extent. Not long into using them daily it would take so much to have any effect that it would be impossible. Not to mention, as already previously pointed out, these drugs have some well documented therapeutic applications.
[QUOTE=TehWhale;42047108]Except acid and shrooms are some of the most therapeutically safe drugs known to man.[/QUOTE]
Just because a drug is chemically safe doesn't mean the way it mentally affects you is even remotely safe
Weed isn't going to make you flip out and fall out a window
The markets in Asia are EXPLODING
also you shouldn't lump all tobacco products together with cigarettes.
Smokers don't just "die off", lol... you think smoking will kill you that fast?
I do not know 1 person who started smoking and stopped.
"Well, time to have a smoke."
"Hey dude, there's better ways to feel good than tobacco."
"Yeah, but tobacco's cheaper."
This how I see it at least, please correct me if you wish.
[QUOTE=Nitro836;42156593]"Well, time to have a smoke."
"Hey dude, there's better ways to feel good than tobacco."
"Yeah, but tobacco's cheaper."
This how I see it at least, please correct me if you wish.[/QUOTE]
If that's how you see it, then you're beyond correcting.
[QUOTE=Sinbues;42156747]If that's how you see it, then you're beyond correcting.[/QUOTE]
Majority of the people I see consuming them look like sour prunes tired of their life situation. There's the portion that use it in moderation for recreational purposes, sure, but I've yet to see any outside of parties or social gatherings.
Plus smokers smell fucking HORRIBLE.
Because some of us don't give a fuck about getting cancer or damaging ourselves.
We just smoke, 'cause fuck it. Gonna die regardless of what I do, might as well enjoy myself while I'm at it.
[QUOTE=Cureless;42163722]Because some of us don't give a fuck about getting cancer or damaging ourselves.
We just smoke, 'cause fuck it. Gonna die regardless of what I do, might as well enjoy myself while I'm at it.[/QUOTE]
Then there's that, apathy and total disregard, perhaps even denial of long term harm.
I've been smoking for about 3 years now, tried to quit before, it is not easy, one little thing will set you off and bam, next thing you know you are at 7-11 buying a pack.
[QUOTE=Nitro836;42156961]Majority of the people I see consuming them look like sour prunes tired of their life situation. There's the portion that use it in moderation for recreational purposes, sure, but I've yet to see any outside of parties or social gatherings.
Plus smokers smell fucking HORRIBLE.[/QUOTE]
people like you are obnoxious
[QUOTE=Lord of Ears;42174572]people like you are obnoxious[/QUOTE]
I don't even smoke and i agree with you.
[QUOTE=Lord of Ears;42174572]people like you are obnoxious[/QUOTE]
At least I don't smell rotten.
[QUOTE=Nitro836;42175419]At least I don't smell rotten.[/QUOTE]
You just proved his point. Gj.
[QUOTE=The Aussie;42175437]You just proved his point. Gj.[/QUOTE]
Please please please please PLEASE refute my points, I want to genuinely know why people are FOR tobacco. It's hard for me to change my opinion if someone doesn't thoroughly prove it flawed.
Seriously though, why?
No, for REAL, why?
[QUOTE=thejjokerr;42175576]I'm not FOR tobacco, but I'm FOR freedom. I want to smoke, so let me? I'm well aware that it may cause harm to other people, hence why I smoke outside, in smoking lounges and nowhere near children. And I'm aware that it might cause cancer in my body. Then again there's a lot of stuff that can cause cancer these days, I don't want to be a person living my life in fear, always evading stuff that might give me cancer.
And I agree that smoking shouldn't be promoted in any way as it is proven quite harmful, but if people still want to smoke, let them.
Also why do you care how someone smells? I've been around enough fat nerds that don't smoke and smell like shit anyways.[/QUOTE]
I don't smoke, but i fully support what you say and your right to put whatever you want into your body.
[QUOTE=The Aussie;42175612]I don't smoke, but i fully support what you say and your right to put whatever you want into your body.[/QUOTE]
And also the right to withdraw from commenting on increased coughing, breathing problems, chronic bad taste in mouth, shrinking lung capacity and increasing amount of neuroticness in the absence of / withdrawal of tobacco?
You like suffering all that just for a quick endorphin hit?
Okay then.
[QUOTE=Nitro836;42175645]And also the right to withdraw from commenting on increased coughing, breathing problems, chronic bad taste in mouth, shrinking lung capacity and increasing amount of neuroticness in the absence of / withdrawal of tobacco?
You like suffering all that just for a quick endorphin hit?
Okay then.[/QUOTE]
Again, i don't smoke. I have none of those problems you've listed. I do not have a problem with people smoking, even around me in public at bus stops and such. If they are bothering me i can just ask politely for them to step a few to the right and it's all good. I don't see your problem.
Weed and hookah is okay, cigs are gross though.
[QUOTE=The Aussie;42175659]Again, i don't smoke. I have none of those problems you've listed. I do not have a problem with people smoking, even around me in public at bus stops and such. If they are bothering me i can just ask politely for them to step a few to the right and it's all good. I don't see your problem.[/QUOTE]
To be honest the only real problem I see is the smoke.
[QUOTE=Nitro836;42175799]To be honest the only real problem I see is the smoke.[/QUOTE]
I don't see it, just move away or ask politely. As long as your aren't an ass about it almost any smoker would be happy to accommodate.
[QUOTE=Nitro836;42175450]Please please please please PLEASE refute my points, I want to genuinely know why people are FOR tobacco. It's hard for me to change my opinion if someone doesn't thoroughly prove it flawed.
Seriously though, why?
No, for REAL, why?[/QUOTE]
Its fun, a time killer and a sweet after a diner, and i feel relaxed after a hard job as a mover when i grill one.
[QUOTE=The Aussie;42175833]I don't see it, just move away or ask politely. As long as your aren't an ass about it almost any smoker would be happy to accommodate.[/QUOTE]
Some regulation when it comes to public smoking is reasonable. Alot of people have health conditions and alot of people are assholes.
smoking is how nwo depopulate earth
[QUOTE=Antlerp;42203020]smoking is how nwo depopulate earth[/QUOTE]
yay , i'm a part of something
[QUOTE=Antlerp;42203020]smoking is how nwo depopulate earth[/QUOTE]
Does the hat fit alright for you mate?
People like me chain-smoke the fuck out of some Marlboro Blacks and Reds.
smoking is fun and it makes you look cool and makes u get more drunk
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