Fantastic Firearms Part 2 - General

[QUOTE=SBD;16193662]I know it wasn't very prolific, but could you do the AR-18?[/QUOTE] Agreed.

[QUOTE=SmallPenisMan;16220158]Go back to World At War. That thing doesn't meet any of the requirements for being a Fantastic Firearm.[/QUOTE] UGH Here's an even more common misconception: if it's a powerful gun in the video game, everyone who suggests it in real life must be a video game fag that doesn't know what he's talking about.

[QUOTE=mugofdoom;16214577]Awesome, I have one of those, great little pistol. I traded an Ipod for it. The shell casings have a tendency to bounce off your hand though.[/QUOTE] Whoever took you up on that is retarded

[QUOTE=mugofdoom;16214577]Awesome, I have one of those, great little pistol. I traded an Ipod for it. The shell casings have a tendency to bounce off your hand though.[/QUOTE] I remember you made a thread asking if you should go for it. :D The guy selling was asking like 100$ or something and everyone was going buybuybuybuybuybuybuybuy. [QUOTE=bumtown;16219369]I'm going to say it again since i seemed to be ignored last time M72 LAW[/QUOTE] Just because I didn't quote and answer you doesn't mean it's ignored. I'm looking into it. [QUOTE=UncleJimmema;16216795]Do the Remington Model 700 or The Winchester Model 70.[/QUOTE] Remington 700 and both of it's military variants are in the old thread. [QUOTE=BCell;16220031]There is one more weapon I would like to suggest. The PTRS[/QUOTE] Might look into that one, but no promises.

Is there anything on those shotguns or rifles that uses a cylinders for ammo like a revolver?

there is my grandfather has one i can't remember what it's called though [editline]06:16PM[/editline] i want to say it's a savage [editline]06:21PM[/editline] there is also this [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colt_revolving_rifle[/url]

Those rifles look badass.

[QUOTE=Karskin;16221478]Whoever took you up on that is retarded[/QUOTE] He was offering it for $100, so I just gave him my Ipod. [editline]03:30PM[/editline] [QUOTE=Bean-O;16221705]I remember you made a thread asking if you should go for it. :D The guy selling was asking like 100$ or something and everyone was going buybuybuybuybuybuybuybuy[/QUOTE] Yeah, I'm glad I got it, it's a really cool pistol. Still need to get some new grips and a new main spring though.

can you do the mark 19 grenade launcher please? I suggested this at the start of the thread a long time ago :)

[QUOTE=DualReaver;16225908]there is my grandfather has one i can't remember what it's called though [editline]06:16PM[/editline] i want to say it's a savage [editline]06:21PM[/editline] there is also this [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colt_revolving_rifle[/url][/QUOTE] I think Revolving Rifles were in the Weaboo Weaponry thread, though I may be mistaken.

[QUOTE=ParsonNathaniel;16205086]That video is a complete fabrication[/QUOTE] Why may I ask?

Bergmann MP-18. [img]http://world.guns.ru/smg/mp18-I-1.jpg[/img] Ever wonder what the very first practical SMG was? It should come as little surprise since you read the title that it is none other than the MP-18. This piece was designed by Theodor Bergmann in 1916 when he looked at the debate of pistol vs. rifle in close quarters (IE trench) combat. While the pistol offers a higher rate of fire and is easier to manipulate and reload the rifle can function as a club or pike, is more powerful and can be used for a quick pot shot at longer range. The design is a very strait-forward carbine-type (has a wooden rifle stock) open-bolt SMG. It originally fed from a strait 20 round magazine that fed from the side. But when it was pressed in service during WW1 the army demanded that it take Luger-pattern magazines. Since those are not double-stacked the only way to have a substantially-sized magazine of that pattern without it being to long was to adopt a winding drum system. But there was a problem with this approach. These "snail" mags were bulky, difficult to reload and unreliable. The only advantage they offered was that they held 32 rounds and if a gun can take those you could also use Luger magazines if you needed to. You could also hook up the 32 round magazine to a Luger but that is an impractical approach that increases the likelihood of jamming as well as making the gun bulky and difficult to hold. But it seemed that the snail mag was the only problem with the design. The MP-18 performed sterling service in WW1. Roughly 20,000 were manufactured and at least 10,000 used by the end of the war. It was incredibly effective in trench fighting and it pretty much invented the doctrine of urban warfare with compact automatic weapons that would resurface in places like Stalingrad and is still used today. Essentially the MP-18 is the genesis of the submachine gun and by proxy the tactics by which SMGs are used in warfare as well as the creation of the assault rifle. After the war, although the conditions of the armistice banned further production about another 15,000 were made. Since the armistice banned pistol magazines exceeding 8 rounds all of the snail mags were destroyed and existing MP-18s converted to the old 20 round box mags. The 15,000 new MP-18 used the same magazines as well. Germany mostly gave them to police agencies which made good use of them during the house-to-house counterinsurgency fights of the early 1920's revolutionary period. The effectiveness of this weapon eventually inspired the MP-40. But Germany was not alone in pursuing that which served them so well. Impressed with the overall concept Britain made the Lanchester SMG which served well into WW2 (mostly with the Navy). It is a direct copy. In fact the STEN smg is a simplified version of it. Austria made a copy too, as did the French. China made a variant called the Tsing Tao which was used against the Japanese which were wielding their own copy, the Type 100 in 8mm Nambu. It doesn't end there. Switzerland license-built a version called the SIG Bergmann 1920 in 9mm, 7.62 Mauser and the version they adopted in .30 Luger. The 9mm version was bought by Finland which in turn made the Suomi 31, that in turn inspired the PPD-40 which later evolved into the PPSH 41. In other words the only SMG used in WW2 that was [b]not[/b] directly based off the MP-18 was the Thompson. When you think of that it's really impressive. Here you have a gun that fathered an entire generation of children which spent the largest conflict in history fighting against themselves in playgrounds such as Berlin, Shanghai, Leningrad, Stalingrad, Budapest, Normandy, Anzio and it won against itself too. Even after all of that was over these kids kept popping up in hundreds of colonial conflicts all over the developing world before eventually becoming obsolete thanks to the assault rifle which is arguably the MP-18's grandson.

Cool article bro.

Has anyone copy pasted all of these articles into one big thing? So we could all print it out and then shove it into someones face next time they cream themselves over a desert eagle? Both the weeaboo and fantastic articles.

[QUOTE=uberdood15;16237797]Has anyone copy pasted all of these articles into one big thing? So we could all print it out and then shove it into someones face next time they cream themselves over a desert eagle? Both the weeaboo and fantastic articles.[/QUOTE] He puts most of them on the front page of the thread I though, the first ones are in the first page on the link to the original Fantastic Firearms thread.

How about the Sterling SMG? [editline]03:40PM[/editline] [QUOTE=STREWTH_99;16216466]Do an article on the Sterling SMG next Bean-O[/QUOTE] Great minds think alike but this is a coincidence

[QUOTE=uberdood15;16237797]Has anyone copy pasted all of these articles into one big thing? So we could all print it out and then shove it into someones face next time they cream themselves over a desert eagle? Both the weeaboo and fantastic articles.[/QUOTE] Every article in that thread has been moved at one point or another to the front page. But I'd be weary when using some of them because you have to keep in mind that: 1)Many were written before I know many of the things I know now. 2)Even now I don't know everything. I am constantly learning things and sometimes I find that which I stated earlier is wrong. 3)Some of the weapons really didn't deserve to be in that thread and were placed there for lack of something better to write about (scraping the bottom of the barrel) So I wouldn't say you should take everything I said in that last thred seriously down to the letter. That said I love to see idiots who proclaim that the XM8 and Deagle are "Teh gr8test wpn EAVAR" learn a thing or two.

[QUOTE=Bean-O;16241753]Every article in that thread has been moved at one point or another to the front page. But I'd be weary when using some of them because you have to keep in mind that: 1)Many were written before I know many of the things I know now. 2)Even now I don't know everything. I am constantly learning things and sometimes I find that which I stated earlier is wrong. 3)Some of the weapons really didn't deserve to be in that thread and were placed there for lack of something better to write about (scraping the bottom of the barrel) So I wouldn't say you should take everything I said in that last thred seriously down to the letter. That said I love to see idiots who proclaim that the XM8 and Deagle are "Teh gr8test wpn EAVAR" learn a thing or two.[/QUOTE] Well when it comes to the XM8, you can just show them this: [img]http://airbornecombatengineer.typepad.com/photos/satirehumor/xm8lv460ace.jpg[/img] [i]It's truly a lovely firearm, and augments the military's don't ask, don't tell and gender diversity policies.[/i]

[QUOTE=DrMortician;16242817]Well when it comes to the XM8, you can just show them this: [img]http://airbornecombatengineer.typepad.com/photos/satirehumor/xm8lv460ace.jpg[/img] [i]It's truly a lovely firearm, and augments the military's don't ask, don't tell and gender diversity policies.[/i][/QUOTE] Sweet Jesus what is that thing?

[QUOTE=esrande;16243640]Sweet Jesus what is that thing?[/QUOTE] A super soaker/fish gun with the internals of a g36. EDIT: Also Bean-o for you next article you should write about John Browning.

I would like to see Ruger MK III and Smith and Wesson 500 revolver.

-snip- wrong thread

[QUOTE=PrismatexV5;16208531]Does the Benelli M3 fit into the category of Fantastic Firearms? [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z5uHt4AwYb4[/media][/QUOTE] [IMG]http://i27.tinypic.com/2py0p08.jpg[/IMG] GOD FFFFUCKING DAAAAAAAMN

Have you written any articles on anti-material rifles? I'm not trying to be all ".50 CALL IS THE BEST SO HUGE DESTROYS TANKS!", I just want to see your view on those type of weapons. It would also be nice if you could do an article on one of the WW2 anti-material rifles. Have you done any of these yet?

[QUOTE=kirderf;16245412]Have you written any articles on anti-material rifles? I'm not trying to be all ".50 CALL IS THE BEST SO HUGE DESTROYS TANKS!", I just want to see your view on those type of weapons. It would also be nice if you could do an article on one of the WW2 anti-material rifles. Have you done any of these yet?[/QUOTE] He said he might look into the PTRS.

Hey Beano whats your opinion on the Bazooka? I'm surprised there hasn't been any mention about since it used to be the epitome of big and powerful weapons. How does it compare to other AT weapons at the time.

Is a bazooka a firearm?

[QUOTE=Sporkfire;16245586]Hey Beano whats your opinion on the Bazooka? I'm surprised there hasn't been any mention about since it used to be the epitome of big and powerful weapons. How does it compare to other AT weapons at the time.[/QUOTE] Like I said I mostly specialize in firearms so I don't know much about various rocket launchers but I can certainly look into it. Come to think of it coupled with the LAW and a couple other RPGs I could do a rocket week or something like that.

[QUOTE=Bean-O;16245818]Like I said I mostly specialize in firearms so I don't know much about various rocket launchers but I can certainly look into it. Come to think of it coupled with the LAW and a couple other RPGs I could do a rocket week or something like that.[/QUOTE] Or you could you an anti-armor week. Then you could also put in stuff like anti-material rifles, anti-tank mines (like [url=http://www.lssah.com/images/H3kgH3.5kg.jpg]this[/url]) and anti-tank grenades. Could be interesting.

[QUOTE=dcalde78;16245513]He said he might look into the PTRS.[/QUOTE] The British Boyes rifle wasn't bad either. :) The Germans used 2 different types too, but after 1941 they were converted to launch rifle grenades.