Fantastic Firearms Part 2 - General

Volcanic .41 pistol. Do it. I dare you. I DOUBLE DOG DARE YOU MOTHERFUCKER.

[QUOTE=evilweazel;17080056]Volcanic .41 pistol. Do it. I dare you. I DOUBLE DOG DARE YOU MOTHERFUCKER.[/QUOTE] yes yes

[QUOTE=Deadoon v.2;17077742]It is an AK-action and fires shotgun shells. It has been suggested at least 10 times already.[/QUOTE] It's actually not an AK action. It's really not even that similar. It's an entirely different weapon. Unless you're one of those people who think an SVD is just an AK that fires 54r. [editline]12:39PM[/editline] [QUOTE=Bean-O;17078632]It was mentioned in Weeaboo Weaponry as a contrast to the various magazine-fed shotguns listed there. By contrast I mean I spoke of the Saiga 12 as an example of a relatively practical design. Can it make it here on the list? I'm not sure since I don't know just how popular it is.[/QUOTE] As a saiga-12c, k, or a converted one it can make it on the list. You can confidently grab the stock and the barrel and do pushups on the magazine of the weapon. They're also very very light weight with low felt recoil, and rifle like trigger. Making them superior to about any other shotgun around. Provided you have enough magazines and you aren't using low-impulse ammunition, it's going to be the best thing ever. As they come imported to the US with a fucking retarded sporter stock, or these bojank pistol grip stocks (not a proper conversion)... Fuck no. They're horribly balanced. And they're insanely expensive now too, making it even less worth owning. Here's an example of the shitty ones: [img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v56/mtnman37879/MVC-035S.jpg[/img] [img]http://www.keepshooting.com/productimages/firearms/shotguns/saiga12gaugeshotgunbig.jpg[/img] The conversion I did for reference: [url]http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/7586/gunsf.jpg[/url]

[QUOTE=DrMortician;17084583]It's actually not an AK action. It's really not even that similar. It's an entirely different weapon. Unless you're one of those people who think an SVD is just an AK that fires 54r. [/QUOTE] I think otherwise, the Saiga and the ak-47 share many main traits. They do have differences, but they are largely similar. I wouldn't call them two entirely different guns because they aren't. The saiga is largely based off of the ak action. The saiga 12 practically is an ak action, just changed up for the 12 gauge shell.

[QUOTE=40kplayer;17078452]It's too early to be here, and from what has been said about it, the Saiga series belongs in the Weaboo Weaponry Thread if it isn't there already.[/QUOTE] You don't know much about Saigas then.

Wow Mort, those are some sexy guns (DAT AR15)

[QUOTE=Oecleus;17087665]I think otherwise, the Saiga and the ak-47 share many main traits. They do have differences, but they are largely similar. I wouldn't call them two entirely different guns because they aren't. The saiga is largely based off of the ak action. The saiga 12 practically is an ak action, just changed up for the 12 gauge shell.[/QUOTE] Since when does an AK47 use a puck for its gas system? I believe an AK47 uses a piston and not a puck. [editline]08:15PM[/editline] [QUOTE=Leon;17090068]Wow Mort, those are some sexy guns (DAT AR15)[/QUOTE] It gets better, all my magpul stuff finally got in so I took a group shot of EVERYTHING. [media]http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/9826/allgunsdrmortician.jpg[/media] Magpul only made me wait 4 damned months to tell me they aren't producing anything in that color anymore due to lack of demand, then offered me that stock which currently isn't being sold due to massive back orders. It's really nice though, all magpul stuff is.

[QUOTE=DrMortician;17092719]Since when does an AK47 use a puck for its gas system? I believe an AK47 uses a piston and not a puck.[/QUOTE] A couple of differences =/= completely unrelated gun

[QUOTE=DrMortician;17092719]Since when does an AK47 use a puck for its gas system? I believe an AK47 uses a piston and not a puck. [editline]08:15PM[/editline] It gets better, all my magpul stuff finally got in so I took a group shot of EVERYTHING. [media]http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/9826/allgunsdrmortician.jpg[/media] Magpul only made me wait 4 damned months to tell me they aren't producing anything in that color anymore due to lack of demand, then offered me that stock which currently isn't being sold due to massive back orders. It's really nice though, all magpul stuff is.[/QUOTE] I <3 magpul. Their stuff is awesome and for the most part isn't outrageously over priced

[QUOTE=UncleJimmema;17094322]I <3 magpul. Their stuff is awesome and for the most part isn't outrageously over priced[/QUOTE] In some cases it's very expensive, but in almost all of those cases the stuff is super innovative and nobody makes anything remotely comparable. Like the UBR stock. I wanted one for this build but couldn't swing $250. The new ACS stock is really cool too. UBR: [img]http://mooneysfirearms.com/ProductImages/magpul/MagpulUBR_350.jpg[/img] ACS: [img]http://www.aimsurplus.com/acatalog/mpmag370.jpg[/img]

I probably won't be able to add an article tonight since I'll be celebrating my brithday at my brother's house. I'll try to do one in the morning, besides which I should get into the habit of writing in the morning since that is when this thread seems to get more posts anyway.

Happy birthday Bean-O! :toot:

Happy birthday! hope someone gives you a nice gun. Or head.

[QUOTE=SBD;17099695]Happy birthday! hope someone gives you a nice gun. Or head.[/QUOTE] His brother probably.

[QUOTE=DrMortician;17092719]Since when does an AK47 use a puck for its gas system? I believe an AK47 uses a piston and not a puck. [editline]08:15PM[/editline] It gets better, all my magpul stuff finally got in so I took a group shot of EVERYTHING. [media]http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/9826/allgunsdrmortician.jpg[/media] Magpul only made me wait 4 damned months to tell me they aren't producing anything in that color anymore due to lack of demand, then offered me that stock which currently isn't being sold due to massive back orders. It's really nice though, all magpul stuff is.[/QUOTE] Nice collection, is that a bolt action Shotty? :P

[QUOTE=ksenior;17100068]Nice collection, is that a bolt action Shotty? :P[/QUOTE] No it isn- wait, those do look like shotgun shells, or darts or something EXPLAIN.

Specialised rounds, perhaps?

[QUOTE=Oecleus;17099943]His brother probably.[/QUOTE] My brother doesn't like guns. Besides which you can't really give someone a gun as a gift very easily since in California you have to go through a gun dealer without any kind of exceptions and there is almost always a 10-day wait period. That and the recipient needs to do all the paperwork.

[QUOTE=ksenior;17100068]Nice collection, is that a bolt action Shotty? :P[/QUOTE] Yes, yes it is. Not really a shotgun though. More of an over-grown .72 caliber rifle. It's a mossberg 695, Israel was using them for disabling vehicles for awhile. [QUOTE=Morbo!!!;17100820]No it isn- wait, those do look like shotgun shells, or darts or something EXPLAIN.[/QUOTE] Hornady SST sabots: [img]http://www.gunandsport.com/images/ammo/hornady-sst-slug-2.jpg[/img]

[QUOTE=DrMortician;17105162]Yes, yes it is. Not really a shotgun though. More of an over-grown .72 caliber rifle. It's a mossberg 695, Israel was using them for disabling vehicles for awhile.[/QUOTE] How are those? The shop here has a bunch of em, but I'm a little leery of getting one.

[QUOTE=massn7;17105218]How are those? The shop here has a bunch of em, but I'm a little leery of getting one.[/QUOTE] I find the magazine worthless, but if you don't mind dropping shells in, they're the best slug gun ever made. Just make sure to always use sabots, as rifled slugs will foul up the rifling. They're known to touch holes at 200 yards with the right loads.

108)MAS 49 [img]http://world.guns.ru/rifle/mas49-56.jpg[/img] Although the design of the MAS-49 differs greatly from the FN-49 they are both semi-automatic battle rifles with a surprising number of coincidences in their history of service. Seeking an improvement over the MAS-36 and other bolt-action guns used by France at the time they decided to come up with a semi-automatic in the same 7.5x54mm caliber. The development started in the late 1930's and a few prototypes were issued to the troops by 1940. But in the same way that fate intervened in Belgium, a swift takeover and prolonged occupation by German forces meant the end of this rifles development. At least for a time. Much like the FN-49 the development of the MAS rifle resumed after the war ended and like the names imply they were both finalized and released in the same year, although the MAS was adopted in 1951. Like I said however, although it may greatly resemble the FN in looks, name and possibly even operation which causes great confusion between the two the workings are a bit different. The most notable difference is that the MAS doesn't have a gas piston. It is a direct impingement gun. Rather than having a gas-actuated rod run all the way back into the workings the gas is directed against the bolt carrier itself. But unlike the AR-15 series which are more famous for having this feature the bolt carrier looks somewhat like that of an SKS rifle. It is highly exposed as to better accommodate stripper clip feeding. Because the bolt carrier and the surface upon which the gas pushes are so exposed they are very easy to clean and it takes a long time for residue to build up there before that could cause any malfunctions. Because the way the direct impingement system was so well thought out on this rifle it quickly earned a good reputation for reliability which it maintained throughout its career. Indeed it worked so well that the Swedish copied the system used by the MAS-40 protoypes to make the AG-42. Other than the fact that a few prototypes served in WW2 the story of the MAS differs from the FN in that rather than serving as a forerunner to a better design the MAS went on to become a success in its own right and remained in service well into the 1970's. It saw use in Indochina, Algeria, the Suez Crisis and Vietnam not to mention other colonial scuffles that the French were involved in over the years. It has also been proliferated throughout Frances various spheres of influence and remains prized for its reliability, accuracy and overall well thought-out design. The placement of all the components, the workings and even the accessory kit that was issued to all French troops in tandem with the MAS rifles indicates that this gun was designed from lessons learned in the trenches of WW1. Even by modern standards it could very well hold its own against more well-known battle rifles such as the FAL and M14. For one thing unlike many semi-automatics of its time the magazines were the primary method of reloading, with stripper clips being more of an afterthought rather than the other way around. Some were even issued with 18-round magazines although those can be a bit rare. Towards the end of its service for France itself it was among a hodgepodge of various rifles that served as a holdover for the FAMAS which replaced all of them in 1979. After that some were converted to 7.62x51mm NATO and used as sniper rifles while most were imported to the states. Because the French ammunition was scarce there Century Arms rechambered several to 7.62x51mm NATO. However most of these American conversions were poorly done and are to be avoided, especially now that a number of commercial manufacturers make 7.5x54mm and besides which there is always the possibility of reloading your own ammunition. Ultimately while the French aren't known for making too many good firearms credit must be given where it is due, the MAS-49 is by any standard a wonderful design.

[QUOTE=Bean-O;17106896]108)MAS 49 Ultimately while the French aren't known for making too many good firearms credit must be given where it is due, the MAS-49 is by any standard a wonderful design.[/QUOTE] I just got to this thread today, but what about the FAMAS? Is that frowned upon?

[QUOTE=TunnelSnake;17106946]I just got to this thread today, but what about the FAMAS? Is that frowned upon?[/QUOTE] Not that much is known about it. The biggest stain in the French armourers history was the Chauchat which is in this thread simply because it was influential in spite of being a complete failure. They made a number of other lemons throughout their history as well.

[quote=bean-o;17106896]108)mas 49 [/quote] dat mas

fitting avatar for that one

[QUOTE=Bean-O;17105148]My brother doesn't like guns. Besides which you can't really give someone a gun as a gift very easily since in California you have to go through a gun dealer without any kind of exceptions and there is almost always a 10-day wait period. That and the recipient needs to do all the paperwork.[/QUOTE] I was responding to this [QUOTE=SBD;17099695]Or head.[/QUOTE]

Fabrique national herstal FNC pretty please :)

[QUOTE=camper182;17121521]Fabrique national herstal FNC pretty please :)[/QUOTE] Already did it. Flip through part 1, it's #54.

Are trauma plates inserted in the front or in the rear of the vest?