• Facepunch Anonymous Confessionals V. Try Again: Confess your sins, my child.
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[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;52693424]Started as a potentially thoughtful social critique on how it's sad that we judge each other so harshly, and on how we need to strive to understand the often ugly thought processes behind the hateful perspectives of white supremacists, but quickly devolved into a multi-paragraph rant about how violent and stupid those stinky rap-listenin' black people are. What a shame. You claim you want sympathy and understanding for your perspectives, but offer none in return. You claim that "your kind" is demonized and vilified, while simultaneously doing the same to entire racial groups. What you are, first and foremost, is a hypocrite. So long as you cannot discuss the "personal plight" of your beliefs without devolving into such toxic and counterproductive narratives, you'll never find the common ground you claim to be looking for. You simply cannot build a platform of respect and understanding on a foundation of aggressive and irrational hatred. The decision to change has to come from [I]you[/I]. Nobody can come and fix you [I]for[/I] you, least of all here on an internet forum. If you truly want to abandon the destructive and oppressive ideology you subscribe to, you first have to choose to start being more critical [I]of yourself.[/I] Nobody else can undo the hot bundle of hate you've wound up inside yourself with a few posts on an internet forum so long as you refuse to truly admit any accountability. You claim to be a victim of your own beliefs, an unwilling passenger who just sees [I]the truth[/I] of the world and is shunned because of it, but you repeatedly thrust the fault of [U]your[/U] toxicity to everybody else. You need to seek therapy.[/QUOTE] Firstly, is my hatred really irrational? How can you call it irrational when it stems from experiences that I have personally had? I didn't get my views through the media or friends, I got them because my communities are being destroyed right before my very eyes. How can I be asked to simply ignore the shit they have done? I don't think there is anything irrational about getting furious about that. And no, I haven't [I]thrust [/I]my toxicity on everyone else, did you read the disclaimer at the top? The part that tells you exactly what this writing was going to be about, warning you to move on if you didn't like the topic? And as I have said before these thoughts of mine have never entered the world in any form except for benign thoughts and this forum post here, so I am hardly thrusting any toxicity online or off. As for hypocrisy, I am not a hypocrite because I am judging people for their actions, not their thoughts. I have had no "actions". Thoughts I can give sympathy for. If I were going around beating people up because of their skin color, asking for sympathy for my actions while offering none for others, that would be different. But here I am wanting understanding for my [I]thoughts[/I], which revolves around judging others [I]actions[/I]. And how am I supposed to discuss my beliefs without getting into my "toxic" narratives? (I don't see how they are counter-productive given they add depth and better characterize my views, aiding in your understanding) If they are the explanation and foundation of my thoughts? Without the latter half of my writing, there would be no point to it, it simply wouldn't make sense. So yes. The "truth of my world" is that it is being ruined by certain people, and as a result hate them for it. Am I supposed to be blind to this? To their actions? I do admit accountability, I own my thoughts even though I don't necessarily like them. And what on earth would a therapist achieve?
[QUOTE=gibdiscordplz;52693705]Firstly, is my hatred really irrational? How can you call it irrational when it stems from experiences that I have personally had? I didn't get my views through the media or friends, I got them because my communities are being destroyed right before my very eyes. How can I be asked to simply ignore the shit they have done? I don't think there is anything irrational about getting furious about that. And no, I haven't [I]thrust [/I]my toxicity on everyone else, did you read the disclaimer at the top? The part that tells you exactly what this writing was going to be about, warning you to move on if you didn't like the topic? And as I have said before these thoughts of mine have never entered the world in any form except for benign thoughts and this forum post here, so I am hardly thrusting any toxicity online or off. As for hypocrisy, I am not a hypocrite because I am judging people for their actions, not their thoughts. I have had no "actions". Thoughts I can give sympathy for. If I were going around beating people up because of their skin color, asking for sympathy for my actions while offering none for others, that would be different. But here I am wanting understanding for my [I]thoughts[/I], which revolves around judging others [I]actions[/I]. And how am I supposed to discuss my beliefs without getting into my "toxic" narratives? (I don't see how they are counter-productive given they add depth and better characterize my views, aiding in your understanding) If they are the explanation and foundation of my thoughts? Without the latter half of my writing, there would be no point to it, it simply wouldn't make sense. So yes. The "truth of my world" is that it is being ruined by certain people, and as a result hate them for it. Am I supposed to be blind to this? To their actions? I do admit accountability, I own my thoughts even though I don't necessarily like them. And what on earth would a therapist achieve?[/QUOTE] A therapist would help you identify and unravel the sheer motherload of incredibly unhealthy thought patterns you're displaying
[QUOTE=gibdiscordplz;52693705]Firstly, is my hatred really irrational? How can you call it irrational when it stems from experiences that I have personally had? I didn't get my views through the media or friends, I got them because my communities are being destroyed right before my very eyes. How can I be asked to simply ignore the shit they have done? I don't think there is anything irrational about getting furious about that.[/quote] Who is "they?" You're blaming the entire non-white population of the planet for the actions of people in your specific community. [quote]And no, I haven't [I]thrust [/I]my toxicity on everyone else, did you read the disclaimer at the top? The part that tells you exactly what this writing was going to be about, warning you to move on if you didn't like the topic? And as I have said before these thoughts of mine have never entered the world in any form except for benign thoughts and this forum post here, so I am hardly thrusting any toxicity online or off. [/quote] You have, though. You've blamed the leftists, you've blamed society, you've blamed those "stinky" black people. Whether or not you're verbalizing this shit in the real world is irrelevant, you're taking [B]your[/B] personal prejudices and shortcomings, and projecting them onto the world around you. You must accept responsibility for [I]your[/I] role in your beliefs if you ever actually want to learn from them. [quote]As for hypocrisy, I am not a hypocrite because I am judging people for their actions, not their thoughts.[/quote] No, you're not. You're judging [B]entire races and ethnicities of people[/B] because of the actions of [B]random people among those racial groups.[/B] [I]That[/I] is why your beliefs are inherently irrational. Are you responsible for the things that I do? If I go out tomorrow and fuck over a black guy on a real estate transaction, and then he moves to wherever you are, would it be rational for him to start harboring hateful thoughts [I]towards you[/I] because of it? Is one person responsible for the actions of their entire race? Are a small group of povertous "thugs" in your community representative of every black person in the world? It's [B]absurdly[/B] irrational. It's just misplaced anger and hatred. [quote]I have had no "actions". Thoughts I can give sympathy for. If I were going around beating people up because of their skin color, asking for sympathy for my actions while offering none for others, that would be different. But here I am wanting understanding for my [I]thoughts[/I], which revolves around judging others [I]actions[/I]. And how am I supposed to discuss my beliefs without getting into my "toxic" narratives? (I don't see how they are counter-productive given they add depth and better characterize my views, aiding in your understanding) If they are the explanation and foundation of my thoughts? Without the latter half of my writing, there would be no point to it, it simply wouldn't make sense. So yes. The "truth of my world" is that it is being ruined by certain people, and as a result hate them for it. Am I supposed to be blind to this? To their actions? I do admit accountability, I own my thoughts even though I don't necessarily like them. And what on earth would a therapist achieve?[/QUOTE] A therapist would help you work through this shit. You claim to be internally plagued by hateful thoughts that leave you feeling distressed, and those thoughts are rooted in irrationality and misplaced aggression. Your perspectives only add the very problems you are calling out A therapist can help you examine those feelings and learn how to channel them towards something less destructive. [highlight]As a note: this is not how this thread was meant to be used. There were specific rules in the OP in place for how to participate in this thread. I'll give you one more post to leave a final thought on, but then I will be permabanning this account as it was not made in compliance with the rules of this thread or of the forum, and because we do not abide overt racism on Facepunch. Keep your last comment clean, or I'll simply delete it.[/highlight]
Goddamit, I was interested in how this conversation was going.
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