[QUOTE=Oecleus;17523129]That actually sounds relatively easy to obtain an automatic gun, I always thought you had to wait years, spend a shitload of money, and be constantly tracked in order to get one.[/QUOTE]
Well it does take a long time for them to process your paperwork.
And you do have to have a FLAWLESS record. And even then you can still be turned down.
[QUOTE=Oecleus;17522203]Anyone know the rules and procedures for burst fire weapons? Is there any company that sells burst fire m16's to civilians?[/QUOTE]
There under class 3 firearms.
Another problem with buying class 3s is that SBRs, grenade launchers and the like are a pain in the butt to get but fully-automatics are an even bigger problem. A law was passed in 1986 where no new guns could be registered as class 3 machine guns. So there is a fixed amount available.
Ever taken an economics or business class?
The result is that a 300$ gun is selling for 3,000$ nowadays, often even more. Want a belt-fed gun? Mortgage your house. There are work-arounds such as buying a receiver and putting the rest together with a parts kit. But in the end no matter how you go about it a legal fully-automatic will cost you an arm and a leg. A transferable one anyway. And that is on top of the general pain in the ass you have to endure to get a class 3 tax stamp in the first place.
[QUOTE=Bean-O;17429965]
Publishing books is a lot of work. For one thing I would have to go over all of the articles and re-check every little fact written there. Its one thing to post something on the internet, it is another to publish it in literature. Another cause for concern is that most gun books don't do this thing where they exclusively cover successful designs. They try to cover the interesting, but more specialized or flat out unsuccessful concepts too. Because I don't cover these weapons in my thread, a published compilation of this thread would probably not be very successful. If I did re-write it to include interesting failures it would be like every other gun book on the market.
That and I doubt anyone would take a book on guns written by a 19 year old seriously.
But you guys can feel free to distribute any of my content as you see fit.[/QUOTE]
Honestly Bean-O. I would buy your book.
But I'll get to work making one :v:
its almost over
There should be an article for a gun or military weapon/vehicle manufactured in each year that's the same as the post number, just to finish off the thread. We could all collaborate on it, but I'm not sure if anyone has the ability to write articles as well as Bean-O
(This post being 1970)
#1
the wheel
[QUOTE=famasfanalt;17528711]its almost over[/QUOTE]
It isn't almost over. I announced that Fantastic Firearms is discontinued a page ago.
I simply have too many other things to do.
HEY! LISTEN!
I need some pictures for references. If any of you own an AK74 (a Tantal or Bulgarian, preferably Bulgarian) can you please take a picture or two of your muzzle WITHOUT the muzzle brake on? I need to see exactly how far the front sight block is supposed to go onto the barrel. I THINK it is supposed to stick out a tiny bit past the threads for the brake, but I absolutely positively cannot find any resources on this.
It would be a HUGE help if one of you could get a pic or two.
[QUOTE=Bean-O;17523654]Another problem with buying class 3s is that SBRs, grenade launchers and the like are a pain in the butt to get but fully-automatics are an even bigger problem. A law was passed in 1986 where no new guns could be registered as class 3 machine guns. So there is a fixed amount available.
Ever taken an economics or business class?
The result is that a 300$ gun is selling for 3,000$ nowadays, often even more. Want a belt-fed gun? Mortgage your house. There are work-arounds such as buying a receiver and putting the rest together with a parts kit. But in the end no matter how you go about it a legal fully-automatic will cost you an arm and a leg. A transferable one anyway. And that is on top of the general pain in the ass you have to endure to get a class 3 tax stamp in the first place.[/QUOTE]
I thought the 86' ban was over though, hence the return of AR and AK platform weapons in the civilian population. Granted they are semiautomatic, but they were a part of the ban.
[QUOTE=Pvt. Ryan;17561516]HEY! LISTEN!
I need some pictures for references. If any of you own an AK74 (a Tantal or Bulgarian, preferably Bulgarian) can you please take a picture or two of your muzzle WITHOUT the muzzle brake on? I need to see exactly how far the front sight block is supposed to go onto the barrel. I THINK it is supposed to stick out a tiny bit past the threads for the brake, but I absolutely positively cannot find any resources on this.
It would be a HUGE help if one of you could get a pic or two.[/QUOTE]
If it isn't pinned on, or obvious where it goes, it's pretty well up to you as to where you put it. Preference would be as far forward as possible, without interference.
[QUOTE=UncleJimmema;17562302]I thought the 86' ban was over though, hence the return of AR and AK platform weapons in the civilian population. Granted they are semiautomatic, but they were a part of the ban.[/QUOTE]
They were part of the '94 ban, is that what you're thinking of?
[QUOTE=UncleJimmema;17562302]I thought the 86' ban was over though, hence the return of AR and AK platform weapons in the civilian population. Granted they are semiautomatic, but they were a part of the ban.[/QUOTE]
'86 ban was on NFA weapons. What you're thinking about is the AWB ban in '94, passed by Clinton and the congress of that time.
Expired in 2004, banned arbitrary shit like pistol grips and flash hiders.
[QUOTE=DrMortician;17562347]If it isn't pinned on, or obvious where it goes, it's pretty well up to you as to where you put it. Preference would be as far forward as possible, without interference.[/QUOTE]
I know, but I would like it to be identical to how it was as a Bulgarian service rifle.
I don't want to put it on willy-nilly if I can avoid it.
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nevermind, found a good enough reference:
[img]http://tantal.kalashnikov.guns.ru/variant/FSB_B_all.jpg[/img]
basically the muzzle should line up with the end of the sight block
Gooodbye thread.
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZ_F9lPym0w[/media]
Skip to 0:25 to see some slow motion clips of my Glock 19.
Let this thread die...
I want last psot
Don't know about ya'll, but I heard the Robinson XCR should have the new stock (think SCAR stock, but better looking and bulletproof) before this year is out.
[QUOTE=Hunt3r.j2;17612402]Don't know about ya'll, but I heard the Robinson XCR should have the new stock (think SCAR stock, but better looking and bulletproof) before this year is out.[/QUOTE]
Whats the point of a bulletproof stock?
[QUOTE=ubertaco;17605750]Let this thread die...
I want last psot[/QUOTE]
Oh boohoo
[QUOTE=RichyZ;17667975]Better durability, and maybe for a little protection (When holding near your torso, it could block a shot.)[/QUOTE]
What.
The chances of that actually happening are fucking 1 in a 100, there is no way they designed the stock with that in mind, that would be stupid. I highly doubt the stock is any more "bullet proof" than the average polymer stock is.
[QUOTE=professional;17670690]What.
The chances of that actually happening are fucking 1 in a 100, there is no way they designed the stock with that in mind, that would be stupid. I highly doubt the stock is any more "bullet proof" than the average polymer stock is.[/QUOTE]
It would also make the stock a bit heavier, would it not?
Well I was reading through and saw Pvt. Ryans Suggestions on NOT getting the Hi-Point and would like to know how "Professional" He is on this weapon since he tells everyone they are a peice. I personally own the carbine 995 AND the c9 Handgun which I open carry. Neither has had a problem, both have lifetime warrenty, Only the pistol has jammed before because I tried fitting the carbine magazine into the pistol and it did not work. Other than that no jam EVER and i've only fired the cheap ass crap ammo. Accurate to about 100 yards and thats damn good for a carbine especially since i'm no marksman either. I also own other weapons than a hi point such as my Yugo Sks and 91/30 Nagant. I've also fired MANY other firearms, Colt m4, RPD, Ak74, Ak47, Mossburg Tactical Pump, G3, Lee Enfeild mk4. So I believe I have qualified to rate the Hi-Point.
Facts:
over 1,000 rounds NEVER jammed.
Unconditional Lifetime warranty.
Under $200 to get one.
I'm not putting my accuracy on here because I know that varies from person to person.
I just get tired of people constantly saying "hi points suck" just because its an inexpensive gun.
Would you rather drive a Honda Civic for $14,000 or a Mercedez Benz civic for $55,000, Same features, Same thing, Same engine just different name. Just a hypothetical question I know they dont make MB civics!
[QUOTE=G12-A5;17672224]Well I was reading through and saw Pvt. Ryans Suggestions on NOT getting the Hi-Point and would like to know how "Professional" He is on this weapon since he tells everyone they are a peice. I personally own the carbine 995 AND the c9 Handgun which I open carry. Neither has had a problem, both have lifetime warrenty, Only the pistol has jammed before because I tried fitting the carbine magazine into the pistol and it did not work. Other than that no jam EVER and i've only fired the cheap ass crap ammo. Accurate to about 100 yards and thats damn good for a carbine especially since i'm no marksman either. I also own other weapons than a hi point such as my Yugo Sks and 91/30 Nagant. I've also fired MANY other firearms, Colt m4, RPD, Ak74, Ak47, Mossburg Tactical Pump, G3, Lee Enfeild mk4. So I believe I have qualified to rate the Hi-Point.
Facts:
over 1,000 rounds NEVER jammed.
Unconditional Lifetime warranty.
Under $200 to get one.
I'm not putting my accuracy on here because I know that varies from person to person.
I just get tired of people constantly saying "hi points suck" just because its an inexpensive gun.
Would you rather drive a Honda Civic for $14,000 or a Mercedez Benz civic for $55,000, Same features, Same thing, Same engine just different name. Just a hypothetical question I know they dont make MB civics![/QUOTE]
Only time I ever fired a hi-point the bitch jammed after the first shot, but it never jam's on my buddy who is the owner.
A bit off topic but I nabbed myself a Mossberg 500A, has a shitty folding stock but it comes with an 8 round tube and a heat shield. I plan on putting on a collapsible stock, ghost ring sights, and a front tri-rail system on it. Here's a pic, sorry for the camera phone quality.
[img]http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/3558/oct04001.jpg[/img]
I took some artsy photos of a couple of my guns for no real reason, figured I'd upload em or some shit.
[img]http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/5238/img0103bd.jpg[/img]
[img]http://img2.imageshack.us/img2/1546/img1333r.jpg[/img]
Wee.
By the way, nice Mossberg 500A, UncleJimmema.
[QUOTE=mugofdoom;17684044]I took some artsy photos of a couple of my guns for no real reason, figured I'd upload em or some shit.
[img_thumb]http://img2.imageshack.us/img2/1546/img1333r.jpg[/img_thumb]
Wee.
By the way, nice Mossberg 500A, UncleJimmema.[/QUOTE]
Nicccccce.
I love those guns, brings back memories of some classic games and movies.
[QUOTE=zerglingv2;17679675]Only time I ever fired a hi-point the bitch jammed after the first shot, but it never jam's on my buddy who is the owner.[/QUOTE]
The one recurring problem I hear about with Hi-Points is that the mags will jam if they are new. You have to fire the first couple hundred rounds off without loading the mag all the way in order to break it in. Other than that they work fine. I think all the snobs that go on about how much they suck, especially the ones that regularly buy 1,500$+ guns should get one just to see how they shoot. I mean if they spend so much money on guns anyway how can 200$ not be worth it? Even if it is just to ease their curiosity.
[QUOTE=G12-A5;17672224]Well I was reading through and saw Pvt. Ryans Suggestions on NOT getting the Hi-Point and would like to know how "Professional" He is on this weapon since he tells everyone they are a peice. I personally own the carbine 995 AND the c9 Handgun which I open carry. Neither has had a problem, both have lifetime warrenty, Only the pistol has jammed before because I tried fitting the carbine magazine into the pistol and it did not work. Other than that no jam EVER and i've only fired the cheap ass crap ammo. Accurate to about 100 yards and thats damn good for a carbine especially since i'm no marksman either. I also own other weapons than a hi point such as my Yugo Sks and 91/30 Nagant. I've also fired MANY other firearms, Colt m4, RPD, Ak74, Ak47, Mossburg Tactical Pump, G3, Lee Enfeild mk4. So I believe I have qualified to rate the Hi-Point.
Facts:
over 1,000 rounds NEVER jammed.
Unconditional Lifetime warranty.
Under $200 to get one.
I'm not putting my accuracy on here because I know that varies from person to person.
I just get tired of people constantly saying "hi points suck" just because its an inexpensive gun.
Would you rather drive a Honda Civic for $14,000 or a Mercedez Benz civic for $55,000, Same features, Same thing, Same engine just different name. Just a hypothetical question I know they dont make MB civics![/QUOTE]
Post some pictures of these targets proving the accuracy of this pistol. Perhaps some pictures or something as proof you're not just bullshitting.
Your last paragraph is especially hilarious. If you honestly believe the hipoint has anything in common with any service grade firearm you're smoking crack.
[editline]11:04PM[/editline]
[QUOTE=UncleJimmema;17681112]A bit off topic but I nabbed myself a Mossberg 500A, has a shitty folding stock but it comes with an 8 round tube and a heat shield. I plan on putting on a collapsible stock, ghost ring sights, and a front tri-rail system on it. Here's a pic, sorry for the camera phone quality.
[img]http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/3558/oct04001.jpg[/img][/QUOTE]
The safety is on the top of the receiver, why the fuck would you put anything but a standard stock on it?
You'll just end up making the gun harder to use. If you absolutely have to have a tacticool stock, get an 870 instead, so that you can still use the firearm's most basic features.
[QUOTE=DrMortician;17685696]
The safety is on the top of the receiver, why the fuck would you put anything but a standard stock on it?
You'll just end up making the gun harder to use. If you absolutely have to have a tacticool stock, get an 870 instead, so that you can still use the firearm's most basic features.[/QUOTE]
Plane and simple having the safety on top makes you think about making sure the safty is on or off. The current stock I have on there is absolute garbage, and a full size stock w/o pistol grip would make it to long for what it's intended use is for (home defense and deer hunting). The collapsible I'm looking at has felt recoil buffers in it so shooters fatigue is pretty much non-existent, and on top of that I've always liked the pistol grip more than the conventional style. I'm not out to make it tacticool, I'm out to make it a functional weapon that I am comfortable with.
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