Fantastic Firearms Part 2 - General

[QUOTE=_Underlined_;16406085]What about the Barrett 98 Bravo Sniper Rifle? Will release this year and is said to be the best sniper rifle when it comes out. Images: (Kinda big) [img]http://www.98bravo.com/images/downloads/98B-Desktop03-1024x768.jpg[/img] [img]http://www.98bravo.com/images/sleek/Barrett-98B-28.jpg[/img] [img]http://www.98bravo.com/images/downloads/98B-Desktop02-1680x1050.jpg[/img] Quote from 98bravo.com[/QUOTE] That's so sexy. I want an AR15 based rifle in 338 Lapua

[QUOTE=PrismatexV6;16406099]It's not even out. How is it a Fantastic Firearm?[/QUOTE]Because its epic without even being out yet. [QUOTE=ksenior;16406487]That's so sexy. I want an AR15 based rifle in 338 Lapua[/QUOTE] Mmm...I agree.

i am wanking over that .338 holy shit

[QUOTE=_Underlined_;16406085]What about the Barrett 98 Bravo Sniper Rifle? Will release this year and is said to be the best sniper rifle when it comes out. Images: (Kinda big) Quote from 98bravo.com[/QUOTE] No. [editline]10:03PM[/editline] [QUOTE=_Underlined_;16406675]Because its epic without even being out yet. .[/QUOTE] No.

[QUOTE=Gubbinz96;16407594]No. [editline]10:03PM[/editline] No.[/QUOTE] Yes. Yes. See that? Hes fapping to it. Thats how epic it is.

[QUOTE=ksenior;16406487]That's so sexy. I want an AR15 based rifle in 338 Lapua[/QUOTE] That doesn't even remotely look like an AR-15.

[QUOTE=ksenior;16406487] I want an AR15 based rifle in 338 Lapua[/QUOTE] Why? It'd have to be side-fed. Not to mention the lower probably wouldn't hold up under the recoil for very long.

[QUOTE=_Underlined_;16407742]Yes. Yes. See that? Hes fapping to it. Thats how epic it is.[/QUOTE] Still No. Still No. And mega No. The only thing I like about that gun is the optics on it. They look mighty nifty. Rest of the gun is a waste of space to me.

[QUOTE=Gubbinz96;16407920]Still No. Still No. And mega No. The only thing I like about that gun is the optics on it. They look mighty nifty. Rest of the gun is a waste of space to me.[/QUOTE]It's going to be the best sniper rifle of 09, how is it a waste? They even have tests confirming that it is the best one right now, except its not being sold to the public right now.

[QUOTE=_Underlined_;16408104]It's going to be the best sniper rifle of 09, how is it a waste? They even have tests confirming that it is the best one right now, except its not being sold to the public right now.[/QUOTE] It has yet to see actual use with either the public, or the armed forces. Therefore, you can't legitimately tell if it is a Fantastic Firearm. I'd say the Chauchat was a Fantastic Firearm when the first examples were tested. But they turned out to be shit in the field, for whatever reasons.

[QUOTE=DrMortician;16407787]Why? It'd have to be side-fed. Not to mention the lower probably wouldn't hold up under the recoil for very long.[/QUOTE] Why would it have to be side fed? It would be like an SR25 but bigger [editline]04:33PM[/editline] [QUOTE=Thomas849;16407744]That doesn't even remotely look like an AR-15.[/QUOTE] I'm just saying I want a ar15 based rifle in .338 lapua

I want a ar15 based on .50 BMG. THINK OF THE RECIEVER

[QUOTE=Oecleus;16410533]I want a ar15 based on .50 BMG. THINK OF THE RECIEVER[/QUOTE] Sounds fun, but it would be extremely heavy. And unwieldy. It'd be huge.

You can get a .50 BMG upper for an AR15. [url]http://www.tactilite.com/[/url] Just one of many. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pTIVXwdodU[/media]

[QUOTE=_Underlined_;16406085]What about the Barrett 98 Bravo Sniper Rifle? Will release this year and is said to be the best sniper rifle when it comes out. [/QUOTE] No, don't bring weapons that haven't even been RELEASED, let alone PROVEN to be good into this thread.

[QUOTE=_Underlined_;16408104]It's going to be the best sniper rifle of 09, how is it a waste? They even have tests confirming that it is the best one right now, except its not being sold to the public right now.[/QUOTE] The articles in this thread are about weapons that have stood the test of time, and have good balance between firepower, ergonomics, practicality, etc. If it hasn't even been released, how will it have been tested to it's limits in the field?

[QUOTE=JoshuaC;16410810]You can get a .50 BMG upper for an AR15. [url]http://www.tactilite.com/[/url] Just one of many. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pTIVXwdodU[/media][/QUOTE] I'd kill for one of these, and a drum of SLAP rounds. [img]http://www.facepunch.com/fp_ratings.php?postid=16410854&rating=3[/img]

Esrande, you might want to check your local pistol ownership laws.

Would the .50 BMG gunk the shit out of the breech?

[QUOTE=Oecleus;16415855]Would the .50 BMG gunk the shit out of the breech?[/QUOTE] Probably, .50 BMG has a buttload of powder. [img]http://www.facepunch.com/fp_ratings.php?postid=15994827&rating=5[/img]

Hey! Bean-O you haven't done the MP-40 yet have you?

How about Snakecharmers? They're hilarious little guns and like ultimate in concealable weapons.:v:

One of the only things I can suggest right now is the AK-74M, currently adopted by the Russian Army, but I don't how how great the article would be. It's basically a modernization of the AKM/AK-47, so I guess that the articles would be similar too, unless Bean-o could dig something interesting up. You could also do the Vityaz SMG, it's based off the AKS-74U assault rifle. It does not have the impractical mag of the Bizon, and fires 9mm Luger, but looks like a smaller AK-74U.

[QUOTE=Oecleus;16410533]I want a ar15 based on .50 BMG. THINK OF THE RECIEVER[/QUOTE] Beowulf [editline]10:04PM[/editline] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0CrUARlmqso[/media]

[QUOTE=jgerm529;16416049]Hey! Bean-O you haven't done the MP-40 yet have you?[/QUOTE] My wish list: MP40 PPS Carl Gustav M/45 M9 Bazooka

[QUOTE=HarryLerman;16421681]Beowulf [editline]10:04PM[/editline] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0CrUARlmqso[/media][/QUOTE] Beowulf isn't even comparable to .50 BMG..

You could also do the FAMAE S.A.F.

What about the M3 SMG?

81)BOYS anti-tank rifle [img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/b/bb/Boys_Mk_I_AT_Rifle.jpg/800px-Boys_Mk_I_AT_Rifle.jpg[/img] Russia, while the largest user of anti-tank rifles wasn't the only one. Nor were they the first. Way back in 1937 the British developed a bolt-action .55 caliber rifle that fired from a removable 5-round magazine for that specific purpose. The bullet is fired is called .55 Boys or alternatively 13.9x99mmB. It was developed from the Browning M2's .50 caliber bullet. Because it is smaller than the Russian 14.7mm round which came later it wasn't as effective during WW2. Indeed, this weapon had many problems, some of them serious. Initially, the MK1 ammunition could only penetrate about 16mm of armor at 100 yards, good enough against the weak points of many tanks of the time. This weapon and ammunition first saw use during the Winter War when many were used by the Finns against relatively poorly-made Russian tanks. The Finns rather loved them because they did their job, but when they had to be pressed into service in the Second World War against German armor the limitations of the .55 caliber round became apparent. A new bullet of the same dimensions but with a tungsten core was developed, but it only added an extra 5mm to the overall penetration. Another problem that plagued the BOYS was simply the way it was put together, which was with many screws (you don't want to have to use tools to dismantle ANY firearm) made of very soft metal that were twisted in way too tightly (meaning you could deform them very easily). This was a total nightmare to maintain. A MKII version was made but it mainly addressed problems with the bipod and muzzle brake. The third version was meant for airborne forces and it had a shorter barrel, resulting in not enough muzzle velocity for it to be useful against all but the weakest armor. But while it had these problems it wasn't useless. In the Pacific Theater the Commonwealth as well as the US Marines and even the Chinese used them to great effect against very small and thinly armored Japanese tanks. These rifles were nicknamed at least by the Americans as "Elephant Guns" due to the tremendous recoil and "Charlie the Bastard" by the Australian troops for the same reason. The Chinese also rechambered a few to .50BMG and experimented with using them against unarmored targets at incredibly long range, one of the reasons why the Americans tried the same with the PTRD in the Korean War since anti-tank rifle crews occasionally took potshots at unarmored targets during that conflict. Even during WW2 the BOYS was used for this purpose. They were used numerous times against aircraft and soft ground targets, sometimes even on vehicle mounts. But just like the PTRD and PTRS it was essentially obsolete by the time the war started. With the only thing these guns were effective against being either softer armor or completely unarmored targets they were replaced with the M2 in many positions which was simply better suited to the task. But during it's successful or arguably not-so-successful career 60,000 BOYS rifles helped beat back the Russians as well as the Japanese, it definitely influenced the creation of the PTRD and PTRS as well as the advent of the big-caliber sniper rifle even if during it's service life it was very rarely used for that purpose.

Awesome article! I remember seeing a video on youtube about that. It looked P cool.