but no the warhead does all the work the launching platform was just supposed to provide some sort of trigger to fire the charge.
[QUOTE=RidingKeys;33738569]but no the warhead does all the work the launching platform was just supposed to provide some sort of trigger to fire the charge.[/QUOTE]
Using explosives as propellant generally isnt looked highly upon from a safety standpoint.
i think i had u added on steam or something ill tell u how its supposed to work or somEHTING of that sort
Model rockets. Do it bitch.
as cool as all this would be
there's a reason why impact explosives aren't used in airsoft
it'd be cool to see the tornado impact grenade somehow being used for this though, but i doubt fields would let you use it
(imagine that grenade hitting you in the top of the head at terminal velocity)
its not an impact explosive
basically timebomb got this idea and i think im gonna end up doing
a normal mortar triggers the propellant, so thats what we do, then as its coming down, a timer will trigger a parachute charge that slides the nose cone out as well as the bb's
that could be pretty cool
it'd be like a DPICM
.. how are you going to do the timer?
with a timer
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wheres ur avatar from btw
just wire a timer into a motor to push out a parachute?
yeah but what if the thing hits the ground before the parachute comes out. would look retarded. ball hits ground, bbs roll out and parachute shoots out and falls to ground.
[QUOTE=RidingKeys;33741027]a normal mortar triggers the propellant[/QUOTE]
And what would the propellant be? If you're proposing a rocket motor being fired out of a motor, the liability concerns are obscene.
Basically I was suggesting he just use a model rocket engine since the propellant charge would get the round into the air and the parachute charge would deploy the BBs. The problem was that the parachute charge deploys at the apex of the flight path, so getting the BBs to go in a specific direction would be nearly impossible.
Riding said something about a "timer" but I don't know what the fuck he was talking about since the model rocket engine's parachute charge deploys when the propellant charge runs out, its not on a "timer" persay.
Not to mention the fact that each round would be ridiculously expensive per shot, and the whole idea itself would be way to dangerous to be used on any insured field.
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[QUOTE=xxncxx;33741420]yeah but what if the thing hits the ground before the parachute comes out. would look retarded. ball hits ground, bbs roll out and parachute shoots out and falls to ground.[/QUOTE]
There's no actual parachute. Model rocket engines have a little charge at the end that would [I]normally[/I] deploy a chute, but I was suggesting using it to basically create an airburst round.
umm its actually relatively cheap
i can make enough model rocket fuel for like 10 rounds including the actual engines for about $6
and i wasnt going to use it on a field as i dont support the idea of using explosives in airsoft its just a fun little project for me to do
ANYWAYS
timers
are just simple timed mechanisms that deploy the parachute charge after a certain amount of time passes
this would allow for more precise timing of letting the bb's fall to the ground
but that means you'd need to weigh it down further with a power source, wires and the timer shit itself
I don't know, but making some kind of Javelin-ish thing with the engines would be fucking incredible, but you would have to make the rounds ahead of time and make them so that the wires that set off the engine would be reliably linked to the trigger, also you would have to link one of those launch boxs to the trigger as well, so the internal mech could become complicated as well as bulky. So basically you still have to have the normal materials to set off a model rocket, but compacted and put in a shoulder mounted launcher, and connected to something like a trigger of some sorts to make it easier to use. Alternatively you could mount the launch station/box thingy on the side and launch it with that still. Also you would have to connect the launching wires to the rockets after every launch, which would be a major hassle. All in all a pneumatic system is a much more effecient, simple, and effective means of doing this. HOWEVER, if you did solve all these problems you would be a god. But even then i'm still leaving out all the bits about launching whatever you intend to launch, as like Ender said, the rockets are designed to blow the parachute charge when it reaches the apex of it's flight, which would blow the payload upwards as opposed to where it's supposed to go. Even if you launched it horizontally, the safety problems and the fact that if it's a C class motor it will go for 1000 ft before it blows the parachute charge makes it useless like that, unless you're firing from 1000 ft away, which ruins the purpose, considering the fact that once you actually saw your target, you would have to FALL BACK to actually kill it. Not to mention the dangerous speeds that these rockets go at, and the extremely high temps that they burn at.
timebomb hurry the fuck up and tell us how to make a rapid-fire launcher
[QUOTE=the_killer24;33744668]timebomb hurry the fuck up and tell us how to make a rapid-fire launcher[/QUOTE]
Eh, i could figure that out. It's all dependant on a home made magazine though, and the bore won't be as secure as a single shot launcher, but it will be "rapid fire" as in fires about 5 shots without reloading. Kinda like the Nerf definition of rapid fire.
[QUOTE=the_killer24;33744668]timebomb hurry the fuck up and tell us how to make a rapid-fire launcher[/QUOTE]
i got exams and shit fucking god damn
ill work on it over Christmas break
Guys, way better idea, take timebomb's mortar and make an awesome shell for it. Rather than a tennis ball, some sort of model rocket, and when it starts descending, the nosecone flys off and bbs fall out. If you make the majority of the rocket consist of tough nerfesque foam, it wouldn't pose any more of a safety hazard than the nerf mortar rounds a lot of fields run.
[QUOTE=notrabies;33747985]Guys, way better idea, take timebomb's mortar and make an awesome shell for it. Rather than a tennis ball, some sort of model rocket, and when it starts descending, the nosecone flys off and bbs fall out. If you make the majority of the rocket consist of tough nerfesque foam, it wouldn't pose any more of a safety hazard than the nerf mortar rounds a lot of fields run.[/QUOTE]
In theory then, the BB rain would simulate a "shrapnel" effect, sort of like a tornado grenade? I like.
[QUOTE=Timebomb575;33743055]Basically I was suggesting he just use a model rocket engine since the propellant charge would get the round into the air and the parachute charge would deploy the BBs. The problem was that the parachute charge deploys at the apex of the flight path, so getting the BBs to go in a specific direction would be nearly impossible.
Riding said something about a "timer" but I don't know what the fuck he was talking about since the model rocket engine's parachute charge deploys when the propellant charge runs out, its not on a "timer" persay.
Not to mention the fact that each round would be ridiculously expensive per shot, and the whole idea itself would be way to dangerous to be used on any insured field.
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There's no actual parachute. Model rocket engines have a little charge at the end that would [I]normally[/I] deploy a chute, but I was suggesting using it to basically create an airburst round.[/QUOTE]
Something tells me you would have to custom make an engine then. Have the normal propellants and charge, with some kind of slow burning substance in between them.
[QUOTE=notrabies;33747985]Guys, way better idea, take timebomb's mortar and make an awesome shell for it. Rather than a tennis ball, some sort of model rocket, and when it starts descending, the nosecone flys off and bbs fall out. If you make the majority of the rocket consist of tough nerfesque foam, it wouldn't pose any more of a safety hazard than the nerf mortar rounds a lot of fields run.[/QUOTE]
jesus christ this is exactly what i said above
Yours involves motors, mine does not. Using an existing system which is known to be safe and allowed, we're changing a tennis ball into a model rocket filled entirely with BB's. Everything will be powered by HPA or CO2 as it already is.
umm okay guarantee you it'll go like 10 ft and then fall
but ok
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actually it might go more i could be wrong
timebomb's shit uses HPA iirc
so..
I don't think a rocket filled with bb's would weigh much more than a tennis ball, and if it does you can crank up the pressure. Worst case scenario you make it a sabot round.
heh, a replica javelin that launches giant paintballs(washable paint if there is such thing) would be kind of cool, or some alternative to paint.
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