TNG and Voyager are by far the most interesting.
DS9: to boldly stay where we are and hope something interesting comes along
It's full of stupid this like a prophecy. Only interesting episodes I've seen were the comflict ones (i.e Defiant and the Dominion)
[QUOTE=Kalibos2;25436380]I mean watch this scene from The Original Series and tell me it doesn't charm you at least a little bit
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6408JrvFNWc[/media][/QUOTE]
earlier in the episode
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XyhhFzE5O5U[/media]
[QUOTE=Andy101;25436807]TNG and Voyager are by far the most interesting.
DS9: to boldly stay where we are and hope something interesting comes along
It's full of stupid this like a prophecy. Only interesting episodes I've seen were the comflict ones (i.e Defiant and the Dominion)[/QUOTE]
So the ones with the big amounts of CGI and Space Battles and ships exploding and phasers and torpedoes?
I've met Patrick Stewart. I didn't talk to him about Star Trek though. We just briefly spoke about Christmas Carol. I assumed he was tired of talking about Star Trek so chose not to mention it.
I've got every episode of TNG, DS9 and VOY.
Also, there's already a Star Trek thread but it died on its arse months ago.
TNG and Voyager are my favourites. They have good storylines and overarcing plots so you can watch a series or just an episode and enjoy it. DS9 is also very good but a lot of episodes were directly related and if you didn't see one you'd miss vital details. I never liked TOS, it was just too cheesy and forced for me. Probably Shatner, I always hated Shatner.
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And Enterprise had good acting but the story was fucking awful. I wanted early Earths politics with the Vulcans, Klingon and Andorans, not that retarded time war with the Xindi.
Infact most of the time travel episodes were shit. Fuck off 29th century, stop fucking everything up! :argh:
Love Voyager. Especially the Doctor - one of the most unique characters I've seen in Television.
Be nice if they made another show like The Next Generation, that one was my favourite as well. Although it probably wouldn't be very popular among non-Trek fans and so be unsuccessful commercially...
[QUOTE=Randy;25436891]So the ones with the big amounts of CGI and Space Battles and ships exploding and phasers and torpedoes?[/QUOTE]
For DS9, yes, the characters didn't interest me. In TNG and Voyager nearly every episode had something interesting to offer.
My opinions on each of the series:
TOS: Really good and obviously is the most Star-Trekky, but it's often let down by the fact that they didn't have a sense of continuity yet. Like in many episodes they claim different substances are the strongest known to man. Then in another episode they have a truth serum that is never mentioned ever again. I love the formula it used though; Enterprise encounters something strange, they investigate, can't save the day, Scotty pushes it, they save the day. It would have gotten stale eventually so I'm glad it finished when it did.
And while episodes such as the Nazi Planet or Yankies/Commies Planet episodes seemed cheesy, can sometimes be quite good, so long as you look past a lot of the really dumb stuff that's in there.
TAS: Only ever seen two episodes of this so I can't really have an opinion on it. From the episodes I've seen it wasn't vary good. I think they got kidnapped by some McDonalds fries or something.
TNG: My favourite series. I know a lot of people say it would have been better if it didn't portray humanity (and often the rest of the Federation) as already having achieved the perfect society, but it didn't really show Earth all that much at all. On the flagship of the Federation they're going to only have the best, I'm sure not everyone is as mature as Picard. What I really love about the series though is how it manages to be exciting without having all that much action in it. The Enterprise rarely ever got into a massive battle, even in "Yesterday's Enterprise" when the timeline is changed and they've been at war with the Klingons for years, there isn't that much of a big battle even though it's a warship.
In addition to all this I generally like the layout of the Enterprise. It's nice and bright on most decks, lots of room on the bridge and engineering. I had a better sense of where things were than in the original series too. Was the red trapezium thing in TOS the warp core? I dunno.
DS9: I barely ever have a chance to watch this as it's either never on, or it's on when I'm at school. I generally don't like darker shows (darker in the lighting sense), and since DS9 is pretty brown and beige everywhere I was put off for quite a while. When I did get around to watching some of it I really liked it though. It was good to see them stray from the "planet of the week" thing that the past series had been doing.
VOY: I do quite like Voyager too but I don't like it as much as TNG or TOS. One big reason for this is because it went from "We've got to get home!" to "The Doctor, Captain Janeway and Seven of Nine Show". It barely had any character development for anyone else. Not many of the other characters were very good anyway. Chakotay is pretty boring, when he's on an away mission but isn't the main character of the episode, I generally can't stand to watch it. Then there's Harry Kim. I quite like him but he never does anything interesting and the crew care so little about him that when he dies in one episode they act as if everything's normal since they have a parallel universe version of him.
Don't even get me started on the Borg. In TNG they were the biggest threat ever; one cube could destroy all of Starfleet. In Voyager, one Intrepid class ship could destroy the entire collective. I'm not saying they shouldn't have included the Borg, but they shouldn't have made them into the race of bees that don't consider you a threat despite the fact you've beaten them hundreds of times already.
ENT: I can understand why a lot of people hate it. There are quite a few good episodes but there are far more bad ones than the other series. It might have to do with the fact that you know they're going to win since the rest of Star Trek happens in the future. My favourite episodes that can stand by themselves and don't rely on any other episodes (in fact this applies to each of the series and most of the movies as well). My favourite one would be "In a Mirror, Darkly" since it doesn't rely on any other episode except for [i]maybe[/i] "The Tholian Web", but that isn't necessary. I really disliked the whole Xindi arc though, since it just felt like it was dragged out and the fact that Earth isn't destroyed in the future takes a lot away.
[QUOTE=Captain Proton;25430683]cuz the 2009 movie has some other thread or somethin, idk.
that being said the 2009 movie was probably the best star trek movie ever made. also it was on a different timeline[/QUOTE]
Nah, I wouldn't say it's the best movie. It's definitely good, but it doesn't beat II, IV or VI in my opinion.
Something that I want answered about the 2009 movie is this: the stardate system is changed so that it corresponds to the Gregorian year. However, when Spock asks the Jellyfish Ship for its stardate of manufacture, it replies with the year as in the new format, but since it was built in the original Trek timeline, it should have responded in the old format.
[QUOTE=Captain Proton;25432830]I can't believe how old TNG really is, it doesn't even seem like that old of a show, but here's a somewhat recent picture of some of the cast.
[img_thumb]http://aljaud.com/pics/public/startrek.jpg[/img_thumb]
dunno who the fatso in the middle is.[/QUOTE]
Who's the guy in the back? Also wtf is up with her nose?
Film4 is showing all the Star Trek movies over 2 days.
I don't think I'll watch them, but I'll leave them on :v:
[QUOTE=Akayz;25437860]Film4 is showing all the Star Trek movies over 2 days.
I don't think I'll watch them, but I'll leave them on :v:[/QUOTE]
When?!?
EDIT: Found the channel, whoo!
Now to nitpick on all of the plot holes and continuity errors I find.
[QUOTE=Rasrap Smurf;25438093]When?!?[/QUOTE]
Right now.....
[QUOTE=Rasrap Smurf;25437858]Who's the guy in the back? Also wtf is up with her nose?[/QUOTE]
John de Lancie, the bloke who played Q.
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Also LeVar Burton hasn't aged even slightly.
[QUOTE=Rasrap Smurf;25437858]
Who's the guy in the back? Also wtf is up with her nose?[/QUOTE]
*ninjad*
That's Q! :v:
He also played Jane's dad in Breaking Bad.
Excellent post, by the way.
Made me a little weary about getting into Voyager, though.
I also agree on every point about Enterprise.
Prequels are so damn pointless unless they're a movie that details the origin of the subject because otherwise, what's the point when you know what's going to happen?
I love all of them, even voyager, but I can't fucking stand enterprise, it was so fucking bad.
I mean, voyager had a lot of dud episodes and a plethora of continuity errors, but overall was better than DS9, which only got really good late into the series. And enterprise? It was cheesy bullshit, with no character at all that I actually liked.
Enterprise Seasons 3 + 4 weren't bad
Actually, I'm going to list my favourite and least favourite characters. Here goes.
TOS:
Favourite: Kirk, McCoy
Least Favourite: All the women who inexplicably fall in love with kirk.
TNG:
Favourite: Picard, Q, Data
Least Favourite: Troi. FUCKING Troi.
DS9:
Favourite: O'Brien, Garak
Least Favourite: ALL the Bajorans.
VOY:
Favourite: The Doctor, Seven of Nine to an extent.
Least Favourite: Neelix. They eventually got rid of him, but that was a few episodes before the show fucking ended.
ENT:
Favourite: The vulcan chick who randomly got naked.
Least Favourite: Everyone else.
Only watched TGN because of Patrick.
Fun Fact:
In Voyager they were all ready to bin off Harry Kim to be replaced by Seven of Nine at the end of Season 3, but the actor Garret Wang was placed highly on a "Most Beautiful People" list in a large media magazine so they binned Kes (Jennifer Lien) instead.
FFS, Kes was at least a semi-interesting character. Harry Kim could have been replaced by a blinking light labeled "Shields down".
[QUOTE=Janus Vesta;25439645]FFS, Kes was at least a semi-interesting character. Harry Kim could have been replaced by a blinking light labeled "Shields down".[/QUOTE]
You'd need at least 2 lights;
[ ] Shields at X% / Are Down
[ ] We're being hailed
Deep Space Nine was fucking incredible. Especially once the Dominion rolled in.
So it's Q. Didn't recognise him with the beard.
[QUOTE=Generic.Monk;25438801]
Least Favourite: Neelix. They eventually got rid of him, but that was a few episodes before the show fucking ended.[/QUOTE]
I like to think of Neelix and Tuvok as a parallel to Spongebob and Squidward :v:
In VOY, I loved the way that in season 3 in the episode [sp]Where Kess had those time jumps[/sp] that part of a different episode in season 4 was shown.
I also like to read up on the Star Trek Universe lore in the wikia. Things like the edge of the galaxy and the farthest year you could go particularly interests me.
[QUOTE=DarkWolf2;25441861]In VOY, I loved the way that in season 3 in the episode where Kess had those time jumps that part of a different episode in season 4 was shown.
I also like to read up on the Star Trek Universe lore in the wikia. Things like the edge of the galaxy and the farthest year you could go particularly interests me.[/QUOTE]
It aired like 10 years ago, I don't think you need to use spoiler tags.
You didn't even spoil anything inside them.
[QUOTE=Craptasket;25434976]I was going to ironically post that it was me but damn you beat me[/QUOTE]
owned
[QUOTE=CarlBooth;25442112]It aired like 10 years ago, I don't think you need to use spoiler tags.
You didn't even spoil anything inside them.[/QUOTE]
I've not watched all of Voyager so I appreciate spoiler tags.
Hard to believe its been 23 years since TNG aired. I remember watching it as a young lad back in the 90's that and the early seasons of DS9. I managed to watch Voyager later on when I somehow ended up with all 7 seasons on DVD along with TNG, Voyager is now my favorite.
[QUOTE=CarlBooth;25439550]Fun Fact:
In Voyager they were all ready to bin off Harry Kim to be replaced by Seven of Nine at the end of Season 3, but the actor Garret Wang was placed highly on a "Most Beautiful People" list in a large media magazine so they binned Kes (Jennifer Lien) instead.[/QUOTE]
ugh, i actually liked kes, IDK what she was thinking with her long hair though, she looked weird with long hair.
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