Fantastic Firearms Part 2 - General

[QUOTE=ray243;17317583]Bean-o! Do one on the south african sniper rifle used in district 9! [img]http://tools-of-death.ru/hot/ho01/NWT-20%20(20mm).jpg[/img][/QUOTE] I believe this weapon is the NTW-20, it's a sniper rifle originally designed to destroy/disable military equipment (parked aircraft, trucks, satellite dishes, mounted guns, etc.) rather than people. Sure it uses huge 20mm (or 14.5mm) caliber and it might be able to rip limbs apart but you can do just a good job with your average, conventional sniper rifle. A supply truck with its gas tank shot apart has a much more devastating effect than a dead (or dying), headless solider.

the m1 garand is a nerd gun, you all just like it cause you saw it in cod2 or saving private ryan. it's the same as the ak47; just because it's good in counterstrike doesn't mean it's a good gun! christ, these kiddies need to get out of here [editline]03:33AM[/editline] The NTW-20 is cool and you humorless dickheads need to lighten up. D9 had an array of pretty sweet guns (not ignoring the fact that they were used by a criminal mercenary org above the law).

[QUOTE=Pvt. Ryan;17363994]the m1 garand is a nerd gun, you all just like it cause you saw it in cod2 or saving private ryan. it's the same as the ak47; just because it's good in counterstrike doesn't mean it's a good gun! christ, these kiddies need to get out of here [editline]03:33AM[/editline] The NTW-20 is cool and you humorless dickheads need to lighten up. D9 had an array of pretty sweet guns.[/QUOTE] There's nothing wrong with the Garand...

[QUOTE=mugofdoom;17364023]There's nothing wrong with the Garand...[/QUOTE] are you sure about that about my post that is :smug:

[QUOTE=Pvt. Ryan;17363994]the m1 garand is a nerd gun, you all just like it cause you saw it in cod2 or saving private ryan. it's the same as the ak47; just because it's good in counterstrike doesn't mean it's a good gun! christ, these kiddies need to get out of here [editline]03:33AM[/editline] The NTW-20 is cool and you humorless dickheads need to lighten up. D9 had an array of pretty sweet guns (not ignoring the fact that they were used by a criminal mercenary org above the law).[/QUOTE] This post is full of so much irony.

[QUOTE=Pvt. Ryan;17364033]are you sure about that about my post that is :smug:[/QUOTE] Wha... ohhhh I get ya. I think... :smug:

I'd interrupt this discussion with an article but I simply have nothing to write about at this time. Any ideas? Pistols? Shotguns? SMGs? Assault Rifles? Battle Rifles? Sniper Rifles? Grenade Launchers? RPGs? Any suggestions?

I suggested the Borchardt C93 earlier, I think it deserves a mention.

Since you talked about the Carl Gustav M/45, what about the Carl Gustav recoilless rifle? It's got quite a bit of history in it. [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Gustav_recoilless_rifle[/url]

How about the QBZ series? I know they don't really see much use outside of China, but I've heard they're pretty nice weapons. Or did you do that already? I didn't find it on the list.

Bean-O how about making something about Illegal weapons, Like the frag grenade where you can't see the fragmentation on x-rays. So the stuff stays in your body forever.

117)Carl Gustav recoilless rifle. [img]http://world.guns.ru/grenade/cg_m3-1.jpg[/img] During WW2 Sweden toyed with the idea of recoilless rifles meant to deal with light armor. In 1942 they adopted a shoulder-fired rifle that fired a 20mm projectile. This proved insufficient for anti-tank warfare and by war's end it became clear that a new weapon was needed. Utilizing the same concept, the Carl Gustav was born. It wasn't invented by Carl Gustav, that is simply the name of the company manufactures it. This weapon was actually designed by Hugo Abramson and Harald Jentzen who worked for the Royal Swedish Arms Administration in 1946. The original design was designated as the M1, with subsequent updates being called the M2 and M3. Originally the Carl Gustav was an anti-tank weapon. Its projectile is an 84mm HEAT (High Explosive Anti Tank) round that uses a shaped explosive which detonates on impact. Unlike other launchers there is no stabilizing fin. Rather the rifled barrel of the launcher itself provides the stability. This approach also allows the weapon to have a greater muzzle velocity and range. A moving target can be hit at roughly 400 yards. But it gets better. After adoption the Carl Gustav began seeing use in other purposes. Often it is used to destroy stationary targets such as fortified structures. For that purpose it is effective out to roughly 700 yards. When fired, the propellant gasses are sent out of the venturi tube in the back which cancels the recoil. With some more modern rounds thy have secondary rocket motors that increase the range further still whereas conventional 84mm shells are simply shot out. To reload, the venturi tube is hinged open and a fresh round is inserted. The firing mechanism is a conventional pistol grip with a second one to improve aim. There are simple iron sights, but the preferred method is a 3x optic with an optional night vision insert. All in all the only drawback of this design is weight as it is significantly heavier than its soviet counterpart, the RPG-7. As far as variants go the prototype is the M1 which never saw much production 9if any), the M2 was the first widespread production version and the M3 is a significantly lightened and modernized variant of the M2 which weighs 14 kilos while the newer version weighs roughly 10. From its adoption this weapon became an instant success. Numerous other nations swiftly adopted it and it became among the most common if not the most common squad-level anti-tank weapon on earth. It is used by its native Sweden as well as numerous other NATO members such as the UK, Austria, Denmark, Germany, Norway, Poland and the US to name a few. Numerous other nations such as Japan, Australia, Brazil, Egypt, Greece, India, Indonesia, Pakistan and Venezuela use it too. In truth, while widespread the extent of its use varies. For instance the US only issues them to specialized forces such as USSOCOM.Some of the other nations that use it only do so in relatively limited numbers although a substantial amount of them have it as a standard-issue weapon. It remains devastating against 1960s-1970s era tanks, but is often defeated by more modern armor. Thankfully it has found a variety of roles other than tank-busting. For this purpose there is a very wide array of 84mm shells. Everything from HEAT to anti-air to incendiary, illuminating, anti-personnel and High Explosive (HE) rounds exist, often with a number of variants. I would imagine with so many capabilities, creative soldiers will find numerous uses in the field for this weapon for decades to come.

[QUOTE=Bean-O;17354452]I think you guys are being a bit harsh on ray243.[/QUOTE] Thanks man. Also, what is this weapon? I thought it only existed in rambo? [img]http://www.gun-world.net/usa/rl/m202/m202a1_2.jpg[/img]

[QUOTE=ray243;17365771]Thanks man. Also, what is this weapon? I thought it only existed in rambo? [img_thumb]http://www.gun-world.net/usa/rl/m202/m202a1_2.jpg[/img_thumb][/QUOTE] [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M202A1_FLASH[/url] Also it is in the image name...

Maybe you could move up to doing high caliber weapons and cannons? Plenty of material there. In the meantime, try the Smith & Wesson M&P .40 or the Welrod as I suggested before. Also, just because I didn't notice it, have you done the AK-101/103 series yet?

IMI Negev?

[QUOTE=Linelor;17366571]Maybe you could move up to doing high caliber weapons and cannons? Plenty of material there. In the meantime, try the Smith & Wesson M&P .40 or the Welrod as I suggested before. Also, just because I didn't notice it, have you done the AK-101/103 series yet?[/QUOTE] M&P series? Hahahaha.... Not to mention the .40 is a pretty bleh round as well. The only positive thing about it is that it's easy to convert a .40 to .357sig.

I'd be suprised if you haven't done the Steyr AUG. You have to give credit to a weapon in service with so many nation, and which was so advanced for its time.

[QUOTE=SeamanStaines;17367106]I'd be suprised if you haven't done the Steyr AUG. You have to give credit to a weapon in service with so many nation, and which was so advanced for its time.[/QUOTE] It was in Weeaboo, I'm sure of it.

In my opinion, it is pretty stupid to put a gun in service with more than a douzen nations in the Weeaboo weapons thread.

They have a point. I mean, lets face it, you put that bloody awful French machine-gun in here. No way could the AUG be worse than that.

The AUG wasn't in the Weeabo thread... stop fretting.. Also dropkicks, check the front page before you post. The Steyr AUG is number 24. [QUOTE=SeamanStaines;17367218]In my opinion, it is [b]pretty stupid to put a gun in service with more than a douzen nations[/b] in the Weeaboo weapons thread.[/QUOTE] Hurf M16 platform...

[QUOTE=professional;17367598]The AUG wasn't in the Weeabo thread... stop fretting.. Also dropkicks, check the front page before you post. The Steyr AUG is number 24. [/QUOTE] Damn it, I ran through that list twice and missed it.

[QUOTE=SeamanStaines;17369809]Damn it, I ran through that list twice and missed it.[/QUOTE] CTRL + F and type AUG.

How about a one on how revolvers work?

How about a PIAT?

[QUOTE=Linelor;17366571]Maybe you could move up to doing high caliber weapons and cannons? Plenty of material there. In the meantime, try the Smith & Wesson M&P .40 or the Welrod as I suggested before. Also, just because I didn't notice it, have you done the AK-101/103 series yet?[/QUOTE] The M&P hadn't been around long enough, I don't have a lot of information available about Welrods or how widespread their use was and the AK 100 series falls under the first article.

The Nagant revolver? One of the few revolvers that can be silenced. Though that's one of it's few pros...

[QUOTE=CSargeP;17371346]The Nagant revolver? One of the few revolvers that can be silenced. Though that's one of it's few pros...[/QUOTE] It's been done, I'm sure of it.

[QUOTE=lintz;17371903]It's been done, I'm sure of it.[/QUOTE] Yeah, I just found it with search. I didn't find the M1941 Johnson Rifle in search. But the Garand was picked over the Johnson so it couldn't have been very good.