[QUOTE=Penis Colada;16593062]What's a T44?[/QUOTE]
An M14.
Bean-O, are you American? I just have to know.
[QUOTE=wystan;16593893]Bean-O, are you American? I just have to know.[/QUOTE]
As of recently, yes.
[QUOTE=Bean-O;16594125]As of recently, yes.[/QUOTE]
Hoo-rah!
I just had to make sure you weren't no freedum hatin' commie.
Did we break the 1,000 post rule?
Or am I just dumb?
Max posts is 2000 now.
[QUOTE=wystan;16593893]Bean-O, are you American? I just have to know.[/QUOTE]
no he is robo nigerian
[QUOTE=Bean-O;16594125]As of recently, yes.[/QUOTE]
Where were you before?
Russian, from memory.
Well a Russian citizen.
I suggest the sterling machine gun for an article.
[QUOTE=Bean-O;16592982]88)AR-10 series
[img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4b/Ar-10.jpg[/img]
This isn't an M16 copy that has been scaled up to 7.62 NATO. At least it wasn't at first. In fact the AR-10 pre-dates the AR-15 which would become the M16 and all of its spiffy low-caliber variants.
The whole story starts with the M1 Garand. In the 1950's it was getting old and outdated due to the use of non-NATO ammunition and the questionable en-bloc clips so it was to be replaced. Thus the army put out a contract for a new semi and fully-automatic rifle in the new, lighter caliber. Enter Armalite, a skeleton-crew of 9 people headed by Eugene Stoner that designed something genuinely new. It didn't have a traditional rifle stock. Rather it had the pistol grip, upper-and-lower layout with pretty much all the characteristics we're familiar with seeing on the M16 series. The most notable differences being the materials that the stock and grips were made of, as well as a charging handle inside the carrying handle which more closely resembles that of the FAMAS.
But the real advantage was weight. For a 7.62 NATO battle rifle it only weighed in at roughly 8 pounds or so. This was due to extensive use of polymers in the grips as well as aluminum everywhere else. It worked great too, functioning quite reliably during testing in spite of the foibles inherent to the direct impingement system. It truly seemed as though it was about to beat the FAL and T44. But then disaster. During a torture test the barrel on one of the rifles failed and ruptured. Even if it was in the lead before, this major setback hurt it enough that the heavier T44 was adopted as the M14 instead.
Having lost this contract ArmaLite set upon developing newer and better things, selling the rights to produce this rifle to a Dutch company called AI (Artillerie Inrichtingen). Over the years this company managed to score sales of a couple thousand such rifles with Hollywood, Sudan and Portugal. Most were select-fire military versions although a couple semi-automatic civilian variants were made as well.
Throughout the late 50's and 60's this gun saw use in many conflict zones, particularly colonial scuffles in Africa. There it earned a reputation as en effective and more notably very light rifle. Those that managed to get their hands on them, praised them. But not that many did. Even if Portugal, Sudan, Cuba, Indonesia, Italy and Burma (back when it was Burma) bought them they only did so in limited numbers. In all only 10,000 such rifles were ever made by AI.
Well in that case why is it on the list if so few were made?
When the ArmaLite name was bought up by Mark Westrom in 1995 he brought new life into a brand which had essentially not designed or even built any guns since the 1970's. As well as starting production of various civilian 5.56 Ar-15s that the company is more well-known for he put the AR-10 back in production as well. This line of civilian rifles is still around today and more popular than ever. They are offered in both classic variations and setups which are more designed for the marksman.
But while ArmaLite holds the trademark for the AR-10, they aren't the only ones making them. There is the DPMS LR-308, the RRA LAR-8, OA-10, SR-25 and a million other .308 ARs that are essentially AR-15s scaled up to the bigger .308 NATO caliber.Therefore arguably, while ArmaLite fizzled out in the 1970's the AR-10 was never truly out of production since other gun companies kept making their own copies and variants of them from the moment that the patent expired.
It does seem to be in the nature of this short-lived enterprise. They designed many unique and interesting firearms (AR 10, 15, 7, 18, etc.) and left the actual widespread manufacturing of them to everyone else.[/QUOTE]
Minor thing for everyone to know, is that the SR-25 and the DPMS LR-308 use the original AR-10 design with stuff from the M16A2/A4. The ArmaLite AR-10 uses M14 style mags.
I wish I owned an SR25 :(
Sig 510 sturmgewehr 57
[QUOTE=Wittmann;16600280]Sig 510 sturmgewehr 57[/QUOTE]
Yeah, the 510 is arguably the best battle rifle ever made but it was very expensive and I'm not sure how popular it was.
I own an AR-10 :v:. It doesn't look much like the one in the picture though. That gun is my favorite to shoot at the range. People are plinking away with their pistols then I fire off the AR-10. Makes quite a bang.
That FAMAS-style charging handle (well it came before the FAMAS but that's what we're more familiar with) was only made by AI, even then not all of their AR-10s had them. Pretty much all the AR-10 remakes and the current ArmaLite version has the T-shaped handle.
So, Bean-O, what do you have to say about the Kitty Cornershot?
[QUOTE=Joxalot;16603206]So, Bean-O, what do you have to say about the Kitty Cornershot?[/QUOTE]
It is an attachment to a firearm than a firearm in and of itself. I can see the utility but it incorporates electronics which can be quite fragile, adds weight and that cat just makes it that much more visible. Seems to be a gimmick. Only time will tell if it is effective.
I was thinking... The cam/screen of the cornershot is just too vulnerable in a real combat/mission... It's a eletronic artifacts, probably not ready to a more severe weather
I would rather blindshot or use mirrors
[QUOTE=Joxalot;16603452]I was thinking... The cam/screen of the cornershot is just too vulnerable in a real combat/mission... It's a eletronic artifacts, probably not ready to a more severe weather
I would rather blindshot or use mirrors[/QUOTE]
Or a grenade.
Btw, does the screen turn both sides?
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[QUOTE=Oecleus;16603469]Or a grenade.[/QUOTE]
That too
What about the more modern grenade launchers? Like the HK GMG, The Mk. 19 or the AGS-17. If they're not portable enough then what about the M203 (if you haven't done it already), or the GP-25?
Where Japanese WW2 era weapons underpowered? Wasn't the Nambu pistol 8 mm and the Arisaka 6xsomething mm?
[QUOTE=Kman1;16603559]Where Japanese WW2 era weapons underpowered? Wasn't the Nambu pistol 8 mm and the Arisaka 6xsomething mm?[/QUOTE]
Some were, some weren't.
The 8mm Nambu is considered to be pretty weak, as far as battle rifle calibers go 6.somethingorother Arisaka is pretty weak too, but they were phasing that out for 7.7 Arisaka by the time WW2 started.
Bean-O, you should Hot link the list of guns on the OP. That way anyone can go read the article you did on each gun. It would be a lot of work. But I can do most of it.
[QUOTE=Bean-O;16602593]Yeah, the 510 is arguably the best battle rifle ever made but it was very expensive and I'm not sure how popular it was.[/QUOTE]
'Twas used by Switzerland, Bolivia and Chile, making it decently popular and with its reputation of being absurdly accurate I think it does deserve a place. Without the 510's reputation, where would the 540 and 550 series be?
[QUOTE=Bean-O;16605571]Some were, some weren't.
The 8mm Nambu is considered to be pretty weak, as far as battle rifle calibers go 6.somethingorother Arisaka is pretty weak too, but they were phasing that out for 7.7 Arisaka by the time WW2 started.[/QUOTE]
Oh, ok thanks Bean-o.
[QUOTE=redonkulous;16602788]I own an AR-10 :v:. It doesn't look much like the one in the picture though. That gun is my favorite to shoot at the range. People are plinking away with their pistols then I fire off the AR-10. Makes quite a bang.[/QUOTE]
Get a good muzzle brake and find a table in the middle of a bunch of shooters, then start shooting.
Doesn't get you a lot of friends.
[QUOTE=Hunt3r.j2;16608826]Get a good muzzle brake and find a table in the middle of a bunch of shooters, then start shooting.
Doesn't get you a lot of friends.[/QUOTE]
Depends on the barrel length. If he gets a carbine barrel, then there'd really be some fireworks.
I still doubt anything could have a more annoying muzzle blast than my bushmaster pistol. My .454 casull isn't even 1/4 as bad, before I got the 7.5" model I had a 2.5" model and the bushmaster was still worse than it.
[QUOTE=Hunt3r.j2;16608826]Get a good muzzle brake and find a table in the middle of a bunch of shooters, then start shooting.
Doesn't get you a lot of friends.[/QUOTE]
I usually find a seat in the middle of the range. Every once in a while somebody jumps out of surprise and fires off a shot right after I do. It makes me kind of worried that people that jumpy own firearms...
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